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Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:32 am |
Well my mom is 86 yrs. old, not Asian, and hardly has a wrinkle on her face. Everyone is amazed at her age. She does nothing to her skin, washes with soap and water (yikes!) never wore sunscreen and never had botox or fillers. Has to be genetics. But my point is this....and I so agree with Dark Moon here....that you can't generalize about these things and say everyone over 40 or 50 has crows feet because it just isn't so. There are many factors that come into play here, genetics being a strong one. Some people age early and some hardly at all. |
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Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:05 am |
All botox does is paralyse the muscle, so whilst it might appear it WORKS - in reality it is only stopping the face from moving - which I'm not sure is a good thing.
Plus I found the article below which I think is worth reading if anyone considers botox.
http://www.webmd.com/skin-beauty/news/20100623/botox-may-affect-ability-feel-emotions
Someone said to me that botox doesn't stop the face from aging, simply expressing and making expressions. So it might be a good thing that you don't hav esufficient money to do your forehead Lucy!
lucyluc wrote: |
trust me botox works. I am 56 and when I use it I dont really have any crows feet even when I smile. Botox is amazing! i wished I had enough money to do my forehead,I dont so I wear bangs.I only use it on my crows feet ,makes a HUGE difference.,very noticeable when you smile.If you try it once you will never want to stop using it its is such an amazing wrinklebuster. |
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Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:26 am |
TheresaMary wrote: |
I didn’t read it that way and agree with your assumption that if I had I too would find it insulting and ridiculous but I thought it was saying that the face helped people express and process their emotions because their faces were able to move more and almost helped the person deal with their emotions, so if their face is botoxed, it prevents that sort of expression from happening and thus the emotions get stifled as such in the face and tissue. By no means did I think it would stop anyone feeling emotions, simply it would stop them expressing their emotions which I’m not convinced is a good thing. |
Keliu wrote: |
This article has been discussed on the Forum before, in fact, I think there's a thread on it. |
The article quite clearly states that having the muscles in your face immobilized dampens your emotions:
Botox injections may do more than smooth your wrinkles and limit your facial expressions. These popular injections may also dampen your ability to feel emotions. The study findings appear in the journal Emotions.
My emotions come from my heart and brain, not from the muscles in my forehead. If this were the case and Botox did impact on emotions, it would be used to treat conditions such as depression or psychosis. Just because I am unable to screw up my forehead up in a ball doesn't mean that I can't feel sad or happy and all the emotions in between.
Sorry, but I get a bit annoyed at all the "doom and gloom" naysayers regarding Botox - I'm sure alcohol has allot more to answer for than Botox. |
_________________ Born 1950. There's a new cream on the market that gets rid of wrinkles - you smear it on the mirror!! |
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Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:57 am |
TheresaMary wrote: |
Sure Keliu I understand your reasoning, and agree with you in that I don't think botox prevents anyone feeling emotions, but I do wonder if it prevents them expressing it as such. Even if you do feel it in your heart, the inability to express that emotion through your face, kind of to me symbolises that unless you have some other way of releasing the emotion its going to get stiffled which I'm not convinced is a good thing.
I think your right though - alcohol might have a lot more damage to do than botox, but then again botox is supposed to be a toxic substance that causes paralyses, and I'm not sure that alochol has that same ability (otherwise I think there would be people injecting it). Its not so much that there is "doom and gloom" naysayers but I think its still relatively early day sre botox and we don't know enough about its possible long term effects just yet. We might never do - with the industry being like it is I suspect. |
The bottom line is that us "mere mortals" who go and get Botoxed do not end up with the Nicole Kidman look - or Hunter Tylo from B&B. Heaven knows how much Botox they get, it must be truck loads and done very frequently. My face is nowhere near frozen so I'm still able to give the required dirty looks to my husband and express joy when he walks out the front door!!
But Botox has been around since the 1800s and is used for a number of medical applications. I think it's safety is probably better known than maybe something like mobile phones. |
_________________ Born 1950. There's a new cream on the market that gets rid of wrinkles - you smear it on the mirror!! |
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