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Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:50 am |
I'm not usually too fussy about chemicals in cosmetics - as long as what I eat & my cleansers & most treatments are fairly "clean", I'll bite the bullet and wear whatever pretty colors match or look right. I'll try to put on a natural lip balm or benign layer of something before the other stuff gets piled on and wing it. I haven't even tried hard enough to seek out suitable mmu... (its just that color matching is such a bitch!)
But when it comes to my waterlines I don't know of any barrier I can apply first to protect my eyes. I just got excited over my first pot of gel eyeliner, and put it on only to find out that was a mistake & that it isn't recommended for waterlines - people just use it anyway. And it was so tough to get off, that I worried. I'm fine with using Kohl pencils (which are meant for that area), but the mac ones I have don't stay very well and my eyes start looking "dirty" as it wears off or collects in the corners.
I looked online for diy kohl/kajal, & the recipes call for burnt (organic) almond soot, or just burnt butter, which sounds kind of wierd. Just because its natural or "herbal", doesn't always mean its better or even safe. Eastern cultures seems to have this thing where they keep repeating that its "good for your eyes", and they even put it on babies, but they don't seem to question which ones, or how they're "good". You also hear a lot about lead in their products these days which is disconcerting.
Anyway, any recommendations? Pink waterlines seem like a pretty vulnerable spot, but I've been googling to death and none seem all too concerned! |
_________________ Olive, normal/oily skin. Using rinse-off ocm, Vit C, Tretinoin since Nov/10, GHK since Feb/12, Niacinamide & glucosamine, alternating, & now skipping nights! Concerns include oiliness, hyperpigmentation from occasional zits, 11's & nasolabial folds. |
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Wed Dec 15, 2010 12:48 pm |
What about applying eyeliner in the rim of the eye? There are many reasons why this is not a good idea. The first is that this kind of application smears in a very short period of time and creates goopy dark specks in the eye. Applying any makeup that is destined to smear in less than an hour or two is not a good idea. Pencil applied along the rim of the eye usually causes the area to become irritated; after all you are putting a foreign substance next to the mucous membrane of your eye. I am equally concerned about the health of the eye area when this technique is used. While there are no studies indicating there are any risks associated with pencil being applied to the rim of the eye, it seems problematic to put cosmetic ingredients (that include coloring agents and preservatives) that close to the eye.
http://www.cosmeticscop.com/makeup-tips-tricks-eyeliner-application-avoiding-mistakes.aspx
Eyeliner: When applying eyeliner, use only a non-wood clenched pencil. Use water-based eyeliner and never apply it inside the lid margin.
http://www.contactlensdocs.com/information_center/cosmetics.htm |
_________________ I'LL SEE YOU ON THE DARKSIDE OF THE MOON.... |
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Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:07 am |
Wow, that's a pretty stern website! I think the person who wrote it should check the internet for the zillion more creative ways people are applying makeup & "breaking the rules" in 2010, lol! Or around the rest of the world for that matter. "Do not extend the eyeliner beyond the corner of the eye (no wings)" "do not use brightly colored pencils or eyeshadows to line the eye.." "Do not make eyeliner the most obvious part of the eye-makeup design".. that's awesome.
Thanks for the warnings though - definitely worth mentioning! Lips & eyes have to be two of the most vulnerable parts of our body and its worth being vigilent about what we use on them.
That said, I'm pretty certain there are a lot of sensible people and responsible makeup artists out there using appropriate products made by manufacturers who are paying attention to the more & more common techniques such as tightlining (nevermind for theatrical makeup etc). So I'd just like to find out what these proper products are. Anyone? |
_________________ Olive, normal/oily skin. Using rinse-off ocm, Vit C, Tretinoin since Nov/10, GHK since Feb/12, Niacinamide & glucosamine, alternating, & now skipping nights! Concerns include oiliness, hyperpigmentation from occasional zits, 11's & nasolabial folds. |
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Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:17 am |
I am not saying I agree with everything on that site, but the liner inside the eye is not even remotely a new thought or process! Women were doing that with liner pencils back in the 50's and earlier!!!
I extend my liner, use brightly colored shadows and liners, neutrals don't look worth a darn on me, but I don't want the ingredients in liners in my eyes!
I also don't like a liner being the main focus look either, hey that's just me! |
_________________ I'LL SEE YOU ON THE DARKSIDE OF THE MOON.... |
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Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:35 am |
Haha, yeah I gathered that, I just thought it was funny.
Actually, at first I did think they were your words - maybe a good idea to use quotes?
But I am really surprised that there isn't more info or discussion online about safe cosmetics for eyes. Though maybe I've missed it.
I've only rarely tightlined/done my inner rim but if I knew there was a product I could trust, I'd definitely do it more. There are millions of young girls using these techniques, and tons of "makeup gurus" online showing them how, so I think its worth addressing! |
_________________ Olive, normal/oily skin. Using rinse-off ocm, Vit C, Tretinoin since Nov/10, GHK since Feb/12, Niacinamide & glucosamine, alternating, & now skipping nights! Concerns include oiliness, hyperpigmentation from occasional zits, 11's & nasolabial folds. |
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