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Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:37 pm  |
 I searched to see if anything has yet been posted about this product by Rodial. Full name is Glamoxy Snake Serum and it "helps reduce facial contractions in 2 minutes." Snazzy press kit. It contains syn-ake, a neuropeptide that "mimics the effects of the Temple Viper's potent venom." An oxygen carrier provide "an immediate plumping effect." There are other actives and no parabens. I'm going to try it and hope I don't get a forked tongue or a rattling rear. I'm intrigued, I must admit. |
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Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:16 am |
| This has been around for a while. If you Google "Snake Venom Anti-wrinkle Cream" you will get allot of hits. I think the bottom line is, nothing beats Botox. |
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Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:03 am |
| Ah-ha, I thought this might be an oldie in new packaging. I'm not Botoxing or filling this year (my resolution) so it might come in handy... |
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Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:58 am |
| Are there any negatives with using this type of ingredient? I know that it is in Isomers and other products but wonder if the relaxing will cause more sagging or other things? |
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Sat Jan 15, 2011 12:31 pm |
| harriet wrote: |
| Are there any negatives with using this type of ingredient? I know that it is in Isomers and other products but wonder if the relaxing will cause more sagging or other things? |
I have used a few of the Isomers products Wrinkle Viper sticks in my mind, but there are others. No negatives from the products, but I know there are those who have reported problems. |
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Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:35 pm |
| Garden of Wisdom do 'viper venom' which is just the liquid in a very un-snazzy bottle which I think really does help - that with frownies and/or safetox and my forehead lines are much improved (sorry, I can't post a link) |
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Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:47 pm |
| puddlelover wrote: |
| Garden of Wisdom do 'viper venom' which is just the liquid in a very un-snazzy bottle which I think really does help - that with frownies and/or safetox and my forehead lines are much improved (sorry, I can't post a link) |
Here is the link to one of many sizes .5 oz.
http://www.gardenofwisdom.com/catalog/item/6991547/7010879.htm |
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Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:04 pm |
This from Paula B's blog:
We had to hiss at every claim this product makes. It is nothing more than a pathetic attempt to prove Glamoxy can mimic the affect of Botox. The entire notion is laughable and completely bogus. Snake venom doesn’t work like Botox in any shape or form. First, given you are applying it with your hands, if Glamoxy actually worked, wouldn’t the muscles in your hand be frozen as well? You would also likely be applying it to areas of your face you don’t want to freeze. The star ingredients listed on this product’s website with names such as Proturon and Ronasphere are trade names for sodium hyaluronate and silica, which are about as special as white bread! These are standard ingredients and completely without any Botox-like properties for skin.
Another overblown ingredient is listed as Fiflow BTX which is supposed to carry oxygen to the skin. The actual ingredients for this are perfluorohexane, perfluoroperhydrophenanthrene, perfluorodecalin, and perfluorodimethylcyclohexane, which obviously are not as impressive sounding as Fiblow BTX. These substances are fluorocarbons that do indeed bring oxygen to lungs in some medical situations, but the effect on skin, if any, is not known. After all, oxygen causes free-radical damage. Not to mention the EPA is considering taking these off the market. All in all, this product gives an entirely new meaning to the term “snake oil.” |
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Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:20 pm |
| DarkMoon wrote: |
| harriet wrote: |
| Are there any negatives with using this type of ingredient? I know that it is in Isomers and other products but wonder if the relaxing will cause more sagging or other things? |
I have used a few of the Isomers products Wrinkle Viper sticks in my mind, but there are others. No negatives from the products, but I know there are those who have reported problems. |
Here is the Isomers Wrinkle Viper ingredient list, it's the peptide that is the active. Is this the same as what PB is referring to?
Isomers Wrinkle Viper Ingredients:
Aqua/Water/Eau, Sodium Hyaluronate, Glycerin, Acetyl Hexapeptide-8, Dipeptide Diaminobutyroyl Benzylamide Diacetate, Phenoxyethanol, Tropolone. |
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Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:46 am |
Antonia, I'm curious in knowing if you've finally tried the product and if you've noticed anything...
I'm trying out a product where the active ingredient is "Dipeptide Diaminobutyroyl Benzylamide Diacetate (4%)", which is the supposed ingredient that mimics the snake venom. Just started applying yesterday so can't say much yet. |
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Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:55 am |
| I tried botox for the first time in October for crow's feet and only now has it started to wear off so I'm going back in a week or two for more. Amazing stuff and a good price considering it lasts so long on me. |
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Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:23 am |
@ATester. I haven't used it. Here's what put me off:
"The actual ingredients for this are perfluorohexane, perfluoroperhydrophenanthrene, perfluorodecalin, and perfluorodimethylcyclohexane, which obviously are not as impressive sounding as Filflow BTX," Begoun explains.
"These substances are fluorocarbons that do indeed bring oxygen to lungs in some medical situations, but the effect on skin, if any, is not known. After all, oxygen causes free-radical damage. Not to mention the (U.S. Environmental Protection Agency) is considering taking these off the market. All in all, this product gives an entirely new meaning to the term 'snake oil.'"
Just wasn't into it for that reason. I still have the brand new product here (50% off  ) |
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Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:15 pm |
| Botox is literally the only safe and effective treatment for wrinkles. If you're going to dish out several hundred dollars for some other anti-wrinkle cream/serum, then you might as well invest it in t a botox treatment that many people have used and are still using because of its effectiveness |
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Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:32 pm |
| SyNake is what's in the Rodial product as well. I'm not sure that cost is always a factor in people choosing a serum over Botox injections. Some people just prefer not to have Botox. I'm currently not having Botox just to see how it goes. So far, so good, with the creams and serum I'm using. |
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Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:07 pm |
| oasisjc wrote: |
| Botox is literally the only safe and effective treatment for wrinkles. If you're going to dish out several hundred dollars for some other anti-wrinkle cream/serum, then you might as well invest it in t a botox treatment that many people have used and are still using because of its effectiveness |
I have in mind having a shot of botox again, already did do two years ago and was pleased with the results of course!...but meanwhile trying out this cream that costs less than 14 euros -which said in dollars would be less, so not actually dishing out several hundred dollars at all!! Guess that is why, as I was curious, and considering using botox again, I thought, oh well it is a cheap cream so may as well try and see. I have already used another cream of the same brand and was surprised as the price is very low and I really liked it. It is a Spanish brand... I do sometimes wonder why on earth I seem to think that products from other countries must surely be better than the ones produced where I live!
So far I've only used it for two days, it is this one:
http://www.berioska.com/producto_eng.php?id=276&gama=1
Antonia, I don't know about the ingredients you've posted as the one I've started trying out just doesn't have those ones mentioned. The active peptide is the one I mentioned in the last post at a 4%. |
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Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:15 pm |
| Whatever's in the Rodial one, it looks nasty. Wouldn't want to put that on my mahogany table let alone my skin. The peptides (like argireline) are mildly effective I find. I used to rely on Botox for strange "worry bumps" on my forehead but I haven't had a shot now in over a year. I've been using products with peptides in them. I can frown and make the bumps, but they aren't as obvious as when I was due for another few shots in the past. |
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Thu Mar 31, 2011 6:09 pm |
I tried the GoW one a few yrs back and it did nothing for me.
Antonia, I too gave up Botox for a few yrs and instead tried to find something in a topical. After hundreds and hundreds of dollars with little to no results I decided my money was better spent on Botox  |
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Thu Mar 31, 2011 6:27 pm |
| tsjmom wrote: |
I tried the GoW one a few yrs back and it did nothing for me.
Antonia, I too gave up Botox for a few yrs and instead tried to find something in a topical. After hundreds and hundreds of dollars with little to no results I decided my money was better spent on Botox |
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Thu Mar 31, 2011 8:20 pm |
| I'm becoming a fan of DermaQuest Peptide Mobilizer. I've been using it for about 2 months and I think I'm seeing some improvement in the crows-feet area. My forehead is very smooth, but I use it there as well, as a preventative. It contains syn-ake and a number of other peptides with very little filler. |
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Fri Apr 01, 2011 4:11 pm |
| Antonia wrote: |
| Whatever's in the Rodial one, it looks nasty. Wouldn't want to put that on my mahogany table let alone my skin. The peptides (like argireline) are mildly effective I find. . |
Yikes. I have a sample pack of this in my collection... It has a snake on the front. Sort of creepy. |
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