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Fri Feb 18, 2011 3:37 pm  |
I am 30 years old and I was wondering if this was normal? I have so much little wrinkles on my cheeks. This is a picture of me when I am smiling normally. Is this what happens when you turn 30? Or is there something wrong with me?
PLEASE HELP!
I eat generally healthy and drink a ton of water daily... Is there a product I can use that will repair my skin so it looks plump once more? Or am I a lost cause?
* I tried to post a picture but am unable to. Any suggestions on what I can do? |
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Fri Feb 18, 2011 4:03 pm |
It may be because you're a new account.
Try typing in a link, like to a flickr account where the photo is.
You won't be able to actually ink to it - because you're a new account, but we can cut and paste the address into our browsers.
edited to add:
I just looked at your other post. It sounds like dehydration lines, but it also sounds like you're getting enough water. SO, I'm not sure. |
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Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:43 pm |
| Would you mind sharing your skin care routine? |
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50 Is definitely NOT nifty!! |
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Sun Feb 20, 2011 3:35 am |
Here's a picture of my wrinkles 
Is this normal for someone in their early 30s?
To view the picture, please type in flickr[dot] com into your browser and then copy & paste the rest of the link
/photos/59712714@N07/5461155548/
so the link to my picture is flickr [dot] com/photos/59712714@N07/5461155548/
Sorry, this is so complicated... Since I am a new member, I'm not allowed to post external links |
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Sun Feb 20, 2011 3:43 am |
My skin care routine is pretty basic.
Morning:
Cetaphil to wash my face
DIY Vitamin C
Lotion (Murad)
Cream (Creme de la Mer)
Sunblock (Shisheido)
Evening:
Oil to wash off sunblock and makeup
Evening primrose oil
Lotion (Murad)
Cream (Cerme de la Mer)
Is there something I'm missing? |
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Sun Feb 20, 2011 6:30 am |
| freckles00 wrote: |
My skin care routine is pretty basic.
Morning:
Cetaphil to wash my face
DIY Vitamin C
Lotion (Murad)
Cream (Creme de la Mer)
Sunblock (Shisheido)
Evening:
Oil to wash off sunblock and makeup
Evening primrose oil
Lotion (Murad)
Cream (Cerme de la Mer)
Is there something I'm missing? |
I don't know much about all these products but my general advice would be: ditch the cetaphil because it will damage your skin over time. It has detergent and other nasties. Replace with dianayvonne.com rosehip cleanser, it has no detergent,perfect ph, and no nasties. I would ditch the creams and lotions too. They may contain damaging and nasty ingredients. I have never heard of the sunblock but the same goes there as well. Vitamin C can be very irritating as well so that may be the problem too. Greg |
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Sun Feb 20, 2011 12:35 pm |
| freckles00 wrote: |
My skin care routine is pretty basic.
Morning:
Cetaphil to wash my face
DIY Vitamin C
Lotion (Murad)
Cream (Creme de la Mer)
Sunblock (Shisheido)
Evening:
Oil to wash off sunblock and makeup
Evening primrose oil
Lotion (Murad)
Cream (Cerme de la Mer)
Is there something I'm missing? |
Looks like you have a pretty good routine going. The only thing I see missing is a vitamin A product. Either something like Retin-a or an over the counter retinol.
I looked at your photo and you don't look like you have tons of wrinkles to me. |
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Sun Feb 20, 2011 8:07 pm |
Hi Freckles,
I agree with Girlie Girl. I would definitely add a retinoid to your routine.
Also, are you using anything for exfoliation i.e. AHA's which would allow your current products better penetration?
Not sure about your creams and lotions... but sounds like you are using some quality products. |
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Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:14 pm |
Maybe your moisturizer is not absorbing well enough?
I know La Mer- it contains petroleum jel in it and usually stuff with petroleum/mineral gel for me anyways it seems to make my skin feel dryer and products do not moisturize enough.
I am trying to use an all natural face cream made with aloe and jojoba and plant oils and that works well for me.
I even tried a body lotion that was fragrance free and organic on my face (it was a very light product- deep steep body lotion), and had no problems with that at all.
I don't know though,this is just a guess.
using things that are more natural is prob better for you anyways.
Burts Bees also has some nice products.
From Burts Bees I had a travel face kit and that was nice, but I also have here the Macadamia oil body balm and have tried using that on my cheeks and it made them very moisturized and not oily. |
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Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:31 pm |
| Hmm it's hard to know what's "normal" and what's not. It's possible that you need a stronger moisturizer. You can try Kiehl's midnight recovery. It's a very concentrated serum containing essential oils to combat wrinkles and dryness. My mom uses and there's barely a wrinkle on her |
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Sun Feb 27, 2011 7:30 am |
Thank you GirlieGirl. Maybe I just need to stop freaking out for a minute and gain some perspective 
I have used Retin-A for a bit not too long ago but it dried out my skin so much and I felt like my fine lines were getting more prominent. Maybe it's time to give it another go? |
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Sun Feb 27, 2011 7:36 am |
Hi Kims
I exfoliate maybe 2-3 times a month. My skin is pretty sensitive I'm afraid if I exfoliate more than that, my skin will react adversely. Do you think I should be exfoliating more frequently?
*sigh* I am spending way more than I want on lotions and creams but I keep thinking, more expensive the product, better results I'll get...
But obviously, that's not the case for my fine lines  |
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Sun Feb 27, 2011 7:49 am |
| freckles00 wrote: |
I have used Retin-A for a bit not too long ago but it dried out my skin so much and I felt like my fine lines were getting more prominent. Maybe it's time to give it another go? |
This is very common when starting retin-a. Your skin may look worse before it gets better. It can be helpful if you start off slow, using every 2-3 days at first. And be sure to start off with the lowest % also. |
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Sun Feb 27, 2011 8:03 am |
| freckles00 wrote: |
Hi Kims
I exfoliate maybe 2-3 times a month. My skin is pretty sensitive I'm afraid if I exfoliate more than that, my skin will react adversely. Do you think I should be exfoliating more frequently?
*sigh* I am spending way more than I want on lotions and creams but I keep thinking, more expensive the product, better results I'll get...
But obviously, that's not the case for my fine lines |
It seems from the picture that you have quite a bit of sun damage? The part you show sees to have quite a bit of hyperpigmentation (brownish spots). Is this the case?
For your routine the things I would suggest are:
a. Stop cleaning your face in the morning with cleansers. You don’t need it. Whatever you use it will at least slightly disrupt your skin. Just wash it with water and a face cloth.
b. You need to start using Retin-A. Especially with the undereye area, you should start VERY slowly… using 0.01% every other day for a couple of months, then 0.01% every day for 4 months and then slowly going up to 0.025%. It will look more wrinkled for a while. You can put it at night when you get home (after you wash your face) and then right before going to bed you can put a moisturizer so your skin doesn’t look so dried up.
It’s hard to tell because you’re smiling, but do you have a noticeable tear trough? If that’s the case, you might consider fillings, which will help with the wrinkling as well.
And of course… the most important thing… no more sun. Apply sunscreen every day (even in cloudy days) and every 2 hours if you’re outside. In fact, if you’re outside, use a hat with a wide brim.
Hope this helps! |
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37, light brown hair, green eyes, very fair skin. Oily T zone, broken capillaries... Current regime: Tretinoin 0.05% every night, hydroquinone 4% twice per day, lachydran every other day, random moisturizers and sunscreen |
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Sun Feb 27, 2011 3:56 pm |
| yup i agree, Retin-A would help and EGF too !! |
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Sun Feb 27, 2011 4:10 pm |
I believe you are smiling in this pic. So of course you will have little wrinkles. Like Josee, I see sun damage/hyperpigmentation, which is common among women of Asian heritage. Sunscreen, sunhat, parasol or umbrella...every single day of your life.
I'd ditch the Cetaphil and the LaMer. Both are overly hyped and not that effective. The Retin-A will help but only, as Josee says, at .01 to begin with.
I also think a peptide cream or serum would help, preventively at least.
I bet the other three quarters of the image show a really pretty lady! |
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Born in 1952. Blonde, very good skin. A few noticeable wrinkles. |
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Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:03 pm |
| Antonia wrote: |
| I'd ditch the Cetaphil and the LaMer. Both are overly hyped and not that effective. |
I couldn't agree more, esp. given how expensive LaMer is and how little proof we have that it actually does something.
Retin-A is the way to go |
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37, light brown hair, green eyes, very fair skin. Oily T zone, broken capillaries... Current regime: Tretinoin 0.05% every night, hydroquinone 4% twice per day, lachydran every other day, random moisturizers and sunscreen |
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Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:53 pm |
Freckles,
If hyperpigmentation is your chief complaint, have you looked into Obagi Nuderm? There are many, many forum members who have used this with great success.
It's not an easy program at all, so please do your research! There are several related threads on EDS you can search.
Also, it's really best to consult a derm or plastic surgeon before embarking on Nuderm. |
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Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:23 pm |
Yes Josee, I have huge tear troughs 
They were always slightly visible, even when I was a child.
But they became very visible after I lost wight on my face
(due to getting older, I suppose...)
I don't want to try fillers yet and was hoping face exercise might alleviate the problem a bit. I started ageless a few days ago and I'm crossing my fingers! |
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Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:29 pm |
queenielau718, what is EGF?
And will using retin-a get RID of the wrinkles?
Or just diminish it?
And I long will it be since I see some visible results?
(So I have a time frame in mind and I won't drive myself nuts if I don't see results in a few weeks)
And yes, no more la mer after I'm done with my current jar. And no more cetaphil as well! I'll just use water in the morning
Thank you Antonia for your very kind comment
 Can you tell me a little bit more about the serum you're recommending? and peptide cream is copper peptide, right? |
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Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:34 pm |
I used to have a lot of sun damage (even more than what you see in the picture) so I had a round of fraxel laser treatment done. I was anxious to get rid of my wrinkles as well as improve my very noticeably sun damaged skin.
Fraxel left me with blotches of hyperpigmentation every where
But even more than the hyperpigmentation, I'm bothered by the fine wrinkles... I regret my childhood where I spent countless hours out in the sun without sunblock. But I do religiously wear it now
I don't think my face is strong enough to go through obagi yet. Maybe once it recovers and becomes stronger, I can try... |
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Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:43 pm |
Hi Freckles...NO! Please not copper peptide. It may work for some but I've seen people develop some looseness and lines as a result of using this. I'm thinking more of Matrixyl or a combination of peptides with Matrixyl. I'm using Nuvocare's Skin-Minus (I just reviewed it.) It's pretty packed with actives yet seems to be very gentle on the skin.
If your wrinkles are as teeny weeny as they appear in your photo, then the Retin-A, over time and at gradually increased strength, could indeed get rid of them. If the wrinkles are deeper though, at best, it will lessen (soften) them. I would honestly give it six months to a year as anything that truly increases collagen takes time to do so.
Hope that helps.
| freckles00 wrote: |
queenielau718, what is EGF?
And will using retin-a get RID of the wrinkles?
Or just diminish it?
And I long will it be since I see some visible results?
(So I have a time frame in mind and I won't drive myself nuts if I don't see results in a few weeks)
And yes, no more la mer after I'm done with my current jar. And no more cetaphil as well! I'll just use water in the morning
Thank you Antonia for your very kind comment
Can you tell me a little bit more about the serum you're recommending? and peptide cream is copper peptide, right? |
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Born in 1952. Blonde, very good skin. A few noticeable wrinkles. |
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Wed Mar 02, 2011 10:22 am |
Hahha, thanks antonia for clarifying the peptide question
I just automatically assumed cooper peptide since I hear people mention it a lot on EDS.
I'll definitely check out your review of Nuvocare's Skin-Minu.
I just started retin-a last night and it feels REALLY GOOD to know that I'm doing something that will get rid of my fine lines eventually, you know, like knowing that I'm headed in the right direction
Thank you so much for everyone's advice!!!!!!!!!! |
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Wed Mar 02, 2011 11:08 am |
| Copper peptide works very well for some and not for others. A reader of mine just had a really nasty experience after using it, in the form of deep vertical lines. She stopped and they are now beginning to go away. Other people swear by it. That said, I am glad you are starting with Retin-A. Even at a lower strength, I would still only apply every 2-3 days to begin with just to determine how your skin will react. Also, be sure never to forget your sunscreen as it does cause photosensitivity. |
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