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KiDemko
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Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:48 am      Reply with quote
Hello loves, I'm going to introduce myself being completely straight-forward. My dream is to begin a very successful ORGANIC beauty business! Since I'm only 16, I'm starting from my own house. Right now I have a few simple questions that you guys may be able to answer for me to help me start out?

First off .. I'd like to know how I can mix two completely different ingredients together to make a thorough liquid. For example, the other night I tried experimenting with a cleanser that included olive oil, green tea & honey. However when I poured all of the ingredients together in a bowl, the honey kind of sunk to the bottom and sat there, it didn't blend very well. How can I get ingredients that typically won't mix well, to mix? Should I use the stove & mix it in a cooking pot so that they actually blend in together?

Second question! Do you guys know of any good NATURAL preservatives I can use in products? I've heard of Germaben II-e and I was recommended it but it seems to contain parabens. /o:
So, any preservative ingredients I can purchase to add in to my products would be nice.

Sorrry for the lengthy post! I'll be on this site daily, I am willing to do ANYTHING to pursue this dream. Thank you. Smile<3
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Fri Feb 25, 2011 5:18 pm      Reply with quote
Maybe you could try purchasing or getting some books from the library on this topic.
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Sat Feb 26, 2011 6:20 pm      Reply with quote
KiDemko wrote:
Hello loves, I'm going to introduce myself being completely straight-forward. My dream is to begin a very successful ORGANIC beauty business! Since I'm only 16, I'm starting from my own house. Right now I have a few simple questions that you guys may be able to answer for me to help me start out?

First off .. I'd like to know how I can mix two completely different ingredients together to make a thorough liquid. For example, the other night I tried experimenting with a cleanser that included olive oil, green tea & honey. However when I poured all of the ingredients together in a bowl, the honey kind of sunk to the bottom and sat there, it didn't blend very well. How can I get ingredients that typically won't mix well, to mix? Should I use the stove & mix it in a cooking pot so that they actually blend in together?

Second question! Do you guys know of any good NATURAL preservatives I can use in products? I've heard of Germaben II-e and I was recommended it but it seems to contain parabens. /o:
So, any preservative ingredients I can purchase to add in to my products would be nice.

Sorrry for the lengthy post! I'll be on this site daily, I am willing to do ANYTHING to pursue this dream. Thank you. Smile<3


The best way to get oil and non-oils to mix is to use an emulsifier. I use polysorbate 80. It only takes a small amount (~1% of the total mixture). You add the polysorbate to the oil first and then add the other ingredients. For the honey, you might want to heat it slightly. I'm not sure if polysorbate qualifies as organic - you may have to research that. Lecithin is another alternative, however, I've heard it's difficult to work with.

There are some natural preservatives listed here: http://www.makingcosmetics.com/Preservatives-c34/
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Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:24 am      Reply with quote
Get yourself trained from a reputed institution for preparing beauty products. You can’t experiment with anyone’s skin or hair. So it is better to know what and how to do before venturing into any business.
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Sat Mar 05, 2011 9:58 pm      Reply with quote
Research and education is what you need. The basics like...

Oil and water don't mix so you need an emulsifier.

Organic products still need preservatives and in-organic ingredients in order to have a shelf life and perform. If you take a look at organic skin care lines you will discover that their products are very similar ingredient-wise to most cosmetics. The reason is that food-stuffs on their own don't generally make very usable products or perform well unless they are fresh mixed minutes before using them.

A lot of chemical sounding ingredients are also derived from natural sources through fermentation and other processes. So not all cosmetic ingredients are chemical concoctions dangerous to the skin. There is a lot of debate about Organic lines due to the issues above.

What ingredients do what on the skin and how they behave in formulations.

To be honest I've been formulating my own skin care for over 2yrs and only really now have a usable product that works and some idea of which ingredients do what on the skin. I would recommend that at a minimum you do a beauty therapy qualification so you have a basic understanding of skin structure, care and product use. From there you will find formulating products a more scientific endeavour.

Many DIY suppliers also run courses in formulating skin care. It's probably a good investment to get you started. New Directions run such courses.

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Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:42 am      Reply with quote
Where can you even find ingredients like polysorbate 80?
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Wed Mar 16, 2011 10:17 am      Reply with quote
Perhaps you can get a cosmetics dictionary, and get ingredients from products from existing organic lines. With the dictionary, you can research what those lines use for preservatives and emulsifiers.
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Wed Mar 16, 2011 6:30 pm      Reply with quote
oasisjc wrote:
Where can you even find ingredients like polysorbate 80?


Here are a few places that carry polysorbate:

Nature's Gift: http://www.naturesgift.com/carrier_oils/polysorbate20.htm

Bulk Actives: http://www.bulkactives.com/polysorbate80.htm

Lotioncrafter: http://www.lotioncrafter.com/search.php?mode=search&page=1
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