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Sat Apr 09, 2011 7:29 am |
I was wondering what you all use as sun screen, or do you make your own. I am just beginning with DIY and would not like to ruin my move to less chemicals by using a sun screen packed with them.
At the moment I use Nivea factor 50 for face and factor 30 elsewhere. |
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Sat Apr 09, 2011 7:44 am |
No, do NOT make your own sunscreen. It is way too complex for any typical DIY and it is most likely unsafe too. |
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Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:18 am |
There are many recipes here, if you are willing to give it a go.
http://www.makingcosmetics.com/recipes-6.html
Sunscreens
Light Sunscreen Cream-Gel SPF 15-18
Age Protecting Sunscreen Cream with Collagen Protection, SPF 14-16
Sunscreen Lotion (o/w) with Aloe Vera, SPF 12-19
Water-Resistant Sunscreen Cream (w/o) SPF 25-32
Sprayable Sunscreen Lotion (o/w) for Pump Sprays, SPF 17-22
Face Moisturizer with Proteins & Sun Protection (o/w), SPF 12-16
Protecting Sunscreen with Titanium Dioxide Dispersion (o/w) SPF 18-24
Cream-Gel Sunscreen with Watermelon Extract (UVA & UVB Protection)
Sunset Skin Treatment (o/w) |
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Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:24 am |
Yes, I make my own. It works like a charm.
A knock off of Devita/MVO with a higher ZnO content.
Devita SPF 30:
ACTIVE INGREDIENT: Micronized Zinc oxide 19%.
INACTIVE INGREDIENTS: Aloe barbadensis (organic aloe vera gel), Purified Water (aqua), Capric/caprylic triglycerides (derived from coconut oil), Glycerin (vegetable), Hyaluronic acid (vegan source), Glyceryl stearate SE (derived from vegetable oil), Stearic acid, Lecithin phospholipid, Tocopherol (vitamin E), Allantoin, Vitis vinifera (grape) seed extract. Ingredient labeling adheres to international INCI standards.
I make mine a bit over 19%....just to be on the safe side. |
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Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:49 am |
DragoN wrote: |
Yes, I make my own. It works like a charm.
A knock off of Devita/MVO with a higher ZnO content.
Devita SPF 30:
ACTIVE INGREDIENT: Micronized Zinc oxide 19%.
INACTIVE INGREDIENTS: Aloe barbadensis (organic aloe vera gel), Purified Water (aqua), Capric/caprylic triglycerides (derived from coconut oil), Glycerin (vegetable), Hyaluronic acid (vegan source), Glyceryl stearate SE (derived from vegetable oil), Stearic acid,
Lecithin phospholipid, Tocopherol (vitamin E), Allantoin, Vitis vinifera (grape) seed extract. Ingredient labeling adheres to international INCI standards.
I make mine a bit over 19%....just to be on the safe side. |
Now if only we could convince the awesome DragoN to post that recipe there would be a number of happy DIY members here. I posted the link to show there are recipes out there, I haven't tried to DIY a sunscreen yet, but in the Florida sun I would love to! |
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Sat Apr 09, 2011 1:28 pm |
Perhaps if we all send her photos of our poor sun damaged skin she would take pity on us and post the recipe...... x |
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Sat Apr 09, 2011 2:22 pm |
Starbright wrote: |
Perhaps if we all send her photos of our poor sun damaged skin she would take pity on us and post the recipe...... x |
Good plan Starbright, that might just inspire her to take pity on us!!! |
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Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:15 pm |
oy vey...thank you DarkMoon...okies...this what I make:
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I haven't tried to DIY a sunscreen yet, but in the Florida sun I would love to! Smile |
You might like this one. I really like it. It feels nice...stays put all day. 99% natural [ more or less 99% as the poly 80 isn't 'natural' but is necessary]
Patience is required for this particular recipe and a mini blender, or it will not work out.
Ingredients:
1. Avocado oil 27.0 grams[highly emollient oil]
2. Sea Emollient 27.0 grams
3. H20 18.0 grams
4. Vit E 1.8 grams
5. Hyaluronic acid 1% serum 6.3 grams
6. Polysorbate 80 9.0 grams
7. Grapeseed extract/ or other ~ 0.9 but less is better to start. Careful as may change the color. Grapeseed extract at that amount would be terrible.
8. ZnO ~ 100nm-200nm particle 22.5 grams
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Beakers X 3 [ or bowls or whatever works for you ]
The measurements are not forgiving,unless you are lowering your ZnO content, which is not recommended for obvious reasons.
1. Oil + polysorbate 80 + Vit E = Mix well.
2. Sea Emollient + HA= Mix well, very very well, or will do funny things.
3. ZnO + grapeseed extract + H20 = Mix beyond well, and don't stop, it may appear to be mixed,but is not, patience. Keep mixing.
4. Then, slowly pour #1 into #2, while mixing at the same time with the blender, hand stirring will not work. Beat for quite a while, make sure to incorporate all. Then, pour #2 back into #1 and beat again for a long spell. This will be very thick and creamy already. Don't trust it. Keep beating it. Till it is all creamy and smooth, could be a while.
5. Scrape the edges thoroughly of beaker #2 as a great deal will be hanging on the sides.
6. Before you beat #3 into the SE + Oil mixture, blend #3 the ZnO H20 again really well,then,slowly incorporate the ZnO paste into what is now beaker #1. May have to use a scraper to get the ZnO into the beaker,keep blending
7. You should have a creamy off white SS at this point. If you feel the burning urge to add GSE or EO's,now's the time. Sea emollient already has a preservative, so it is a bit of overkill,your call. ZnO is already inherently not conducive to growths.
The SS is almost a gel like consistency,but not quite, goes on easily, but spread quickly as it soaks in very fast. Dries matte.
Done.
Sterilize everything you use first...keep fingers out of the mix.
You can get fancy with your extracts for color enhancement, less than you think you might need.
There is not a lot of room for "play' in there, as it requires "body" to hold the ZnO. SKB can be used...but..it's not as nice. Personal preference. The HA, can play a tad there with splitting it with glycerin or knocking it out and subbing the weight in Sea emollient.
That's enough for 100 mls, lasts me just over a month. My face doesn't sting and I don't get vampire eyes from the chemical that I did in chemical SS's. And...it's nice for keeping acne at bay as well.
It's easy to make...But...the blending is the key to it all. |
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Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:27 pm |
THANK YOU MS. AWESOME DRAGON! THANK YOU!
I have many of the goodies here already, but know exactly where I will be purchasing the rest, including my scale. Accurate measurements finally.
BOWS To our sweet DragoN. |
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Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:56 pm |
Goodness!!
I just hope it works for you Darkmoon. It can be so pickity. I have buggered up a few batches by impatience ...still usable..but not exactly lovely.
A half batch is easier ... won't bog the blender as badly, depending on what kind of power tools you have that is.
If it doesn't work out...I can hear the cursing!! Let me know if you try it what you think of it.
may it work for you the first time! |
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Sat Apr 09, 2011 5:39 pm |
DragoN wrote: |
Goodness!!
I just hope it works for you Darkmoon. It can be so pickity. I have buggered up a few batches by impatience ...still usable..but not exactly lovely.
A half batch is easier ... won't bog the blender as badly, depending on what kind of power tools you have that is.
If it doesn't work out...I can hear the cursing!! Let me know if you try it what you think of it.
may it work for you the first time! |
No cursing here too many major issues life throws our way to get all worked up over a botched recipe!
I have to order my scale and a few things from:
http://stores.skinessentialactives.com/StoreFront.bok
As soon as I get that I will certainly try out your recipe and let you know what I think.
Your recipes are inspiring and so well thought out.
Thanks again Dear DragoN! |
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Sun Apr 10, 2011 2:14 pm |
Thank you DragoN for posting that. It looks amazing, but I might wait until I have a bit more experience before trying it. I would hate to become a lobster because I messed it up.
I will try it soom though. Thanks again |
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Tue Apr 12, 2011 4:46 am |
I dont bother since i can buy one locally that uses only zinc and titanium dioxide (no chemical blockers) and works well for me. Its very cheap so cant be bothered adding yet another item to my DIY list. My time is precious so I only make what I cant buy. |
_________________ 40, fine porcelain skin, tendency to pigmentation no other issues. Rosehip oil is the cornerstone of my skin care. |
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Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:12 pm |
Starbright, you wouldn't turn into a lobster...but it might be a bit chunky...but no burning.
It's really easy to make. Just need the right tools for the job. Under an hour, you can have your own tailor made SS.
The physical sunblocks we can buy have the advantage in that they are spun around for days and hours at a time as part of the emulsification process. DIY, we don't have that option...so we have to figure out another way to create the same effect. |
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Leman
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Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:24 am |
Hi DragoN,
Thanks for the recipe. I was wondering If I could substitute the Zinc Oxide with Titanium Dioxide? And If I can, do you recommend to use same percentage as zinc oxide?
Also we are not using an emulsifier and not heating oil/water phases, I wonder if the product separates over time?
Many thanks
Leman |
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Tue Jun 28, 2011 6:56 am |
Leman,
I would not use TiO2...at all, personally. ZnO is the better and safer choice.
The emulsifier in there is Polysorbate 80...I have not had one separate when using that. Using lecithin...there is a bit more of a separation problem, again remedied by adding a bit of poly 80 to the mix. A gentle shake before using and all is well.
Also the anhydrous mix is quite nice as well. May be a bit greasy for some people and depends on your climate and skin type.
*n.b. the type of ZnO makes a massive difference in your SS. Coated vs uncoated and particle size. Currently I have a very nice ZnO particle which is basically invisible. |
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Tue Jun 28, 2011 7:41 am |
Leman wrote: |
Hi DragoN,
Thanks for the recipe. I was wondering If I could substitute the Zinc Oxide with Titanium Dioxide? And If I can, do you recommend to use same percentage as zinc oxide?
Also we are not using an emulsifier and not heating oil/water phases, I wonder if the product separates over time?
Many thanks
Leman |
Titanium oxide doesn't have a broad enough UV coverage compared to zinc oxide, so I'd stick with ZO |
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Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:16 pm |
WOW! I am very very impressed. However, I will not be doing this myself because I don't trust myself enough and sunscreen is not something I'm willing to take chances on. Besides, DIY does require investment, even if it pays off later on. Also anything I'll make won't be elegant and easy to apply as the stuff I'm buying... And how do you then package the goo? I like my sunscreen best in medium size flexible squeeze tubes. Well if you feel like sending me a sample of your sunscreen creation, I'll certainly be happy to review it!
Ooooh- if you've made sunscreen, have you considered making lip balm with zinc oxide? (I'm using burnout's lip balms, consider trying to copy that) However what would be truly awesome is if someone could make a *tinted* lip balm with zinc oxide. So the tint would take care of any whiteness caused by the zinc. I have considered trying to DIY such a product but I'm not brave enough. |
_________________ 24 yrs old. favorite sunscreen right now: Burnout [now 35] |
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Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:35 am |
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I don't trust myself enough and sunscreen is not something I'm willing to take chances on. |
And I don't trust companies to put enough in...people are so different.
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I like my sunscreen best in medium size flexible squeeze tubes. Well if you feel like sending me a sample of your sunscreen creation, I'll certainly be happy to review it! |
That's why you get to make it yourself and can complain about the packaging to yourself if you don't like it.
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if you've made sunscreen, have you considered making lip balm with zinc oxide? |
Already been done...but I don't work with make up pigments, can put lipstick over top just as easily, |
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Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:01 am |
DragoN wrote: |
Already been done...but I don't work with make up pigments, can put lipstick over top just as easily, |
That's what I do now too- I layer a lip gloss from 100% pure over the burnout lip balm. It's ok, but it would be really really awesome if someone made a tinted lip balm with zinc oxide (there are products out there with 7% zinc oxide, but that's not enough zinc)
I *think* that the company most likely to make this product is 100% pure, or at least I hope so. I contacted them about it, and it seemed like I wasn't ignored. |
_________________ 24 yrs old. favorite sunscreen right now: Burnout [now 35] |
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Thu Jul 14, 2011 6:35 pm |
I make mineral cosmetics, mostly gloss, blush, eyeliner and night treatments.
Sunforgettable lists their ingredients as 12% zinc oxide and 12% titanium dioxide, which I already have. It seems easy enough to make a mineral sunscreen. The cheapest I have found is a refill for $30 and free shipping. I could make this for $3.
Colorescience Sunforgettable SPF 30 Brush contains: Active Micronized Titanium Dioxide( 12%), Micronized Zinc Oxide (12%). Other ingredients: Mica, Dimethicone/vinyldimethicone Crosspolymer, Iron Oxide, Titanium Dioxide, Corallina Officinalis.
http://www.coolibar.com/05176.html |
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Thu Jul 14, 2011 10:01 pm |
Allot of natural ingredients provide some (very little) suin protection, so you need to look for inc oxide and other "chemicals" to DIY with. I prefer a very strong sunscreen and love UNT Sunscreen 45+ could hardly imagine whipping a product comparable to that up but would be open to ideas. |
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Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:00 am |
seems hard to make it! |
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samueljameS
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Wed Aug 24, 2011 10:31 pm |
Isn't it too risky to make your own sunscreen? |
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Thu Aug 25, 2011 2:21 am |
samueljameS wrote: |
Isn't it too risky to make your own sunscreen? |
Yes, but then again, there are countless "natural" brands who have much stranger formulas where I seriously doubt that those sunscreens are particularly effective or skin friendly. The formula DragoN provides looks safe enough, even more so if coated zinc is used, then zinc won't clump as much and distribution should be even on skin. It is also stressed that mixing is important. Accounts for good particle dispersion, something that often lacks in other DIY sunscreen formulas. It is hardware dependent in this case, the better the mixer, the better it will work.
It's just my opinion based on the data available, I have not made it and done comparisons in lab, but I believe it would work just fine. |
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