RAVE-Clarins UV Plus HP Day Screen SPF 40 - New Formula
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free skin care · Sun May 01, 2011 1:20 pm

DarkMoon wrote:

athena123 wrote:

rileygirl wrote:

Thanks for the review, Athena. I have been eyeballing this one. Do you happen to have the ingredients?

Hi rileygirl, Thanks to Darkmoon for posting the ingredients. Apparently the new ingredient is canteloupe melon extract. I have no idea what this is supposed to do and haven't used it long enough to attest to any long-term skincare benefits other than the obvious protection from UV.

This formula is priced at $38 USD for 1.7 oz compared to the old formula at $42 USD for 1 oz. Ingredients in the old formula. Regardless of which formula, the finish is the most elegant sunscreen I've ever had the pleasure of using.

oz:
Cyclopentasiloxane, Aqua, Aluminum Starch Octenylsuccinate, Polyglyceryl-3 Polydimethylsiloxyethyl Dimethicone, Alcohol, Aluminum Hydroxide, Stearic Acid, Sodium Chloride, PEG/PPG-18/18 Dimethicone, PEG/PPG-20/15 Dimethicone, Tocopheryl Acetate, Fragrance, Disodium EDTA, Butylene Glycol, Glycerin, Pentylene Glycol, Biosaccharide Gum-4, Thermus Thermophillus Ferment, Lapsana Communis Flower/Leaf/Stem Extract, Camellia Sinensis Leaf Extract, Rhodiola Rosea Root Extract, Phenoxyethanol, Potassium Sorbate, Sodium Lauryl Sulfate.

Here from Clarens site is what they say about the melon extract:

- Cantaloupe Melon Extract - contains an exceptional concentration of super oxide dismutase, an antioxidative enzyme that neutralizes the harmful effects of free radicals on skin.

http://es.clarins.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/beauty-products_the-essentials_uv-plus-hp-day-screen-spf-40_C010410013_10051_10204_-1_112817_40073_10315

Wonder if this is the magic melon from Cindy Crawford's line? I think SSC also has a melon ingredient.

free skin care · Sun May 01, 2011 1:34 pm

lipglossdoll wrote:

I really love Clarins makeup products, have not tried much of their skin care line though. May have to try this. Very Happy

I was intrigued by their mousse foundation --- which makeup products do you like? I'd love to hear more!

free skin care · Sun May 01, 2011 1:38 pm

RussianSunshine wrote:

riley, I told you about this sunscreen long time ago Smile

But I was too lazy to write a proper review. Thank you, athena123!

I also use it every time I apply CPs in the morning.

RussianSunshine, that was probably why I had my eye on this! Very Happy

How is the protective factor for you?

Athena, I live in Florida and it is already hot!!

free skin care · Sun May 01, 2011 1:47 pm

Elvisshops wrote:

DarkMoon wrote:

athena123 wrote:

rileygirl wrote:

Thanks for the review, Athena. I have been eyeballing this one. Do you happen to have the ingredients?

Hi rileygirl, Thanks to Darkmoon for posting the ingredients. Apparently the new ingredient is canteloupe melon extract. I have no idea what this is supposed to do and haven't used it long enough to attest to any long-term skincare benefits other than the obvious protection from UV.

This formula is priced at $38 USD for 1.7 oz compared to the old formula at $42 USD for 1 oz. Ingredients in the old formula. Regardless of which formula, the finish is the most elegant sunscreen I've ever had the pleasure of using.

oz:
Cyclopentasiloxane, Aqua, Aluminum Starch Octenylsuccinate, Polyglyceryl-3 Polydimethylsiloxyethyl Dimethicone, Alcohol, Aluminum Hydroxide, Stearic Acid, Sodium Chloride, PEG/PPG-18/18 Dimethicone, PEG/PPG-20/15 Dimethicone, Tocopheryl Acetate, Fragrance, Disodium EDTA, Butylene Glycol, Glycerin, Pentylene Glycol, Biosaccharide Gum-4, Thermus Thermophillus Ferment, Lapsana Communis Flower/Leaf/Stem Extract, Camellia Sinensis Leaf Extract, Rhodiola Rosea Root Extract, Phenoxyethanol, Potassium Sorbate, Sodium Lauryl Sulfate.

Here from Clarens site is what they say about the melon extract:

- Cantaloupe Melon Extract - contains an exceptional concentration of super oxide dismutase, an antioxidative enzyme that neutralizes the harmful effects of free radicals on skin.

http://es.clarins.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/beauty-products_the-essentials_uv-plus-hp-day-screen-spf-40_C010410013_10051_10204_-1_112817_40073_10315

Wonder if this is the magic melon from Cindy Crawford's line? I think SSC also has a melon ingredient.

Looks like Darkmoon is on the right track. According to Clarins website, Cantaloupe Melon Extract contains an exceptional concentration of super oxide dismutase.

According to the Meaningful Beauty website, the unique ingredient supporting this line is a rare melon containing a powerful super-antioxidant called superoxide dismutase (SOD).

I consulted the Wiki gods to find out a little more. Much of it is greek to me, as I am neither chemist/biologist or scientist, but it does support the theory of this element in the role of super antioxidant. If you scroll to the bottom of this article, however, the application in cosmetics is still rather tentative.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superoxide_dismutase

free skin care · Sun May 01, 2011 1:48 pm

rileygirl wrote:

RussianSunshine, that was probably why I had my eye on this! Very Happy

How is the protective factor for you?
Athena, I live in Florida and it is already hot!!

I went to Cuba last December and was only using this sunscreen, never had a red face, only a barely noticeable tan by the end of the vacation. I also once spent 4 hours walking in the city in the sun without re-applying the sunscreen, and my face was totally fine.

free skin care · Sun May 01, 2011 1:51 pm

RussianSunshine wrote:

rileygirl wrote:

RussianSunshine, that was probably why I had my eye on this! Very Happy

How is the protective factor for you?
Athena, I live in Florida and it is already hot!!

I went to Cuba last December and was only using this sunscreen, never had a red face, only a barely noticeable tan by the end of the vacation. I also once spent 4 hours walking in the city in the sun without re-applying the sunscreen, and my face was totally fine.

Wow! If this new formula is as effective as the old formula, this will be a winner for sure! I'm thinking I should follow Rileygirl's lead and stockpile before it occurs to them to raise the price!

free skin care · Sun May 01, 2011 2:37 pm

RussianSunshine wrote:

I went to Cuba last December and was only using this sunscreen, never had a red face, only a barely noticeable tan by the end of the vacation. I also once spent 4 hours walking in the city in the sun without re-applying the sunscreen, and my face was totally fine.

Thanks for sharing that, RussianSunshine. I am happy to hear it worked well for you. I am hoping I get the same protection!

free skin care · Sat May 07, 2011 12:41 pm

I feel a little confused about the spf factor of sunscreens - espec Clarins ones.
While for a spf 30 sunscreen in many other brands the amnt of active is in the double digits eg 13-18% zinc or same % but 50/50 zinc and titanium, Clarins has only put in under 10% titanium dioxide.. It is the same thing w their eye sunscreen - that is labelled 30+ but the amnt of titanium dioxide is even less than they have put in this one!?
Anybody know how this could be and whether they are sure Clarins sunscreen is definitely safe?

free skin care · Fri May 13, 2011 9:44 am

Another concern is that it is not really a broad-spectrum sunblock Sad

So one will have to apply a zinc-based make-up over it.

free skin care · Fri May 13, 2011 2:01 pm

Actually, I am wrong. It protects skin from both UVA and UVB radiation.

RussianSunshine wrote:

Another concern is that it is not really a broad-spectrum sunblock Sad

So one will have to apply a zinc-based make-up over it.

free skin care · Fri May 13, 2011 2:21 pm

RussianSunshine wrote:

Actually, I am wrong. It protects skin from both UVA and UVB radiation.

RussianSunshine wrote:

Another concern is that it is not really a broad-spectrum sunblock Sad

So one will have to apply a zinc-based make-up over it.

Doesn't the melon extract have sun protection attributes also (like Vitamin C)? I know it isn't enough on it's own, but had the impression it is supposed to add to the protection from suns rays?

free skin care · Sat May 14, 2011 10:23 am

DarkMoon, I never count Vit C and other antioxidants as protective factors. If they add to protection, I am not going to ever feel it Very Happy

DarkMoon wrote:

RussianSunshine wrote:

Actually, I am wrong. It protects skin from both UVA and UVB radiation.

RussianSunshine wrote:

Another concern is that it is not really a broad-spectrum sunblock Sad

So one will have to apply a zinc-based make-up over it.

Doesn't the melon extract have sun protection attributes also (like Vitamin C)? I know it isn't enough on it's own, but had the impression it is supposed to add to the protection from suns rays?

free skin care · Sat May 14, 2011 4:54 pm

Yeah I alawys look at antioxidants as an added bonus, but never consider it to be part of the protection

free skin care · Fri Jun 03, 2011 11:53 am

I have this sunscreen also and have the same thought about only having under 10% titanium dioxide. I am using it now, but may have to switch brands. I need 100% coverage.

Fri Jun 03, 2011 8:45 pm

I thought this was interesting regarding the Thermus Thermophilus Ferment Extract antoxidant that is included:

Thermus Thermophilus Ferment Extract

particularly effective at mopping up free radicals produced by UV exposure

6 months of use prevented 5 years of aging

powerful antioxidant activated by heat and light

http://www.rhondaallison.com/marineoligoelements.html

free skin care · Sat Jun 04, 2011 4:31 am

Skincare wrote:

I have this sunscreen also and have the same thought about only having under 10% titanium dioxide. I am using it now, but may have to switch brands. I need 100% coverage.

Skincare, I top it off either with a powder or foundation with zinc oxide.

free skin care · Sat Jun 04, 2011 5:33 am

RussianSunshine wrote:

Skincare wrote:

I have this sunscreen also and have the same thought about only having under 10% titanium dioxide. I am using it now, but may have to switch brands. I need 100% coverage.

Skincare, I top it off either with a powder or foundation with zinc oxide.

I don't normally wear powder & foundation, so that is a problem. I find that it sits on my face and hide the luminous natural look I get from my skin when well maintained.

I really love the texture of this brand. I love the fact that you can layer and layer without any nasty build up. I just want very good protection for my pale skin tone. I loved Chanel, but that is very pricey. One small bottle lasted me two weeks!

free skin care · Sat Jun 04, 2011 7:22 am

Skincare wrote:

I don't normally wear powder & foundation

I really love the texture of this brand. I love the fact that you can layer and layer without any nasty build up. I just want very good protection for my pale skin tone.

Skincare, I don't wear foundation or powder either and I am only using the Clarins for protection. So far, so good. I haven't tried it being out in the sun for hours, but for daily use with frequent but short sun exposure, I find that it gives great protection. My face is noticeably whiter than the rest of my body, so I am not tanning through with the Clarins.

free skin care · Sat Jun 04, 2011 7:32 am

rileygirl wrote:

Skincare wrote:

I don't normally wear powder & foundation

I really love the texture of this brand. I love the fact that you can layer and layer without any nasty build up. I just want very good protection for my pale skin tone.

Skincare, I don't wear foundation or powder either and I am only using the Clarins for protection. So far, so good. I haven't tried it being out in the sun for hours, but for daily use with frequent but short sun exposure, I find that it gives great protection. My face is noticeably whiter than the rest of my body, so I am not tanning through with the Clarins.

rileygirl, I am so happy that you didn't tan with Clarins. I like to hear that. I don't mind if sunscreen make my skin appear a bit whiter. As long as I don't look sick pale. Which type of powder should I be looking at?

free skin care · Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:33 am

rileygirl wrote:

Skincare, I don't wear foundation or powder either and I am only using the Clarins for protection. So far, so good. I haven't tried it being out in the sun for hours, but for daily use with frequent but short sun exposure, I find that it gives great protection. My face is noticeably whiter than the rest of my body, so I am not tanning through with the Clarins.

rileygirl, what about Orb? Do you still use it? As far as I remember, titanium oxide does not protect well against long UVA rays, hence zinc oxide is necessary for optimum UVA protection.

free skin care · Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:40 am

Skincare wrote:

Which type of powder should I be looking at?

I like Colorscience powders:

http://www.essentialdayspa.com/colorescience-sunforgetta-p_12445.htm

and

http://www.essentialdayspa.com/colorescience-sunforgettb-p_9304.htm

The latter is more convenient IMHO.

I have pale skin and use Almost clear. It is very natural-looking. I don't normally use powders but this one provides a matte finish that’s not powdery or dry. Completely invisible.

free skin care · Thu Jun 09, 2011 5:55 am

RussianSunshine wrote:

rileygirl, what about Orb? Do you still use it? As far as I remember, titanium oxide does not protect well against long UVA rays, hence zinc oxide is necessary for optimum UVA protection.

I still love the Orb, but honestly I have not used anything with the Clarins. I just apply the 1/4 tsp, which is a lot of product but I do it in layers. I have not had any freckling or tanning, but I also have not tested the Clarins in hours of the sun, just my normal daily exposure.

free skin care · Sun Jun 12, 2011 6:45 am

Hi Skincare.

I am tempted to try the Clarins when I finish my Chanel sunscreen. Can you tell me what you used under the Chanel? I find it is a bit white when I use it over the Chanel daycream which has spf and better when I use it over the hydrating and pore minimizing serums. Do you think the Clarins is better?

thanks. Harriet

free skin care · Sun Jun 12, 2011 8:32 am

I don't find the Chanel sunscreen to be too white on me. I am very pale and the only colour I get is from my freckles, which is more noticeable in the summer. For me, Chanel is perfect, but I am not impressed with the price. One tiny bottle last me one week, almost two weeks!

I use Moisteral or Embryolisse lotion on my face. This is the order of my skin care products:
after washing my face with Clarisonic, I use:
Vivier vitamin C
Cellcosmet eye cream
Embryolisse
sunscreen

Then I put on my eye makeup, sometimes concealer, lipstick and then I'm out the door to go to work or go about my day.

I don't know if Clarins is better. It appears that Chanel has two major ingredients, and Clarins only has one.
I am thinking of ordering Vanicream to give it a try. I heard that it is not cosmetically elegant, but after you apply it on, allow it to soak in, and it won't rub off.
Texture wise, both Chanel & Clarins is beautiful and so easy to layer on over and over again.

free skin care · Sun Jun 12, 2011 6:10 pm

Thanks for feedback Skincare. I may try the Clarins after I finish the Chanel. I am just using the Chanel on the weekends or very sunny days ...so far this summer with all the rain it is lasting!! hope you have a nice summer. Harriet

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