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Tue Jan 18, 2005 10:04 pm  |
Hi,
This may sound really weird but I am in great need of help. 
I am looking to stretch my facial skin from the ends of my mouth back towards my ears for a less puffy and more firmer appearance.
I feel my skin is a little puffy around my mouth area, especially at the ends of them and my lower cheeks.
What I want to do is contour my facial features so my face looks thinner and more angular, not so puffy and bloated.
The only way I get the look I want is if I stretch my skin back from my mouth towards my ears. When I do this, my upper lip shows better (fuller), I get higher cheek bones, and I have the sunken cheek effect, and my overall face looks more structured.
I am very skinny so I know the bloatedness around my mouth and lower cheeks is not fat. I feel maybe it's extra water or skin or something and I would really like the thinner, firmer, more contoured look to my face.
How do supermodels get such structured faces? Thay always have high cheek bones, sunken cheeks, and everything looks so perfectly firm. What do they use (besides tons of makeup and ideal lighting  )?
So anyway, I am sorry if this sounds really strange. 
But I did hear that maybe firming masks help with this. Also facial exercises.
But are there any other products that may help?
If firming masks will, then what kind?
One other product that comes to mind is Dermalogica firming booster. Will this help also? I am currently using Epidermx, but can we use Dermalogica or firming masks along with Epidermx?
I would appreciate lots of input if you're willing. Thank you ever so much  |
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Wed Jan 19, 2005 5:36 pm |
Ascension mask used with Epidermx makes for a wonderful tightening effect! Both are made by Epiderm & Sassyred sells them both on her sight-www.beautifulnewskin.com- I have seen a wonderful tightening in my jawline area-especially when I use it as frequently as recommended-about 3x/week.
Good luck!
Maria |
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Wed Jan 19, 2005 5:57 pm |
| cutevalleygirl wrote: |
Hi,
This may sound really weird but I am in great need of help.
I am looking to stretch my facial skin from the ends of my mouth back towards my ears for a less puffy and more firmer appearance.
I feel my skin is a little puffy around my mouth area, especially at the ends of them and my lower cheeks.
What I want to do is contour my facial features so my face looks thinner and more angular, not so puffy and bloated.
The only way I get the look I want is if I stretch my skin back from my mouth towards my ears. When I do this, my upper lip shows better (fuller), I get higher cheek bones, and I have the sunken cheek effect, and my overall face looks more structured.
I am very skinny so I know the bloatedness around my mouth and lower cheeks is not fat. I feel maybe it's extra water or skin or something and I would really like the thinner, firmer, more contoured look to my face.
How do supermodels get such structured faces? Thay always have high cheek bones, sunken cheeks, and everything looks so perfectly firm. What do they use (besides tons of makeup and ideal lighting )?
So anyway, I am sorry if this sounds really strange.
But I did hear that maybe firming masks help with this. Also facial exercises.
But are there any other products that may help?
If firming masks will, then what kind?
One other product that comes to mind is Dermalogica firming booster. Will this help also? I am currently using Epidermx, but can we use Dermalogica or firming masks along with Epidermx?
I would appreciate lots of input if you're willing. Thank you ever so much |
It is not possible to change our facial structure. The best firming mask I have used is from the Body Deli "French Clay Firming Mask." A little bit goes a long way as it is very rich. Besides firming the mask is nourishing and contains awesome ingredients.It gives your face a nice lift and stays that way for several day. It is recommended to use once a week. As far as treatment on an ongoing basis AlphaDermaCE over the Mineral Prep does firm and lift the skin. My face went totally south after losing 20 lbs and it did wonders for me. The DMAE, Collagen, Elastin, Soy, Alpha Lipoic Acid and Vit. C do wonders for your skin. Of course it has 10% Argireline for lines and wrinkles. It also helps with stretch marks and scares. I used this product for months before I became a sales rep. in MA for Janson-Beckett. The Prep prepares your skin so the ADCE works to its max. (cell energy).I think it is a must to use the Prep with the AlphaDerma. I have a sample of the Ascension mask but have not tried it yet. Will report back. I have so many things to try. You can read more about AlphaDerma right here on EDS as they carry the products. The Janson-Beckett website will go into a little more reading detail. If you have any questions about the product I would be happy to answer them. I have been using the line since July.
Winnie
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Thu Jan 20, 2005 1:26 am |
| I think a lot of the celebrities use makeup in order to give appearance of higher cheek bones etc I've got one of Kevyn Aucoin's books and the difference in the before and afters is quite amazing! From what I recall the main concept is shading (using lighter and darker shades of foundation in strategic places). |
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Thu Jan 20, 2005 8:49 am |
A lot of celebs have cheek implants as well  I think Mabsy is right about makeup being the answer though, creams will only firm up skin a bit if it's gone slack...I can't imagine ADCE or any of the other DMAE products helping if the skin is already young and firm, but I guess it's worth a try  |
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Thu Jan 20, 2005 11:27 am |
| Mabsy wrote: |
| I think a lot of the celebrities use makeup in order to give appearance of higher cheek bones etc I've got one of Kevyn Aucoin's books and the difference in the before and afters is quite amazing! From what I recall the main concept is shading (using lighter and darker shades of foundation in strategic places). |
I agree! This is called "contouring" and with it you can give yourself the illusion of sharp cheekbones, camofluage a big nose, just about anything!! |
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Thu Jan 20, 2005 5:13 pm |
| carekate wrote: |
| Mabsy wrote: |
| I think a lot of the celebrities use makeup in order to give appearance of higher cheek bones etc I've got one of Kevyn Aucoin's books and the difference in the before and afters is quite amazing! From what I recall the main concept is shading (using lighter and darker shades of foundation in strategic places). |
I agree! This is called "contouring" and with it you can give yourself the illusion of sharp cheekbones, camofluage a big nose, just about anything!! |
I third that. I've also seen surgeries on TLC where models get cheek implants or lipo. |
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Thu Jan 20, 2005 6:21 pm |
| cutevalleygirl wrote: |
How do supermodels get such structured faces? Thay always have high cheek bones, sunken cheeks, and everything looks so perfectly firm. What do they use (besides tons of makeup and ideal lighting )? |
Unfortunately, these women were either born this way or have undergone surgery. Or perhaps they are severely underweight . . .
I get a puffy face too so I know what you are dealing with. I find that certain foods -- dairy is a HUGE one for me-- exacerbate my puffiness. Perhaps you are allergic to something? I would personally try a combination of diet modifacation, firming masks, and maybe a few makeup lessons. I don't like that gaunt and angled look anyway, though!!! |
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Thu Jan 20, 2005 8:39 pm |
| Mabsy wrote: |
| I think a lot of the celebrities use makeup in order to give appearance of higher cheek bones etc I've got one of Kevyn Aucoin's books and the difference in the before and afters is quite amazing! From what I recall the main concept is shading (using lighter and darker shades of foundation in strategic places). |
I have been dying to buy one of the books, but I can't seem to ever choose one. Which do you recommend?
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Fri Jan 21, 2005 7:29 am |
cutevalleygirl,
I did not realize your age when I responded to your post. I agree, that makeup application can make a big difference in contouring the face. It takes practice and patients! If your face it bloated you might be retaining fluid. Do you take any medications that may cause this to happen? Try drinking lots of water and staying away from real salty foods.
The proper skincare line will keep you face firmer. A Mask is awesome but it is only a temporary fix.
Don't forget super models have cosmetic surgery and implants at a very young. |
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Fri Jan 21, 2005 10:57 pm |
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| I have been dying to buy one of the books, but I can't seem to ever choose one. Which do you recommend? |
I've got "Making Faces". It's very good but if it's the contouring you're after then it's only briefly explained and illustrated. I haven't had a look at his other books though... |
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Sat Jan 22, 2005 12:48 pm |
Hi there,
now THIS is my schtick...I worked as a make-up artist for 20 years....cosmetic contouring is a wonderful thing -- in a photo shoot. Very minimal effects can be achieved to realistically contour the face shape for everyday life....if you are going to try to contour the face the best results are usually achieved in the eye area....also, a pretty natural effect to de-emphasize a double chin can also be achieved....but anything more dramatic will usually look - well - silly....Through the right lens and with the right lighting you can create astounding cosmetic illusions by contouring...but for everyday-walking-the-streets life -- I wouldn't count on it. To de-emphasize the area in question, avoid hairstyles that sweep away from the chin area...cuts that layer, and sweep in at the jaw line and down to your chin can work wonders....more emphasis on your eyes and eye make-up will also draw the eye away from your area of concern - and lean towards more neutral lip colour. Make-up magic is entirely different from that which we recognize in the skin care culture; -- where we "target treat" and "focus on"....In terms of make-up - the magic is not in focusing on the area of concern, rather, it is in moving away from it -- using what you have, and focusing on and enhancing the features that you like - this, to help draw the eye away ..
Hope that helps! |
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Sun Jan 23, 2005 2:00 pm |
| Wow, pudoodles, that's great advice! Thank you so much for sharing your expertise. |
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Sun Jan 23, 2005 4:28 pm |
My pleasure!
Annie |
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