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So what is the verdict on Argireline and DMAE?
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Poll :: Is Argireline and DMAE safe to use?

Yes
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No
25%
 25%  [ 1 ]
Total Votes : 4


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Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:54 pm      Reply with quote
I really want to start using products with Argireline and DMAE (for example Alphaderma CE) but I have read a few threads here from 2005 to 07 saying that the Argireline or DMAE could potentially do more harm than good in the long run. Something about the cells being killed / damaged.
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I am assuming there has been scientific research conducted since then.

Since all this discussion was from years ago I am very curious to know what the CURRENT verdict is regarding the safety of using Argireline and DMAE??
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Tue Oct 04, 2011 1:18 pm      Reply with quote
I really would like to know what you all think about the safety of long term Alphaderma CE (DMAE / Argireline) use?
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Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:31 pm      Reply with quote
Bumping this thread hoping someone will give me an answer Smile
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Mon Oct 10, 2011 8:44 pm      Reply with quote
I'm not totally sure about safety, but neither did anything for me.

I've heard that DMAE used daily will dry out the skin.
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Tue Oct 11, 2011 7:27 am      Reply with quote
I use both together. Theoretically the two actives act in totally different ways from one another but Argeriline is a peptide and it should also plump up the skin more so than DMAE but DMAE is also a very powerful antioxidant. So even if neither of them work through the mechanisms in which they are supposed to they would still have benefits. Keep in mind that Argiriline should only be used specifically on expression lines.

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Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:19 am      Reply with quote
What about the study that was done saying that DMAE kills skin cells?

This one:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2007/04/18/health-face-lift-dc-idUKCOL85568520070418

This would be bad for alphaderma CE users I'm thinking?
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Tue Oct 11, 2011 7:19 pm      Reply with quote
jhillo wrote:
What about the study that was done saying that DMAE kills skin cells?

This one:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2007/04/18/health-face-lift-dc-idUKCOL85568520070418

This would be bad for alphaderma CE users I'm thinking?


I heard about that but dont Alpha Hydroxy Acids destroy skin cells as well in the way that they cause them to come off before ready?

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Tue Oct 11, 2011 7:29 pm      Reply with quote
From what I understand AHA/BHA are supposed to "unglue" or remove dead skin cells.
This study regarding DMAE says that healthy skin cells were suffocated therefore killing them. (Poor cells). Sad
Skin gurus please chime in and drop some of that enlightening knowledge. I know many EDS members use alphaderma and other DMAE topicals.
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Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:16 pm      Reply with quote
jhillo wrote:
From what I understand AHA/BHA are supposed to "unglue" or remove dead skin cells.
This study regarding DMAE says that healthy skin cells were suffocated therefore killing them. (Poor cells). Sad
Skin gurus please chime in and drop some of that enlightening knowledge. I know many EDS members use alphaderma and other DMAE topicals.


Yes I would be interested to hear also?

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Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:37 pm      Reply with quote
You might be interested in this thread. Smile

http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=43520&highlight=dmae

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Thankyou Smile

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Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:31 am      Reply with quote
No problem, sorry for re-directing you to another thread,I have the 'dreaded lurgy' and don't have the energy to type out my opinion again. Laughing
Hope it helps anyway. Smile

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Wed Oct 26, 2011 11:51 am      Reply with quote
Thanks for your answers. I'm still on the fence with this decision to start using products with those ingredients. I just wish a study could be done on HUMAN SKIN CELLS as opposed to rabbit cells. Confused
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