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Mon Oct 31, 2011 11:21 am  |
When I became 18, I started to feel some pressure under the eye. It become harder to squint the eye � I can feel some resistance. It hasn't got worse, but now I'm 20 and can also feel the nasolabial fold. It certainly has become deeper with years.
So is it normal or not? If there's a visible crack in your skin, then you should feel it, right? |
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Mon Oct 31, 2011 2:28 pm |
| I'm alot older then you and have never felt any wrinkles. A wrinkle is not an actual crack in the skin. |
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Mon Oct 31, 2011 2:45 pm |
Vor, aging is so gradual that we don't usually "feel" the changes, I don't think. Now if you were punched in the face so that you got a swelling overnight, or something like that where a change occurs over a short period of time, then you might "feel" it or be aware of it.
I know when I started doing face exercises at twenty, the first sign that they were working was when I seemed to be aware of the muscles in my cheeks when I smiled. I didn't notice them until I smiled when I'd feel the firmness.
I do think a sudden loss in weight, as from disease, can make one aware of changes in the face, like the low mass causing skin to appear loose. I don't know why you can't squint though? Are your eyes swollen? Do you drink or smoke excessively? |
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Mon Oct 31, 2011 4:08 pm |
Maybe you should get your eyes checked out just to be on the safe side. Pressure related stuff regarding the eyes always makes me think of glaucoma.
But please dont freak out - it's probably nothing at all but for me I would get my eyes checked just to be on the safe side.
As for your NL's, I have no clue - maybe you're just ultra sensitive.
I'm really sensitive in my body and can feel every little change - I go to the doctor and he says "everything is fine, dont worry!" But then I eventually insist on a test or ultrasound or something - and I end up being right - I've learnt not to listen to doctors and to definitely not second guess myself - if I suspect something is not right with myself, I'm usually spot-on  |
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Mon Oct 31, 2011 6:18 pm |
| Glamcat wrote: |
| I've learnt not to listen to doctors and to definitely not second guess myself - if I suspect something is not right with myself, I'm usually spot-on |
I couldn't agree more. Taking control of your well-being and being aware of your body to know when a second opinion or test is necessary is really a good way to be.
Vor, I do agree with just getting the all clear from a doctor. I do know that sometimes when we start to pay attention to ourselves, we notice things more than when we weren't. It's kinda like when you learn a new word and then it seems everyone has just started using it when it's really that we didn't recognize it before when it didn't mean a thing to us.
Whatever the case, Vor, stay positive. |
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Mon Oct 31, 2011 6:21 pm |
| Kind of like when you get older you start seeing lines that were probably there when you were 18 but because you're older now you notice them and call them "wrinkles" lol |
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Mon Oct 31, 2011 6:25 pm |
| flgirl wrote: |
| Kind of like when you get older you start seeing lines that were probably there when you were 18 but because you're older now you notice them and call them "wrinkles" lol |
LOL  I definitely agree with that! hahaha... It's good to look at old photos and realize that 'new' line or anomaly was always there!   |
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Mon Oct 31, 2011 6:30 pm |
| Nonie aka AD wrote: |
| I couldn't agree more. Taking control of your well-being and being aware of your body to know when a second opinion or test is necessary is really a good way to be. |
Absolutely! I think some of us are very sensitive or in-tune with our bodies and we detect things that are amiss more accurately than some doctors or specialists.
My doctor has learnt for sure that if I'm right I'm right -- he has sent me to specialists, etc - and they have come back saying things like: "no she's imagining it!" OMG! Then at some point down the track, usually once things have spiralled downhill - guess what? I was right! And I get to say to my doctor: "I told you so!!!" but that is usually little consolation as by that stage I'm up for some pretty serious procedure!  |
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Mon Oct 31, 2011 8:04 pm |
The only time I've ever felt anything like that is after my skin has been dried out or damaged by some kind of treatment. Or when the outer corners of my eyes became irritated by the saltwater from my tears as it collected there on windy days & me brushing it away. Every expression I made kind of bothered me.
Could you be using some kind of product which is damaging your skin and perhaps be desensitized to it for some reason? Has moisturizing helped?
Sometimes I look at people's skin and think to myself that it looks tight & uncomfortable, and I can certainly see their wrinkles as they make certain expressions. I wonder if they may be unaware that their skin may be parched or in need of some treatment just because they're so used to how it feels. |
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Olive, normal/oily skin. Using rinse-off ocm, Vit C, Tretinoin since Nov/10, GHK since Feb/12, Niacinamide & glucosamine, alternating, & now skipping nights! Concerns include oiliness, hyperpigmentation from occasional zits, 11's & nasolabial folds. |
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Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:16 am |
It's better after I have moisturised the skin, but it comes back after like 10 hours. I'm not worried about looking older than people my age and I probably don't (some even have more lines), but the stiff feeling worries me. Maybe I will still age older in the future? I got it half a year after taking finasteride in the eye socket area. It was winter.
It also gets better after I have squinted my face a lot, like after facial exercise. It's like I have to work against the wrinkles or lines that try to hold the skin in a certain position. |
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Tue Nov 01, 2011 3:39 pm |
| Yeah I was going to say maybe you should look into facial exercises? I cant recommend a programme as I dont yet do it myself, but I'm certainly going to get into doing them as soon as I have a bit of time on my hands |
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Tue Nov 01, 2011 6:38 pm |
| Vor wrote: |
It's better after I have moisturised the skin, but it comes back after like 10 hours. I'm not worried about looking older than people my age and I probably don't (some even have more lines), but the stiff feeling worries me. Maybe I will still age older in the future? I got it half a year after taking finasteride in the eye socket area. It was winter.
It also gets better after I have squinted my face a lot, like after facial exercise. It's like I have to work against the wrinkles or lines that try to hold the skin in a certain position. |
Please seek medical advice on this: your skin should not be showing the visible signs of ageing at 20 and fine lines don't feel any different to more youthful skin. It sounds more like dehydration or dermatitis, but you do need a formal diagnosis to ensure you are treating it correctly. |
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Sensitivity, forehead pigmentation & elevens, nose & chin clogged pores. Topicals: Aloe vera, squalane, lactic acid, Myfawnie KinNiaNag HG: Weleda calendula, Lanolips, Guinot masque essentiel, Flexitol Naturals, Careprost. Gadgets: Vaughter dermarollers, Lightstim. |
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Thu Nov 03, 2011 2:49 am |
| I've got no visible signs. My skin just feels tight. I don't know, if I fully support facial exercises, because when I squint my face, small wrinkles become visible. |
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Thu Nov 03, 2011 5:34 am |
| Vor wrote: |
| I've got no visible signs. My skin just feels tight. I don't know, if I fully support facial exercises, because when I squint my face, small wrinkles become visible. |
Tightness is not a sign of ageing; I think your 'diagnosis' is incorrect and thus your 'treatment' is unlikely to be ineffective. Have you tried a back-to-basics skincare routine that is suited to very dry and sensitive skin? Is your diet and lifestyle encouraging your skin to be hydrated and calming to the immune system? |
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Sensitivity, forehead pigmentation & elevens, nose & chin clogged pores. Topicals: Aloe vera, squalane, lactic acid, Myfawnie KinNiaNag HG: Weleda calendula, Lanolips, Guinot masque essentiel, Flexitol Naturals, Careprost. Gadgets: Vaughter dermarollers, Lightstim. |
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Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:29 am |
| Vor wrote: |
| I've got no visible signs. My skin just feels tight. I don't know, if I fully support facial exercises, because when I squint my face, small wrinkles become visible. |
I agree with Firefox7275, tightness isn't aging. When I had dry combination skin, my skin would feel tight after washing it until I applied a moisturizer. Then water-based moisturizers would make it look good initially then it'd look dull and have fine lines later. OCM helped change that and I don't even need a moisturizer.
Diet is also very important. Check out the thread on anti-aging and that on hyperpigmentation. Do you consume oily fish like salmon at least once a week, or take a supplement of essential fatty acids? Do you eat lots of fruits and veggies? Do you drink water? Also not sure what the water is like where you live (Hard water can be very drying) but investing in a shower filter or water softener can make a difference to how your hair and skin feel.
I mentioned I use OCM. That's oil cleansing and you can read about it here:www.theoilcleansingmethod.com (I use extra virgin oil and usually sleep with a bare face after doing it. In the morning I just splash my face with plain lukewarm water, use a paper towel to dry my face, then apply sunblock. That's it. My face couldn't be happier.) Some days I don't even do the OCM but just use plain water and a face cloth. It seems as if when I stopped slathering every moisturizing product I could find, my skin responded favorably by showing me how well it could produce and retain moisture if I wasn't meddling. Maybe that could work for you. I do eat well though, so if you're into junk food, you may have to cut back. Instead of eating deep fried foods, get good fats from healthy oils like coconut oil in rice, cook with olive oil, eat oily fish.
Dry skin feels tight and then when you smile it appears to crack and wrinkle. On reading your latest posts, I feel that's what's going on with your skin. |
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Thu Nov 03, 2011 7:21 pm |
I'm curious about your diet now too Vor, do you drink enough water and consume enough oils?
And what does taking "finasteride in the eye socket area" mean? I googled but it didn't make sense to me.
Also 10 hours 'til your skin reverts to its original condition is all topical treatments can usually offer, as far as I understand. Plus then its time to cleanse again anyway!
I'm sorry, I don't mean to be difficult here... |
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Olive, normal/oily skin. Using rinse-off ocm, Vit C, Tretinoin since Nov/10, GHK since Feb/12, Niacinamide & glucosamine, alternating, & now skipping nights! Concerns include oiliness, hyperpigmentation from occasional zits, 11's & nasolabial folds. |
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Fri Nov 04, 2011 8:12 am |
I eat lots of fish so I should have enough fatty acids in my diet. I drink a lot milk and water. Perhaps once in two weeks I eat junk food.
I moisturise my face once in two days with cream and also apply avocado oil once or twice a week. I just leave it on. Am I doing it right? It does feel a little better after that. |
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Sat Nov 05, 2011 8:08 am |
| Vor wrote: |
I eat lots of fish so I should have enough fatty acids in my diet. I drink a lot milk and water. Perhaps once in two weeks I eat junk food.
I moisturise my face once in two days with cream and also apply avocado oil once or twice a week. I just leave it on. Am I doing it right? It does feel a little better after that. |
You may well already know this but not all fish contain long chain omega-3s: trout, salmon and sardines are good sources but cod, haddock and canned tuna are not. Fish alone is unlikely to supply enough healthy fats for a male of your age - you will need avocados, olive oil, nuts and seeds as well.
It's usual to cleanse and moisturise the skin twice each day - I find oils absorb/ hydrate best if I emulsify them in my hand with a little hyaluronic acid serum or aloe vera gel. Be sure to use a gentle cleansing method, no sulphate surfactants or harsh exfoliants. |
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Sensitivity, forehead pigmentation & elevens, nose & chin clogged pores. Topicals: Aloe vera, squalane, lactic acid, Myfawnie KinNiaNag HG: Weleda calendula, Lanolips, Guinot masque essentiel, Flexitol Naturals, Careprost. Gadgets: Vaughter dermarollers, Lightstim. |
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Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:04 pm |
I think you are too young to have the "so-called" wrinkles. Once you wink, you can see fine lines but it will go away or go back to its original state. I think maybe your skin is not properly hydrated. Use a moisturizer to hydrate your skin.... I think this will do for now....
Check this site, EDS, it has lots of creams to suit everyone searching for good skin.
| Vor wrote: |
When I became 18, I started to feel some pressure under the eye. It become harder to squint the eye � I can feel some resistance. It hasn't got worse, but now I'm 20 and can also feel the nasolabial fold. It certainly has become deeper with years.
So is it normal or not? If there's a visible crack in your skin, then you should feel it, right? |
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