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Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:57 pm |
myamax wrote: |
Does anyone know the pulse energy for the Reaura on level 2 and 3?
Someone else posted the info for the Tria and I would be curious to compare the two
(Tria SRL wave length
Level 1 pulse energy - 5mj, 30 seconds
Level 2 pulse energy - 10mj one minute
Level 3 pulse energy - 12mj, 2.5 minutes)
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Hi Myamax, I did do a comparison between the 2 lasers with the information that I had on the ReAura. You can scan down on the link below to read it. It is kind of hard to compare because we don't have all the same breakdown of information for both lasers. I keep thinking we are missing some important information. Mostly because Tria said not to use any treatment gel because it could block the light from the laser. To the best of my knowledge the gel was made to use with the Fraxel laser so that leads me to believe that Tria is using a different laser platform/kind. Also the different treatment schedule/time use of the lasers. I don't think that I could use the ReAura 7 days a week. My skin would be way to red. Maybe the amount of pluses the 2 machines put out each treatment is very different and that might account for the differences. This is something I never thought of before. Either way what information I could get from both lasers is in the link.
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=46507&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=200 |
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Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:31 pm |
CookieD wrote: |
myamax wrote: |
Does anyone know the pulse energy for the Reaura on level 2 and 3?
Someone else posted the info for the Tria and I would be curious to compare the two
(Tria SRL wave length
Level 1 pulse energy - 5mj, 30 seconds
Level 2 pulse energy - 10mj one minute
Level 3 pulse energy - 12mj, 2.5 minutes)
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Hi Myamax, I did do a comparison between the 2 lasers with the information that I had on the ReAura. You can scan down on the link below to read it. It is kind of hard to compare because we don't have all the same breakdown of information for both lasers. I keep thinking we are missing some important information. Mostly because Tria said not to use any treatment gel because it could block the light from the laser. To the best of my knowledge the gel was made to use with the Fraxel laser so that leads me to believe that Tria is using a different laser platform/kind. Also the different treatment schedule/time use of the lasers. I don't think that I could use the ReAura 7 days a week. My skin would be way to red. Maybe the amount of pluses the 2 machines put out each treatment is very different and that might account for the differences. This is something I never thought of before. Either way what information I could get from both lasers is in the link.
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=46507&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=200 |
Tria was sued for patent infringement for their laser hair removal device, so I am betting that they were pretty cautious when making this skin unit. Something definitely has to be different between the 2 units. |
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Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:59 pm |
Hmmm....I just read this on a link that PQ had on his blog:
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Patients should avoid taking oral retinoids (Accutane) for at least 6 months prior to treatment, and topical retinoids such as Retin-A, Renova, or Avage should be discontinued at least 2 weeks before treatment. Patients on systemic steroids (cortisone) or with serious underlying may not heal normally and do not typically make ideal candidates for the procedure. Patients with a history of fever blistering of the lips or elsewhere should take an antiviral prophylaxis (e.g. Acyclovir or Valtrex) before treatment. Patients who are prone to keloid formation (excessive scarring) may be at increased risk for these problems following fractional resurfacing. Patients with a history of pigmentation changes developing after trauma (e.g. brown or black scars) are at risk of this occuring following a Frational Laser Resurfacing procedure and should use hydroquinone cream (a skin lightening cream that "turns off" the pigment producing cells) for one month prior to initiating laser treatments. The treatment should be postponed if the area to be treated is swollen for any reason.
http://www.mdcosmetic.com/FractionalResurfacing.aspx |
I have very fair skin, but do occasionally get PIH spots from acne, etc. I am thinking that I may need to wait before using my device, and pretreat with HQ or Lumixyl first. |
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Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:02 pm |
bethany wrote: |
Hmmm....I just read this on a link that PQ had on his blog:
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Patients should avoid taking oral retinoids (Accutane) for at least 6 months prior to treatment, and topical retinoids such as Retin-A, Renova, or Avage should be discontinued at least 2 weeks before treatment. Patients on systemic steroids (cortisone) or with serious underlying may not heal normally and do not typically make ideal candidates for the procedure. Patients with a history of fever blistering of the lips or elsewhere should take an antiviral prophylaxis (e.g. Acyclovir or Valtrex) before treatment. Patients who are prone to keloid formation (excessive scarring) may be at increased risk for these problems following fractional resurfacing. Patients with a history of pigmentation changes developing after trauma (e.g. brown or black scars) are at risk of this occuring following a Frational Laser Resurfacing procedure and should use hydroquinone cream (a skin lightening cream that "turns off" the pigment producing cells) for one month prior to initiating laser treatments. The treatment should be postponed if the area to be treated is swollen for any reason.
http://www.mdcosmetic.com/FractionalResurfacing.aspx |
I have very fair skin, but do occasionally get PIH spots from acne, etc. I am thinking that I may need to wait before using my device, and pretreat with HQ or Lumixyl first. |
I think this would apply only to ethnic skin, Caucasian skin rarely get PIH if at all... |
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Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:17 pm |
bethany wrote: |
Hmmm....I just read this on a link that PQ had on his blog:
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Patients should avoid taking oral retinoids (Accutane) for at least 6 months prior to treatment, and topical retinoids such as Retin-A, Renova, or Avage should be discontinued at least 2 weeks before treatment. Patients on systemic steroids (cortisone) or with serious underlying may not heal normally and do not typically make ideal candidates for the procedure. Patients with a history of fever blistering of the lips or elsewhere should take an antiviral prophylaxis (e.g. Acyclovir or Valtrex) before treatment. Patients who are prone to keloid formation (excessive scarring) may be at increased risk for these problems following fractional resurfacing. Patients with a history of pigmentation changes developing after trauma (e.g. brown or black scars) are at risk of this occuring following a Frational Laser Resurfacing procedure and should use hydroquinone cream (a skin lightening cream that "turns off" the pigment producing cells) for one month prior to initiating laser treatments. The treatment should be postponed if the area to be treated is swollen for any reason.
http://www.mdcosmetic.com/FractionalResurfacing.aspx |
I have very fair skin, but do occasionally get PIH spots from acne, etc. I am thinking that I may need to wait before using my device, and pretreat with HQ or Lumixyl first. |
Maybe you can post the question on the ReAura website and see what they say. It has gotten rid of a bunch of brown spots on my face but I am not prone to PIH spots. By the way in the link you posted, my face had that same brown spot near the women's eye in the first photo. Mine may have been a little bit more filled in but it is gone just like in the after photo and it was there for many years and I had tried a lot of things to get rid of it to no avail. |
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Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:26 pm |
daler wrote: |
bethany wrote: |
Hmmm....I just read this on a link that PQ had on his blog:
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Patients should avoid taking oral retinoids (Accutane) for at least 6 months prior to treatment, and topical retinoids such as Retin-A, Renova, or Avage should be discontinued at least 2 weeks before treatment. Patients on systemic steroids (cortisone) or with serious underlying may not heal normally and do not typically make ideal candidates for the procedure. Patients with a history of fever blistering of the lips or elsewhere should take an antiviral prophylaxis (e.g. Acyclovir or Valtrex) before treatment. Patients who are prone to keloid formation (excessive scarring) may be at increased risk for these problems following fractional resurfacing. Patients with a history of pigmentation changes developing after trauma (e.g. brown or black scars) are at risk of this occuring following a Frational Laser Resurfacing procedure and should use hydroquinone cream (a skin lightening cream that "turns off" the pigment producing cells) for one month prior to initiating laser treatments. The treatment should be postponed if the area to be treated is swollen for any reason.
http://www.mdcosmetic.com/FractionalResurfacing.aspx |
I have very fair skin, but do occasionally get PIH spots from acne, etc. I am thinking that I may need to wait before using my device, and pretreat with HQ or Lumixyl first. |
I think this would apply only to ethnic skin, Caucasian skin rarely get PIH if at all... |
I guess I am one of the rare ones then, lol. Lucky me! |
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Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:27 am |
Just an FYI that I haven't tried my ReAura yet because I am under some major work deadlines and have a work trip next Mon-Wed. Since I don't want to look puffy or red during my sales pitch, I am waiting until I come home since I am soooo prone to inflammation.
But it was 100% sealed and brand new, and I have already charged it up.
This unit is based on the Fraxel Refine, which was about $1,000 a treatment when I had it done many years ago (5 treatments recommended ). My sister just had the Fraxel Restore done last week and it was $2,000 for her face and chest. She is planning on using the ReAura for maintenance. |
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Thu Dec 06, 2012 3:02 am |
I'm excited you have it, Bethany. I have two more treatments to go before I complete my first round, and I must admit I am fairly longing to restabilise my skin so that it isn't roughened, sunburned, and in constant need of exfoliation and hydration,AND I am very enamoured of the results, and am thrilled with this tool. Finally I can see an end in sight to all the sun damage on my chest, all the freckling on my forehead has gone, my face is tighter and on the weekend a gf said to me " you look airbrushed!" ... The wrinkles on my forehead are seriously diminished and the sides of my eyes are very smoothed. It's a seriously wow factor tool. A so worthwhile ride!
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Thu Dec 06, 2012 5:11 pm |
catski wrote: |
I'm excited you have it, Bethany. I have two more treatments to go before I complete my first round, and I must admit I am fairly longing to restabilise my skin so that it isn't roughened, sunburned, and in constant need of exfoliation and hydration,AND I am very enamoured of the results, and am thrilled with this tool. Finally I can see an end in sight to all the sun damage on my chest, all the freckling on my forehead has gone, my face is tighter and on the weekend a gf said to me " you look airbrushed!" ... The wrinkles on my forehead are seriously diminished and the sides of my eyes are very smoothed. It's a seriously wow factor tool. A so worthwhile ride!
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What great news....I love it when people have fab results! Hopefully I will have the same! |
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Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:24 pm |
For that price, i'll take my LightStim instead!! |
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Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:32 pm |
EC413 wrote: |
For that price, i'll take my LightStim instead!! |
But an LED light can't be compared to a Fraxel Laser - they are two entirely different technologies which operate in totally different ways. |
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Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:37 pm |
Keliu wrote: |
EC413 wrote: |
For that price, i'll take my LightStim instead!! |
But an LED light can't be compared to a Fraxel Laser - they are two entirely different technologies which operate in totally different ways. |
Very true. I guess I just couldn't ever find the ability to spend that sort of money on something that isn't guaranteed, nor the guts to use a "laser" at home. I'd probably rather leave that to the professionals.
I'm in my early 30's, so getting a laser isn't even really a necessity right now. But LEDs seem more safe and worthy for at home use compared to a laser. |
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Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:54 pm |
EC413 wrote: |
Very true. I guess I just couldn't ever find the ability to spend that sort of money on something that isn't guaranteed, nor the guts to use a "laser" at home. I'd probably rather leave that to the professionals.
I'm in my early 30's, so getting a laser isn't even really a necessity right now. But LEDs seem more safe and worthy for at home use compared to a laser. |
To my knowledge, there is nothing "unsafe" about the ReAura Laser - it has been especially manufactured for home use and has the appropriate safety elements built in so you can't over-use it. Considering the cost of professional treatments - I believe it's a very cost effective alternative.
At early 30s, you are probably too young to consider laser treatments - and I'm all for incorporating an LED into a skincare regimen. But I don't agree that other people should be turned off using the ReAura because it is "unsafe" and an LED is a better option - because that is not the case. |
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Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:55 pm |
I was wondering if anyone has used this laser or the tria one on a scar with good results? Thank you! |
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Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:00 pm |
EC413 wrote: |
Keliu wrote: |
EC413 wrote: |
For that price, i'll take my LightStim instead!! |
But an LED light can't be compared to a Fraxel Laser - they are two entirely different technologies which operate in totally different ways. |
Very true. I guess I just couldn't ever find the ability to spend that sort of money on something that isn't guaranteed, nor the guts to use a "laser" at home. I'd probably rather leave that to the professionals.
I'm in my early 30's, so getting a laser isn't even really a necessity right now. But LEDs seem more safe and worthy for at home use compared to a laser. |
Hi EC413, pls dont be so sure about the safety of professional lasers, I have read horror stories re professional fraxel lasers on realself.com( like loss of facial fat, skin texture ruining, pores opening in the long run etc ) but non so far by these home use lasers... |
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Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:11 pm |
Bethany - is your seller also selling the Laser Gel and After Care Complex? |
_________________ Born 1950. There's a new cream on the market that gets rid of wrinkles - you smear it on the mirror!! |
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Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:12 am |
I'm sorry if this has been asked before, but can you use it on skin thats had dermal fillers? Does it effect the fillers at all?
Also do you think late 30s is still early to use?
I don't have wrinkles so much (well not to the point its an issue ...yet) but i'ts more about a nice even toned complexion, some dark spots that were once pimples that never really healed fully, that sort of thing, but of course antiaging benefits or delaying it all would be fab too.
Glad you all love it though |
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Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:39 am |
Keliu wrote: |
Bethany - is your seller also selling the Laser Gel and After Care Complex? |
He ordered some for me and sent it with my package, but he ordered it from SpaceNK just like Cookie did herself. So it does not appear that he can get it in volume or at a discount. |
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Fri Dec 07, 2012 7:58 am |
I have fillers and have not noticed any deterioration of them and I am 1/2 way through my second 8-week treatment. I think fillers are placed at a deeper level than is reached by this laser.
Just a comment on safety - I am someone who received burns from a professionally administered IPL treatment and also from laser! The safety features on ReAura are really good. I think it is impossible to accidentally get a shot anywhere near the eye. The device actually shuts off briefly when it has given the maximum # of pulses in any zone. It also beeps to let you know that you have reached that point. It will not continuously fire over one area; you must keep it moving in order to have it perform. I am really impressed with the features and feel more confident that I will not end up with a burn when I do this for myself vs professional treatment.
As for cost; you will have recouped the cost of the device about half way through the first treatment protocol. BUT you now have a laser at your disposal for quite a while. The Philips says the device should last approximately 7 years! |
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Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:41 am |
I haven't done a treatment in awhile and it's killing me!! One of my twins has colic and I lack free time but he's nearly 3 months old and they say it goes away by then.
Anyway...I apologize for touching on this subject again but what's the verdict on using Retinol and using the ReAura?
I recently purchased eye serum with Retinol in it and it's an amazing ingredient that I can finally use after trying to get pregnant for like forever, haha, so I've missed out on Retinol products and now want to start using them. |
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Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:29 am |
Keliu wrote: |
EC413 wrote: |
Very true. I guess I just couldn't ever find the ability to spend that sort of money on something that isn't guaranteed, nor the guts to use a "laser" at home. I'd probably rather leave that to the professionals.
I'm in my early 30's, so getting a laser isn't even really a necessity right now. But LEDs seem more safe and worthy for at home use compared to a laser. |
To my knowledge, there is nothing "unsafe" about the ReAura Laser - it has been especially manufactured for home use and has the appropriate safety elements built in so you can't over-use it. Considering the cost of professional treatments - I believe it's a very cost effective alternative.
At early 30s, you are probably too young to consider laser treatments - and I'm all for incorporating an LED into a skincare regimen. But I don't agree that other people should be turned off using the ReAura because it is "unsafe" and an LED is a better option - because that is not the case. |
Well thank you for the information. Maybe I'll be getting one in the next ten years! I guess the world "laser" scares me. But if it gives great results, I'm all for it!! |
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Sat Dec 08, 2012 1:57 pm |
WhiteWolf wrote: |
Anyway...I apologize for touching on this subject again but what's the verdict on using Retinol and using the ReAura?
I recently purchased eye serum with Retinol in it and it's an amazing ingredient that I can finally use after trying to get pregnant for like forever, haha, so I've missed out on Retinol products and now want to start using them. |
Cookie said she is not seeing any issues in using retinol products on her skin, and I plan to continue my Vit A/C protocol as well. However, I am going to drop to a slightly lower level of my Environ products just to be safe. I am also planning to use the owndoc Vit A ointment post treatment. |
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Sat Dec 15, 2012 7:48 pm |
My sister is going to take before pics for me tomorrow, and then I will start my 8 week series on Monday! |
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Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:04 am |
mismis wrote: |
I have fillers and have not noticed any deterioration of them and I am 1/2 way through my second 8-week treatment. I think fillers are placed at a deeper level than is reached by this laser.
Just a comment on safety - I am someone who received burns from a professionally administered IPL treatment and also from laser! The safety features on ReAura are really good. I think it is impossible to accidentally get a shot anywhere near the eye. The device actually shuts off briefly when it has given the maximum # of pulses in any zone. It also beeps to let you know that you have reached that point. It will not continuously fire over one area; you must keep it moving in order to have it perform. I am really impressed with the features and feel more confident that I will not end up with a burn when I do this for myself vs professional treatment.
As for cost; you will have recouped the cost of the device about half way through the first treatment protocol. BUT you now have a laser at your disposal for quite a while. The Philips says the device should last approximately 7 years! |
Hi mismis, I am rebecca and also knew you over at the SD forum. Anyway wondered if you wouldnt mind answering a question for me. I remembered you used the reAura on your chest area as I am ( but I am using the Tria). I know you got great results, but I was wondering how long it took you to notice improvement. I am 6 weeks into treatment, and whilst my face has improved in terms of pigmentation dramatically, my chest is much less so. It may be that I wasn't doing a long enough treatment there initially. Anyway just wondering if you might share your experience. thanks!! |
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Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:10 pm |
bethany wrote: |
My sister is going to take before pics for me tomorrow, and then I will start my 8 week series on Monday! |
Ok...vacation started a little than hoped, sigh. Tomorrow I will do pics and then will do the ReAura treatment later this week. |
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