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Thu Nov 24, 2011 5:26 pm |
I have very fine hair and it will only grow so long and has no body. Im wanting to add thickness as well as length. Have been reading up on them and see a lot of good and bad. my main are concerns are, do they damage your own hair, how long do they last and are there different types of hair to mach your own. For example, I have fine hairs, and adding thick hairs would not feel the same? |
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Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:54 pm |
I would make sure to get extensions with real hair and make sure it is the same texture as your hair.
I have wavy hair and had straight extensions...too much work to maintain them.
Also if you go to "white people salon/store" they charge 100x more for the hair.
This is what a lot of my friends who happen to be Jamaican/African American tell me.
If you go to a store that specializes in African kind of hair they actually sell the same kinds of hair- like blonde,wavy,straight...in every colour too- and really cheap.
I just had the extensions you glue in a few years ago- my sister had helped me put them in and I kept them in about a month...then they just got too annoying.
I also ruined my cheap hair straightener as it had glue all over (was a cheap one,so did not care).
To remove I had to use some kind of oil.
Some salons, like if you go to the places that braid "african" hair they can also tie in some extensions and those are better I think.
I was quoted around $200-300, plus you buy your own hair and bring that.
A place in the mall that just did "white" people's hair- not stuff with braiding- they would not let me get my own hair at the store and wanted $1,200+++ for their extensions.
There is also a site online Paula Young that sells hair volumizing pieces.
I only bought a braid headband and it does match my hair exactly, so they sell hair there too I think. |
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Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:57 pm |
I would make sure to get extensions with real hair and make sure it is the same texture as your hair.
I have wavy hair and had straight extensions...too much work to maintain them.
Also if you go to "white people salon/store" they charge 100x more for the hair.
This is what a lot of my friends who happen to be Jamaican/African American tell me.
If you go to a store that specializes in African kind of hair they actually sell the same kinds of hair- like blonde,wavy,straight...in every colour too- and really cheap.
I just had the extensions you glue in a few years ago- my sister had helped me put them in and I kept them in about a month...then they just got too annoying.
I also ruined my cheap hair straightener as it had glue all over (was a cheap one,so did not care).
To remove I had to use some kind of oil.
Some salons, like if you go to the places that braid "african" hair they can also tie in some extensions and those are better I think.
I was quoted around $200-300, plus you buy your own hair and bring that.
A place in the mall that just did "white" people's hair- not stuff with braiding- they would not let me get my own hair at the store and wanted $1,200+++ for their extensions.
There is also a site online Paula Young that sells hair volumizing pieces.
I only bought a braid headband and it does match my hair exactly, so they sell hair there too I think. |
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Fri Nov 25, 2011 8:23 am |
Hair extensions vary hugely in quality and this is what you pay for. There are some amazing ones that you would think were just your natural hair.
There are also some cheap and nasty ones that look just that!! They are great for when you are trying to grow out your own hair, and of course to add volume. Some of them can be harsh on your own hair but again the good quality ones won't damage your hair. Obviously they need to be treated probably. Do some research, but you do definitely get what you pay for!!
Also I would recommend going to a 'hair extension specialist' not just an ordinary hairdresser, as they are doing extensions all the time not just now and then! |
_________________ I'm 49, fair skin, green eyes, blonde hair, dry slightly sensitive skin, I have very few wrinkles, slight pigmentation, main worry is sagging..yuck!! Currently using CP |
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Fri Nov 25, 2011 9:18 am |
When I went in to the salon recently to have my highlights and lowlights done, the hairdresser who occupies the room next door to my hairdresser popped in to show us her extensions. She had bought them from Sally's at 80-90.00 for the longest ones and they clip in to add volume and length. She took one out and put it back in without a mirror, yet you could tug on it and did not come out. They were perfect texture and color, easy to put in, cheap enough but the quality looked and felt very real!
I was impreseed. Plus Melissa (my hairdresser) said if I got some blonde ones and brought them in, she could highlight and lowlight them for me to match my hair exactly since the blonde shade is harder to match.
She has bought some and plans on using them for her wedding.
Great (and cheaper) alternative, plus you can add and remove them without damaging your hair! |
_________________ Joined the 50 club several years back, blonde w/ fair/sensitive skin, Texas humidity and prone to rosacea, light breakouts and sunburns, combo skin type, starting to see sundamage and fine lines |
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Fri Nov 25, 2011 11:21 am |
I am planning on getting real, high quality hair. Would braiding them or fusing them be a better option? |
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Fri Nov 25, 2011 11:51 am |
I have had both. After the glue in ones, I would have to cut my hair.
I have wanted hair extensions again, but its not in the budget. I would buy the highest quality hair. then I would sew the clips in myself. Its like sewing on a button. You can find a youtube video to show you how.
Buy the hair, then have the salon dye your hair to match the extensions.
Its so hard with the up keep. I would vote clip in extensions.
http://www.ivillage.co.uk/the-truth-about-hair-extensions/76157
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RObM3WEGp2g |
_________________ 35, dark hair, blue eyes, ruddy skin and a EDS Forum devotee |
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Sat Nov 26, 2011 1:17 am |
I have hair extensions and utterly adore them,
I have a lot of fine hair but in my humid climate my hair was a lot of work.
At the age of 52 I got tape extensions for my niece's wedding. Looked great but the hair was very knotty.
When spring hit here i couldn't put my hair up with the tapes not showing.
I researched and decided upon Great Lengths. I am more than thrilled. I now have shoulder lenghth hair that I can wear down, put up you name it. I let it dry naturally and it has a gorgeous wave to it so I now have literally maintenance free luscious hair. The hair is 'virgin' hair that means it has never been colored or processed and is ethically sourced from Indian.
Its not cheap but is worth every cent!! |
_________________ 54 fair skin green eyes, some fine lines. |
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Sat Nov 26, 2011 4:34 pm |
Are they fused or braided in? One of my biggest concerns is damage to my real hair. |
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Sat Nov 26, 2011 4:56 pm |
I strongly advise against hair extensions of any kind and work on improving the health of your real hair. The stress of hair extensions of any kinds are disasterous to the hair follicles, they just can't withstand carrying the weight of three heads of hair on them. If you must get them, I recommend against the bonded ones. Clip ins only, and sparingly. Just my two cents. |
_________________ Late 30's, fair skin, dark hair. Retin A, DIY potions. Missions completed- acne, acne scarring, 11's, redness, contact dermatitis. Working on maintenence and cellulite. |
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Sat Nov 26, 2011 5:08 pm |
Thank you....that was my main concern. I have had very thin hair my whole life...if I could thicken it with supplements and topicals, that would be my preferred choice. I am currently taking msm, biotin, silica, bio cell ha, and am thinking about rogain? |
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Sat Nov 26, 2011 5:16 pm |
They use a keratin fusion technique. I have had no hair loss or breakage.
I get my hair coloured every 6 weeks and my hairdresser is usually anti extensions but he is very impressed with how my own hair is undamaged. |
_________________ 54 fair skin green eyes, some fine lines. |
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Sat Nov 26, 2011 7:16 pm |
Many years ago I bought Jose Ebert's snap on hair extensions. Real human hair and it was reasonably priced. I occasionally use the small strips to add volume. I don't even know if they make something like that any more though. |
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Sun Nov 27, 2011 3:27 pm |
I keep going back and forth lol. But risking damaging my own hair is enough to sway me into not getting them |
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Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:51 am |
I've had them as well and they didn't do any harm to my hair, but I have pretty good hair!
It probably depends on really how thin and strong your own hair is? Maybe take some supplements (msm, biotin) for a while and try to strenghten your own hair first? Sorry can't help further! |
_________________ I'm 49, fair skin, green eyes, blonde hair, dry slightly sensitive skin, I have very few wrinkles, slight pigmentation, main worry is sagging..yuck!! Currently using CP |
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Mon Nov 28, 2011 5:12 pm |
Hi Ava,
Thanks for your 2-cent advise. I think I would like to buy those clip-ons that I can remove whenever I please without damaging my real hair....
Ava with wings wrote: |
I strongly advise against hair extensions of any kind and work on improving the health of your real hair. The stress of hair extensions of any kinds are disasterous to the hair follicles, they just can't withstand carrying the weight of three heads of hair on them. If you must get them, I recommend against the bonded ones. Clip ins only, and sparingly. Just my two cents. |
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Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:39 am |
Ava with wings wrote: |
I strongly advise against hair extensions of any kind and work on improving the health of your real hair. The stress of hair extensions of any kinds are disasterous to the hair follicles, they just can't withstand carrying the weight of three heads of hair on them. If you must get them, I recommend against the bonded ones. Clip ins only, and sparingly. Just my two cents. |
Well, what if your hair is healthy and just not very thick anymore?
I actually lost about 50% of the thickness of my hair a few years ago due to some health issues.
My hair still looks nice- in great condition, but I can not grow my hair very long as it is very fine on the ends.
I have my hair layered so it looks a bit thicker, so that does help.
But I can't wear bangs because they are much too fine- I cal only style my front hair off to the side.
So, for me I would love to get some kind of extensions again.
Just have not had time to look into it lately. |
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Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:47 pm |
Ottawa Shopper wrote: |
Ava with wings wrote: |
I strongly advise against hair extensions of any kind and work on improving the health of your real hair. The stress of hair extensions of any kinds are disasterous to the hair follicles, they just can't withstand carrying the weight of three heads of hair on them. If you must get them, I recommend against the bonded ones. Clip ins only, and sparingly. Just my two cents. |
Well, what if your hair is healthy and just not very thick anymore?
I actually lost about 50% of the thickness of my hair a few years ago due to some health issues.
My hair still looks nice- in great condition, but I can not grow my hair very long as it is very fine on the ends.
I have my hair layered so it looks a bit thicker, so that does help.
But I can't wear bangs because they are much too fine- I cal only style my front hair off to the side.
So, for me I would love to get some kind of extensions again.
Just have not had time to look into it lately. |
Ottawa Shopper you say the ends are fine, are your roots thick?
I ask because whenever I hear people talking of fine ends, I suspect it's from wear and tear and splits. The ends are the oldest parts of your hair and the longer you hold onto them, the more time the elements, styling, etc have to tear down the cuticle. I find regular dusting (that is trimming very little) every 8 weeks help to keep my ends nice and thick and it wasn't until I started to do this that I sa my hair grow beyond 5-6 inches. For over 30 years, I thought that is all my hair could achieve.
Next I wondered if you've heard of sewn-in weaves. Not everyone does them with the health of the hair in mind but there's a stylist in MD, Reniece, who is not cheap but whose appointment sheet is filled for years at a time because she really does nurture your hair back to health while you sport a beautiful mane of hair that isn't yours. She teaches you how to care for you hair that is braided and kept "safe" from everyday manipulation. At this link are before/after photos showing how the weaves helped improve the condition of her clients' hair: http://www.reniece.com/healthyhair.html
And at this next link, you can see how the weaves look. Basically your hair is braided and the hair sewn onto the braids. Because Reniece is so good at what she does, there's hardly any strain on your own hair and your own hair is given a chance to thrive w/o all the styling stress you'd otherwise put on it. You can see what the weaves she does look like here: http://www.reniece.com/portfolio.html
And you can see how Reniece herself has been able to grow a healthy head of hair using this method: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCg_VZU9g0Q
I wear braid extensions which I do myself and so I'm careful not to put more hair than my head can bear. I basically use less hair per braid section of my own hair, and I never use hair that is more than just a few inches longer than my own so I don't give my scalp the shock of bearing too much more weight than I'm used to. I've not had any problems doing my own braid extension. Here's a photo of some I did:
So the secret is just to find someone who actually understands and cares about hair health, and you should have good success with extension. I don't think anyone should use glue on the scalp. You can see what that did to Naomi Campbell's hairline:
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Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:01 am |
Is it possible to get just a few extensions. Maybe half of what a person would normally get? It would help with cost and also less damage..or no? |
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Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:41 am |
I went to a salon for a hair cut but they refused to cut it as it is very long and silky. But the only problem with my hair is that it is freezy. She suggested to me to put oil regularly but I just don't want to do that. Any other suggestion from your side would be appreciated... |
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Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:37 pm |
momtofive wrote: |
Is it possible to get just a few extensions. Maybe half of what a person would normally get? It would help with cost and also less damage..or no? |
Yes, momtofive this is possible which is why I was saying that it's best if you find someone who cares and understands the risks. When I do braid extensions I use less than 2 packs of the braiding extension hair. I know people who use as many as 4-6 packs. It could be they waste a lot of the hair too, but I honestly don't see a need for much more than 2 packs of hair on a head. My hair doesn't look sparse or "thin" when I use less than 2 packs but I clearly have my own head and hair's health in mind hence the care I take.
In one of the links I posted, there were before/after images of women who got partial weaves. That means some of their hair is left out and the weave hair is only covering part of their head. Here's the direct link to partial weaves: http://www.reniece.com/EZ-PhotoAlbum/Partial/index.html
The front may be the person's own hair and then the fullness in the back is from the additional weave extensions. |
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Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:56 pm |
Annas wrote: |
I went to a salon for a hair cut but they refused to cut it as it is very long and silky. But the only problem with my hair is that it is freezy. She suggested to me to put oil regularly but I just don't want to do that. Any other suggestion from your side would be appreciated... |
Annas, I don't know why they suggested an oil when a serum would work even better. John Frieda Frizz Ease line has products that help minimize frizz. You basically apply the gel-like product to damp hair and let your hair airdry, or you can use the thermal protection kind if you want to use heat to set your hair. It'll be smooth and shiny w/o frizz and best of all, no greasy, slick/oily, sticky feeling but hair just feels clean and smooth. The appearance is beautiful as well.
Here are examples of results one can get from the John Frieda line.
http://butterflydiary.com/2009/11/john-frieda-frizz-ease-secret-weapon-beforeafter/
http://amazaballs.blogspot.com/2011/04/review-john-frieda-frizz-ease-3-day.html
My hair is natually kinky and doesn't have much of a shine. If I straighten it, I can get it to reflect light better but without John Frieda Frizz Ease serum, it'd poof up the minute humidity got into it and I'd have an afro in no time. But I use the line when I straighten my hair and the results are smooth, frizz-free hair:
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Fri Dec 02, 2011 10:59 pm |
Nonie aka AD wrote: |
Ottawa Shopper wrote: |
Ava with wings wrote: |
I strongly advise against hair extensions of any kind and work on improving the health of your real hair. The stress of hair extensions of any kinds are disasterous to the hair follicles, they just can't withstand carrying the weight of three heads of hair on them. If you must get them, I recommend against the bonded ones. Clip ins only, and sparingly. Just my two cents. |
Well, what if your hair is healthy and just not very thick anymore?
I actually lost about 50% of the thickness of my hair a few years ago due to some health issues.
My hair still looks nice- in great condition, but I can not grow my hair very long as it is very fine on the ends.
I have my hair layered so it looks a bit thicker, so that does help.
But I can't wear bangs because they are much too fine- I cal only style my front hair off to the side.
So, for me I would love to get some kind of extensions again.
Just have not had time to look into it lately. |
Ottawa Shopper you say the ends are fine, are your roots thick?
I ask because whenever I hear people talking of fine ends, I suspect it's from wear and tear and splits. The ends are the oldest parts of your hair and the longer you hold onto them, the more time the elements, styling, etc have to tear down the cuticle. I find regular dusting (that is trimming very little) every 8 weeks help to keep my ends nice and thick and it wasn't until I started to do this that I sa my hair grow beyond 5-6 inches. For over 30 years, I thought that is all my hair could achieve.
Next I wondered if you've heard of sewn-in weaves. Not everyone does them with the health of the hair in mind but there's a stylist in MD, Reniece, who is not cheap but whose appointment sheet is filled for years at a time because she really does nurture your hair back to health while you sport a beautiful mane of hair that isn't yours. She teaches you how to care for you hair that is braided and kept "safe" from everyday manipulation. At this link are before/after photos showing how the weaves helped improve the condition of her clients' hair: http://www.reniece.com/healthyhair.html
And at this next link, you can see how the weaves look. Basically your hair is braided and the hair sewn onto the braids. Because Reniece is so good at what she does, there's hardly any strain on your own hair and your own hair is given a chance to thrive w/o all the styling stress you'd otherwise put on it. You can see what the weaves she does look like here: http://www.reniece.com/portfolio.html
And you can see how Reniece herself has been able to grow a healthy head of hair using this method: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCg_VZU9g0Q
I wear braid extensions which I do myself and so I'm careful not to put more hair than my head can bear. I basically use less hair per braid section of my own hair, and I never use hair that is more than just a few inches longer than my own so I don't give my scalp the shock of bearing too much more weight than I'm used to. I've not had any problems doing my own braid extension. Here's a photo of some I did:
So the secret is just to find someone who actually understands and cares about hair health, and you should have good success with extension. I don't think anyone should use glue on the scalp. You can see what that did to Naomi Campbell's hairline:
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My hair roots are fine now too- before they were not (I'd say for the past 10 years they have been).
I have no split ends or damage also.
I also do not think I can get away w the braided look (not for a "white" person anyways),
I see people here who have braids, but I will try and look into partial extensions. |
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Sat Dec 03, 2011 12:12 am |
Ottawa Shopper wrote: |
My hair roots are fine now too- before they were not (I'd say for the past 10 years they have been).
I have no split ends or damage also.
I also do not think I can get away w the braided look (not for a "white" person anyways),
I see people here who have braids, but I will try and look into partial extensions. |
I wasn't suggesting braids. Just sharing that those are the sort of extensions I get and that to ensure no damage I use less additional hair per section of my own.
Ottawa Shopper Is your hair thinning hormonal?www.add-hair.com has natural supplements/remedies and suggestions that can help thicken hair. Also Dr Pickart (www.skinbio.com) has done a lot of research in the field of hair and regrowth/thickening so many his tips/suggestions can help.
Weaves that I suggested don't look like braids. Your own hair is braided in rows underneath and the additional hair sewn in and left loose so you can comb it and it looks like it's your own hair.
The white girl in the second row on this page had a weave sewn in: http://www.reniece.com/EZ-PhotoAlbum/BandA/index.html (There are more white girls in later pages, and you don't have to get a full weave; you can get it on only part of your hair and you own hair blended in.)
Check out this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ph2rjsl5co&feature=fvsr
And if you want to see the technique, here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JODEHkCi4JE&feature=related |
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