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KCProf
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Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:37 pm |
Yesterday, I received a full face ultherapy treatment. The treatment included 5 nerve blocking injections. Today, I have significant swelling in the jowl, neck and nasolabial fold areas. Has anyone else had this experience and if so, when did the swelling subside? Also, were you pleased with your results? Thank you. |
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Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:31 am |
You should check your reaction with the dermatologist who performed your treatment: really they should have gone through risks and aftercare with you before taking your money. |
_________________ Sensitivity, forehead pigmentation & elevens, nose & chin clogged pores. Topicals: Aloe vera, squalane, lactic acid, Myfawnie KinNiaNag HG: Weleda calendula, Lanolips, Guinot masque essentiel, Flexitol Naturals, Careprost. Gadgets: Vaughter dermarollers, Lightstim. |
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KCProf
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Wed Jan 04, 2012 6:26 am |
I was informed of the possibility of mild swelling for a week or so, but was just not prepared for this much. Have you had Ultherapy treatment? |
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Wed Jan 04, 2012 6:30 am |
No I have not, I responded because my work background is healthcare. Really if the reaction does not seem normal to you, it is important to contact your dermatologist - this should be part of the aftercare service. They may be able to advise on topical agents or oral medication that is safe to use to reduce the swelling. They can also add any reaction they find unusual to your notes, in order to treat you safely on a future occasion. |
_________________ Sensitivity, forehead pigmentation & elevens, nose & chin clogged pores. Topicals: Aloe vera, squalane, lactic acid, Myfawnie KinNiaNag HG: Weleda calendula, Lanolips, Guinot masque essentiel, Flexitol Naturals, Careprost. Gadgets: Vaughter dermarollers, Lightstim. |
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Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:57 pm |
I am going through similar after my radio frequency treatment a week ago. One side is more swollen so I'm telling everyone I have a sinus infection. The rest of the puffiness I say is due to my pigging out on holiday treats, which is partially true, actually. I blame myself because I didn't bother using icepacks on my face afterward. I'll give it another week. |
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Thu Jan 05, 2012 3:39 am |
It's extremely common to have swelling after a laser treatment. Some people are more prone to it than others (I'm a sweller!) Try sleeping with your head elevated. |
_________________ Born 1950. There's a new cream on the market that gets rid of wrinkles - you smear it on the mirror!! |
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KCProf
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Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:05 am |
Firefox, thank you for your professional opinion. I have decided that if the swelling is no better by Monday, I will call the office. I am being pretty diligent with ice packs. Softskin, you are so funny! My sister told me to tell people the same thing: that I ate too much holiday pie! My swollen face makes me look like I gained 30lbs!! I facetimed my sister and she was surprised, but we had a good hardy laugh about it, which in itself is good medicine. However, it won't be as funny if I still look 30lbs overweight next week! I wonder what factors influence one's tendency to be a sweller? |
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Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:19 am |
I had amazing swelling..shockingly so after a treatment where I was told.."mild swelling" it was alarming and inconsiderate on the doctor's part. I've never gone back...I think he is an ass. You are there because your face and looks matter to you.. you think they'd prepare you. Mine was so swollen, I panicked and was fearful.
To share what I now know..Use arnica cream or gel if you can get someone to get it for you. I'd take an anti inflammatory too..and keep with cold cloths on your face. In fact they should have had you taking arnica pills a week before and given you a tube of gel on the front end. You can buy arnica pills and gel at Whole Body...and health food stores.
Do the public a favor and express your displeasure with the lack of consideration to the doctor's office. I have heard great things about this procedure..please keep us posted on your progress. |
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KCProf
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Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:38 am |
Thank you for your understanding and empathy. I feel relief to talk to someone who has has the same procedure. Can you please tell me how long your swelling lasted?
Thanks for pointing me in the direction of products that might help.
Anything you could tell me about your Ultherapy, healing time, and result would be greatly appreciated. When did you have the treatment? |
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Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:01 am |
I would not recommend an anti-inflammatory drug except on medical advice; research suggests these can actually delay healing. These are most useful when inflammation is so great that it damages surrounding tissue or impedes normal function of the tissue.
I understand people mean to be helpful but IMO you are being irresponsible. OP please contact your derm and get professional advice. |
_________________ Sensitivity, forehead pigmentation & elevens, nose & chin clogged pores. Topicals: Aloe vera, squalane, lactic acid, Myfawnie KinNiaNag HG: Weleda calendula, Lanolips, Guinot masque essentiel, Flexitol Naturals, Careprost. Gadgets: Vaughter dermarollers, Lightstim. |
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Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:55 am |
To the poster.. I did not have ultherapy..It was another laser treatment where my face ballooned up. I know Realself.com has reviews with others who have had ultherapy..check those out.
Now to FF? I am not being irresponsible.. I'm sharing my experience...which is what we all do on this forum. I think we all realize we are not doctors here.
In fact.. the issue in the post is that "medical" experts who administered this procedure failed this woman in proper aftercare.. so why you encourage her to call back to rely solely on them...puzzles me. In her experience..and mine..the medical "experts" are the ones who were irresponsible in not preparing patients and giving them tools to help with potential side effects.
With that said, I remember calling my doctor and his condescending attitude on the phone..telling me it all would pass..blah blah blah.
It was his nurse that told me to take an anti inflammatory every four to 8 hours and it did help. Perhaps you MAY be right that it delayed my healing... I don't know..I'm not a doctor..it seemed to make sense and help....that is why I mentioned that. |
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Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:25 pm |
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Now to FF? I am not being irresponsible.. I'm sharing my experience...which is what we all do on this forum. I think we all realize we are not doctors here.
In fact.. the issue in the post is that "medical" experts who administered this procedure failed this woman in proper aftercare.. so why you encourage her to call back to rely solely on them...puzzles me. In her experience..and mine..the medical "experts" are the ones who were irresponsible in not preparing patients and giving them tools to help with potential side effects.
It was his nurse that told me to take an anti inflammatory every four to 8 hours and it did help. Perhaps you MAY be right that it delayed my healing... I don't know..I'm not a doctor..it seemed to make sense and help....that is why I mentioned that. |
You might have recommended the OP consult with a pharmacist, the derm's nurse, their family doctor or another dermatologist. I qualified "except on medical advice" which you had, based on the level of swelling you experienced. "I'd take an anti inflammatory too" is not sharing your experience, it is making a recommendation without understanding the implications. I have no wish to pick a fight because I know your intentions are genuine and your experiences valuable; it is your phraseology that I felt irresponsible, you may feel mine are likewise and that is your prerogative. |
_________________ Sensitivity, forehead pigmentation & elevens, nose & chin clogged pores. Topicals: Aloe vera, squalane, lactic acid, Myfawnie KinNiaNag HG: Weleda calendula, Lanolips, Guinot masque essentiel, Flexitol Naturals, Careprost. Gadgets: Vaughter dermarollers, Lightstim. |
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Thu Jan 05, 2012 2:22 pm |
I just have to be the voice of reason here: Firstly, I think it's ridiculous to have an intensive, painful procedure like this and to not expect some kind of swelling. I have had one Thermage, one Pearl laser and numerous IPLs - my face has always swelled up like a balloon, regardless of all the ice packs I applied afterwards. People seem to think they're going to have these types of treatments and walk out of the clinic "transformed". It just doesn't work that way. The swelling is an indication of the "injuring" of the dermis - which will stimulate new collagen growth. But this won't be evident for months down the track. For this reason, I wouldn't go taking an anti-inflammatory.
KCProf - you were told to expect some swelling, and that's what you've got. As I said in my previous post, some people swell more than others. My daughter has had similar treatments to me and she doesn't swell up as much as I do. I don't know why this is.
Obviously, if you are in any way worried about your procedure, contact the doctor's clinic and I'm sure they will reassure you that everything is fine. Arnica may help (it doesn't do much for me) but it is best started before the treatment. |
_________________ Born 1950. There's a new cream on the market that gets rid of wrinkles - you smear it on the mirror!! |
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Thu Jan 05, 2012 2:27 pm |
Omg FF/hdg, too funny. Well, she MIGHT have but she didn't! EDS has a disclaimer here: http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/terms.php so its not necessary.
This is the type of forum where everyone is encouraged to share their opinions and they aren't strict about how. I don't see them changing that anytime soon since it seems to be pretty successful as is! Most of us try not to criticize or at least be polite when doing so, another reason why the forum is successful.
If EDS intended for there to be qualified/trusted advisors here, they'd select some and give them authoritative status so we can identify them, seperate from those who are just playing the role of one on a public message board, and then there'd probably be rules about how they can advise. Not to say that there aren't many medical, skincare and other experts who post here, but its somewhat useless to mention the fact... given that we're all aware when we post here that its just a public forum where we can claim anything we want. So as I understand all opinions here are welcome! |
_________________ Olive, normal/oily skin. Using rinse-off ocm, Vit C, Tretinoin since Nov/10, GHK since Feb/12, Niacinamide & glucosamine, alternating, & now skipping nights! Concerns include oiliness, hyperpigmentation from occasional zits, 11's & nasolabial folds. |
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Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:45 pm |
Hey..y'all.. of course this is silly and off point and I don't like being involved in negative banter..I was just responding to the poster's sincere question with my experience just like I do all the time on EDS.
I come here to have fun and learn.. and that I do and that I have. lol..
Now...getting back on track, one thing that the poster should be glad of..is that they gave her nerve blocks. On complaint I've read about ultherpay on real-self.com is that the procedure is way more painful than expected. I bet she ends up with a great result. can't wait to hear all about the outcome. |
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Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:50 pm |
hotdocgirl wrote: |
Now...getting back on track, one thing that the poster should be glad of..is that they gave her nerve blocks. On complaint I've read about ultherpay on real-self.com is that the procedure is way more painful than expected. I bet she ends up with a great result. can't wait to hear all about the outcome. |
Yes, I've never been given a nerve block - only ever had anesthetic cream. Am also interested to see if KC gets any lifting and tightening.
ETA: Just wanted to add that I don't particularly like realself.com - it's full of whingers who expected to have a laser treatment and walk out the door looking like Cameron Diaz!! Not many seem to realise that it IS painful and that you will probably look like you've been hit by a bus afterwards. But lasers are also a case of "no pain, no gain" and real results can take a while to show up. |
_________________ Born 1950. There's a new cream on the market that gets rid of wrinkles - you smear it on the mirror!! |
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Thu Jan 05, 2012 5:02 pm |
K ..true..I find overall..most people are more apt to post a complaint than praise.
This forum is one of the few where I don't feel like that happens too much...maybe because a lot of us are pretty seasoned and opened minded about skincare.
But on realself.. many post right away their complaints the day after .. and never come back and update. Most laser and topical treatments take months to take hold. So on real-self..I keep that in mind ..but I still go there to see what people are saying. |
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Thu Jan 05, 2012 5:21 pm |
This is me straight after the Pearl Laser (the swelling had not kicked in at this point).
This is me about ten days later (also had my cheeks filled!)
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_________________ Born 1950. There's a new cream on the market that gets rid of wrinkles - you smear it on the mirror!! |
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Thu Jan 05, 2012 5:47 pm |
Keliu wrote: |
This is me straight after the Pearl Laser (the swelling had not kicked in at this point).
This is me about ten days later (also had my cheeks filled!)
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So now I know why products don't work on your skin - you don't need any help! You looks great, Keliu! |
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Thu Jan 05, 2012 5:59 pm |
Keliu wrote: |
This is me straight after the Pearl Laser (the swelling had not kicked in at this point).
This is me about ten days later (also had my cheeks filled!)
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You are absolutely beautiful!!! |
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KCProf
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Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:15 pm |
I sure didn't mean to stir up a hornet's nest. Sorry, girls. You are right that I should have expected more pain and swelling in that my dermis was being "injured"; I was just unprepared to swell so much, and just wanted to see if anyone else had had a similar experience. I am actually getting some relief tonight, not alot, but some.
I will keep you posted and let you know if I notice any difference over the course of the next 2-3 mos.
Regarding the nerve blocks: They were the worst part, but I am a needle-phobe. They really creeped me out and HURT! But, there was little to no discomfort during the procedure. IF I get a significant improvement in skin laxity, I would seriously consider doing this again, but will no doubt need xanax to get thru the nerve blocks.
Thank you all for your replies. |
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KCProf
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Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:16 pm |
PS: Keliu, you are beautiful!! |
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Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:38 pm |
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So now I know why products don't work on your skin - you don't need any help! You looks great, Keliu! |
That was two years ago - time has again marched on and it just gets harder and harder. Maybe I should talk myself into another treatment! I'm interested to see if KC gets any lifting because it's my jowls that are my worse thing. |
_________________ Born 1950. There's a new cream on the market that gets rid of wrinkles - you smear it on the mirror!! |
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Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:25 pm |
Keliu wrote: |
That was two years ago - time has again marched on and it just gets harder and harder. Maybe I should talk myself into another treatment! I'm interested to see if KC gets any lifting because it's my jowls that are my worse thing. |
I still think you're gorgeous and your skin looks fantastic. |
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Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:46 pm |
I agree...she looks great..nice even skin..glows. |
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