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Mon Jan 31, 2005 4:40 am |
Can anyone recommend a microdermabrasion product that is available on this site. Not many of the international ones deliver to the U.K. Read that Dr Brandt was good but its discontinued. Just my look Does anyone have any other suggestions??? |
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Mon Jan 31, 2005 8:37 am |
Epidermx is a great one. |
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Mon Jan 31, 2005 1:17 pm |
someone posted in the review forum that the Avon one is good! I read about it on makeupalley and want to try it now too |
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Sun Feb 20, 2005 1:10 am |
I second the vote on Epidermx. It's helped me Very Much. I noticed today when I was reordering, they have some new before and after pics up showing how well it works for some customers for acne scars, hyperpig., pore size etc...
To see them click on the before and after tab at:www.Epidermx.com
-Danielle
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Sun Feb 20, 2005 3:10 am |
I was given the Dermanew set for Xmas and I see that it is available here too ... I absolutely LOVE it. It does make a difference and I recommend that one highly! |
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Sun Feb 20, 2005 6:23 am |
I have been using the avon micro exfoliater for a few weeks now and my skin is clear and glowing...You can get it cheap on Ebay too! |
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Sun Feb 20, 2005 7:14 am |
I also use Epidermx and camellia oil right after it. I love it. My skin feels smooth and soft. |
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Sun Feb 20, 2005 7:44 am |
I gave my 36 year old daughter my Epidermx. She started breaking out some. Her skin was looking really dull. She absolutely loves it. Her slight acne is clearing up and skintone looks 100% better.
I can't use the product because of tendency to facial spider veins. For people with a condition like mine I don't think microderm. products should be used. |
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Sun Feb 20, 2005 7:02 pm |
Philosophy's Microdelivery Peel gets lots of good reviews on Makeup Alley and it's available on ebay too. |
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jyllian
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Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:47 pm |
I made the mistake of staying at home and watching TV one day a couple of weeks ago and I ended up buying a personal microdermabrasion kit hawked by Susan Lucci and developed by a husband-wife team named Dean and Amby Rhoades. Anyway, it's kind of a high-maintenance thing, with a vibrator applicator and sponges that you dip into the cream-with-crystals. I've been using it for two days now (you're supposed to use it for 5-7 days initially, then skip 5 days, then use 2-4 times a week for maintenance) and it truly has made a difference -- my skin tone is great and my skin is smooth. The kit comes with four unguents: a gel cleanser, the crystal cream, a spray toner and a rich moisturizer SPF 15, to be used in that order. The part I don't like -- aside from having all the parts and the maintenance of cleaning the sponge applicators -- is that it's hard to wash the crystal cream off after you've done the 2-5 minutes of sanding and buffing. My face always feels gritty. Overall, the treatment does do the trick, but it's kind of a racket -- you are basically signed up to a montly charge and a membership in Ms. Lucci's "club." And I'm wondering if any sort of daily microdermabrasion such as the Avon or Dr. Brandt treatments others have mentioned would do the same without having to be chained to a monthly fee! (Pretty foolish am I for succumbing to a morning infomercial... ...but my skin looks pretty good at least ) |
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Mon Feb 21, 2005 12:24 pm |
I've been using the Avon one for a couple of weeks and really like it. I love the way my skin feels afterwards, and it doesn't seem to be too harsh and overwhelming for my sensitive skin. |
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Mon Feb 21, 2005 3:43 pm |
I've been using Epidermx (actually searching about this product is how I found this forum) and I've been happy with my results. My skin always feels softer after using it.
I was having sporadic breakouts and this seems to have stopped that (other than the once a month hormonal ones and even they have been reduced). When I was a teenager my mother used to say the breakouts would stop when I was grown....she was wrong Or maybe I never grew up
BTW, I'm 35 with normal to combo skin.
HTH,
Stephanie |
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Mon Feb 21, 2005 4:47 pm |
I have used a microderm system from Beauty Control that I think is somewhat like Susan Lucci's, except that hers looks like it's a flat surface on the little wheel thingy and mine is a round brush with rows of bristles around the circle.
I do understand your comments about it being difficult to wash off the crystals and about the face feeling gritty. I have found that I have to be in a top that I don't mind getting soaked and then I keep splashing water on my face until I no longer feel the crystals. The water runs down my elbows, etc and it's kindof a mess. BUT, it's worth all that because after use of the microderm, my face feels the smoothest it every feels and it has completely lost that dull look.
I've planned to do the microderm right before a shower and just let the water run over my face until it's no longer gritty, but naturally that has to be done when I'm also ready to wash my hair.
So, the fact is that you save LOTS of money when you do it at home and I believe you get a comparable result. However, the money savings means that you sacrifice convenience.
That's the way it usually is when you do any at home version of a spa treatment. One of the things that you are paying for is the convenience of just lying back and having it all done for you.
That's like my choice between coloring my own hair or having it done in the salon. Years ago, I decided I would never put up with doing it myself again and I always have it done at the salon and pay whatever I have to.
With the microderm, the result is so comparable and for now, I'll definitely put up with the inconvenience and continue to do it myself at home.
I do have a question about Epidermx. Is it applied with an applicator or just with the hands?
JUDY |
_________________ Looking young never grows old! |
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Mon Feb 21, 2005 4:57 pm |
Epidermx requires only gentle circular finger tip application. |
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Mon Feb 21, 2005 8:06 pm |
I really like that battery operated brush that I got from Beauticontrol. When I use it, my skin feels silky smooth.
The brush is round, about the size of a silver dollar, and the brush rotates when you turn it on.
Only thing is you have to be careful not to pull it away from the face while it's still on or it might spray the liquified crystal stuff. I just "try" to remember to switch it off if I am moving from one area of the face to another.
This brush is kinda soft and flexible. When I saw the Susan Lucci infomercial, it looked like that was sort of a "buffpuff" flat head that rotated. That would seem too abrasive to me. Of course, I don't know, never having tried it.
JUDY
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jyllian
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Tue Feb 22, 2005 12:17 am |
Whoops, ladies, sorry, I took a little break for President's Day...The Susan Lucci vibrator has a snap-on head (wow, this is sounding worse and worse )with a very soft sponge applicator. I just was flipping through the February issue of Allure magazine and noticed that the new Neutrogena at-home microdermabrasion kit vibrator and snap-on sponge applicators looks exactly like what I got in the Susan Lucci kit. The sponges are very fine-bore and dense, so extremely soft. It's the crystals that do all the work while the soft sponge vibrates. You have to snap off and wash the sponge after every application (the crystal cream comes off easily though with soap) and then let the sponge dry before you can use it again (the kit comes with two face applicators and one large body applicator, so if you're in a humid climate, you can alternate applicators while you let the other dry). The grittiness, I have to say, drives me nuts, so I think I'm going to eventually take the kind suggestions of others who have recommended Epidermx and other less gritty types. I'm cleaning sandy grit out of my nostrils for hours afterwards. And I guess maybe my skin is a little more sensitive than I thought, because I think the reason the grittiness bugs me so much is that I really feel the fact that the top layer of epidermis is gone ... and the grains irritate just a little. This morning I did take a shower and that did help, but yes, it has to be a shower where you planned to wash your hair (otherwise, you can't get your forehead clean or -- in my case -- you get crystals in your eyes -- yowch!) Also, the Susan Lucci cream does leave my skin feeling soft but also a little waxy, like a soft paraffin, which I don't like. Feels fake, like I've melted a candle over myself. However, that said, my whole upper face (eyes, forehead) look a lot more even-toned and of course it is taking off the upper layer of epidermis, so everything does look lighter and brighter. I'll follow the directions as recommended for the full week and then re-evaluate from there...(Also, I haven't price-compared anything but a 60 day supply of crystal cream, toner and SPF moisturizer, plus all the exhausting hardware that comes with the Susan Lucci kit was about $49.95 USD...don't know how that measures up against other microdermabrasion alternatives). |
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Tue Feb 22, 2005 2:37 pm |
I know the jar of Epidermx is only 44.95 on the site where I get it...I believe a couple of others (including the manufacturer site) sells it for 59 dollars. I always get a free sample of the silkia oil on the site where I order, that I wind up giving away to friends cause I wound up buying a bottle after I tried it the first time. I use it daily around the eyes and follow up the Epidermx treatments with it. I've found it has literally fluffed up old acne scar pits over the months, and they say it does similar things for wrinkles but I'm a bit too young to get those yet...I also use it on my hair which has made the ends that have felt like straw (since I did a hair show and got it dyed) feel normal and shiny again. I don't know if brands matter too much with the camellia oil, but this one is cold pressed and organic and all that...but I couldn't find any at the health food store-which I thought was odd... so I just buy it at epidermx.com ...pretty cheap anyway considering it lasts a LOOOOONG time.
Is anyone else in California getting rained on non stop?!!! This is crazy! I moved here from Seattle for this!!!
-D |
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Tue Feb 22, 2005 2:59 pm |
oh and I forgot to mention about those plastic tools...I've never heard of the one with bristles but the one that's the sponge (a few of them use sponges - Derma New is one)...you've got to be careful because those can grow bacteria like CRAZY! They're just a breeding ground for it...I think it would be a bad idea to put nasty bacteria into freshly microdermabraded skin, you might want to soak them in hydrogen peroxide to make sure you completely kill them... |
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Tue Feb 22, 2005 3:20 pm |
Cindi i heard that the Avon one is good. And sometimes when on offer you can get if for £8. I should know being a rep. And have just ordered myself one. |
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Tue Feb 22, 2005 4:18 pm |
lenny9, how could oyu be a rep for Avon and then go and buy a full range of another brand.... |
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Tue Feb 22, 2005 5:39 pm |
I understood lenny9 to say she was an Avon rep and had ordered the Avon product, but I could be wrong. It's happened once or twice before.
JUDY |
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Tue Feb 22, 2005 10:06 pm |
Hi Cindi, (not Lenny9 though I'm afraid!) Just wanted to share my experience with being in a similar situation...
Being a rep for a company that is a direct selling company is not a legally binding thing and they only get a certain percentage discount on products. I've been a Nutrimetics consultant on and off for 10 years( same deal...different company in Australia!) and you get a discount depending on volume ...so yes it's a bit cheaper, but doesn't everyone get bored using the same things?! I do! I did it seriously for a time but now just get things casually if I want them. I have my own manufacturing business in a completely different industry now so I just dont have the time.
It's like working for any manufacturing/marketing company, you don't feel restricted to only use their products and nothing else. No one company has everything that one needs! ( or feels like trying)
You need product knowledge and if you are able to give first hand accounts to customers of your own experiences with a product, that's great but it would be unrealistic to expect someone who is ( depending on where they are within the organisation...) doing it for extra money for their families to use nothing else!
Believe me, the discounts are not THAT huge unless you have a zillion people in your own sales team. My best friend has been an Avon lady for years and tells me all about it. (pity!) Lenny9 might be in the same situation... dunno, but just thought it might be interesting to share.
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Wed Feb 23, 2005 12:42 pm |
I have been a Avonrep for over 18 years. I mainly do it fo rthe commission. As it pays for our holidays. I love most of the Avon products, but i have yet to find one of their skin care regiems to suit me. So that's why i went for the Md formulstions.
I always wear there make-up, body creams, shower gels, hair care.
I find it reasoniably priced as well.
Even buy their underwear now.
But skin care not quite there for me yet.
As for customers most of them know what they like. I never give out advice about there products. I just give my customers a book and call back for the order. All my customers know that if they do not like a product then it is fully refundable. If they order underware then i advise them to order 2 sizes just to try. No i don't make a lot of money. But then again i do not put a lot of time into it.
1 night bagging up delivery
1 night delivering orders
1 night collecting them in
1 night putting the orders on the internet
1 night colecting stragglers of orders
Then it all starts again next campaign.All commission is put towards holidays for us. Hubby even helps out. |
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Thu Feb 24, 2005 2:49 am |
Hi Lenny9, Fun isnt it? The people part is nice though... that is a perk in most cases I think! Bookwork and packing are always the boring side.
Good for you .... that's great to have your hubby involved too and your family would definitely thank you at holiday times!
I found ( in my case..) a huge difference when the internet became available to do ordering online, so much easier than all the written order forms! |
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Thu Feb 24, 2005 12:15 pm |
Ordering on line is much easier and you get a extra 2 days before your order has to go of. |
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