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Fri Jan 27, 2012 4:17 am  |
Hi, Does anyone have a recipe and method for making a Clear Vit C and Ferulic Acid Serum?
I've tried a few and it comes out milky white every time.
I'm also wondering about a product called Sea Emollient. What does this add to my serum and again are there any recipes and ways I should add this to existing recipes? I've heard someone say it makes the solution silkier, does this mean thicker or greasier maybe? |
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Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:18 am |
| Many serum recipes will be opaque because they include both liquid and oily ingredients, they are basically a very dilute lotion. You could only use the water/ alcohol based ingredients, but those tend to be drying. |
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Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:35 am |
I have made a number of C serum; as long as I don't put oil + sea kelp /emulsifier (that is, only LAA + ferulic), the serum is clear.
If you want a clear serum, you may purchase it from Lotioncrafter.
http://www.lotioncrafter.com/c-e-with-ferulic-acid-kit.html
The steps of making the serum is in the tag of Formulary.
I have not purchased the kit & am not sure if it is as clear as water. |
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Sat Jan 28, 2012 3:39 am |
I don't think you can keep it clear as long as you put the ferulic acid in it.
Why does it have to be clear, anyway? |
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Sat Jan 28, 2012 8:09 am |
| Chiqui65 wrote: |
I don't think you can keep it clear as long as you put the ferulic acid in it.
Why does it have to be clear, anyway? |
Yes, it is clear if you don't put oil & emulsifier in the serum. |
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Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:41 am |
| summer2004 wrote: |
| Chiqui65 wrote: |
I don't think you can keep it clear as long as you put the ferulic acid in it.
Why does it have to be clear, anyway? |
Yes, it is clear if you don't put oil & emulsifier in the serum. |
I've been using a clear one from Skin Beauty solutions and I was just curious as to whether I could make the same.
Is it possible to add vitamin E without using an oil and are all emulsifier the same eg Polysorbate 80 or does the milky mixture only happen when mixed with oil? |
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Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:46 pm |
| soapwood wrote: |
I've been using a clear one from Skin Beauty solutions and I was just curious as to whether I could make the same.
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If I found the right website and if the ingredient list is complete, their serum only contains the following ingredients:
L-ascorbic acid, Hyaluronic Acid, deionized water, potassium sorbate, and citric acid.
So, no FA or Vitamin E or emulsifier. If you want to mimic it, I think you should try to keep as close to these ingredients as you can. |
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Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:54 pm |
The product I have which is clear is Ferulic Acid C & E serum by Skin Beauty solutions. the emulsifier in it is ceteareth 20 or at least I think thats the emulsifier.
I suppose what I'm wondering is whether the Polysorbate 80 is the milky factor or the wheatgerm oil. |
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Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:10 pm |
You could try it out by adding them one by one.  Perhaps with a very small quantity of the serum.
But frankly, I would not worry too much about the milky aspect. The active ingredients are what counts. |
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Sun Jan 29, 2012 5:32 pm |
| soapwood wrote: |
I've been using a clear one from Skin Beauty solutions and I was just curious as to whether I could make the same.
Is it possible to add vitamin E without using an oil and are all emulsifier the same eg Polysorbate 80 or does the milky mixture only happen when mixed with oil?
The product I have which is clear is Ferulic Acid C & E serum by Skin Beauty solutions. the emulsifier in it is ceteareth 20 or at least I think thats the emulsifier.
I suppose what I'm wondering is whether the Polysorbate 80 is the milky factor or the wheatgerm oil. |
Not meaning to be rude, but it's really difficult to help when you are so vague. Which DIY recipe(s) have you tried, including ingredients and amounts? what is the full ingredient list of the serum you are trying to replicate? Why does it matter to you whether the serum is clear or milky if the actives are the same?
It is the combination that makes the product milky: the emulsifier is what holds the oil droplets in the water base - emulsions/ lotions are opaque. You can't use an oil without an emulsifier and you don't need an emulsifier if you don't include an oil, so it doesn't matter which is the culprit. E is an oil-soluble vitamin like A and D so you cannot use E without it being in an oil base, how much is also relevant because a teeny tiny amount of oil probably won't make the serum milky. On the website it says the commercial product contains 1% tocopherols (vitamin E). |
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