Facial massage, pinching, pulling, dry brushing, etc...???
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free skin care · Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:51 am

There is so much to learn on this sight. Right now I am most interested in information on facial exercise. But I keep reading lots of posts about how doing them along with either facial massage, dry brushing and pulling/tugging the skin helps to make the skin either thicker or firmer.

Does anyone find any one of these techniques is better at firming/thickening the skin than another? Is it even more beneficial to do maybe a the skin tugs and use a gentle brushing, or would that be too much and unnecessary?

Also, with Ageless If We Dare, I do the whole program 3 times a week. If I add the massage at the end, am I supposed to do it just after the times I exercise or daily? Same with skin brushing: 2-3 times a week or daily?

free skin care · Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:29 am

Firming the skin and thickening the skin whilst they appear similar are actually different things. I’m a trainer at FlexEffect (where Lou used to be a trainer also) but am also a qualified masseur and would say without doubt massage thickens the skin and firms it too. Dry brushing can thicken the skin, but that’s not its primary purpose which is to increase the circulation and exfoliate dead cells off the surface of the skin and to improve lymphatic movement. Pulling/tugging is often construed to be massage, and it’s a very small part of it, but I think you’ll be much better in using both the exercises and doing a facial massage.

Now I’d guess that you can do the massage anytime. I know Louise used to say that she often didn’t do massage as would forget, and many of her exercises incorporate massage style movements in so you do kind of achieve two things at once, and I’m not sure its necessary to do it straight after exercising, but if you can then that’s great, but if you can’t don’t loose sleep over it, do it when you can. Like most things the important thing is aka the Nike advert i.e. to just do it.

With dry brushing, start out much more slowly and notice how your skin responds. I’d start out once or twice a week, and then gradually increase the number of sessions. Ideally you want to work on eventually doing dry brushing daily!

free skin care · Wed Feb 01, 2012 7:37 am

Thanks so much, Sean!

So, if massage does thicken and firm the skin, is this why Carole Maggio's No Lipo Lipo works to lift and tighten the skin. Would simply massaging the skin on the abdomen have any effect on tightening up loose skin there?

I'm in the process of losing weight (have lost 45 pounds so far, with 40 more to go). I notice that the closer I get to my goal weight, the more loose, crepey skin seems to be forming on my abdominal area. Yuck! Exercise can only do so much and a tummy tuck is out of the question for financial reasons. So I've been wondering if doing a massage in this area would benefit it at all.

free skin care · Wed Feb 01, 2012 7:42 am

I think like most things it’s a very misunderstood tool to use (massage) in that it works amazing feats in conjunction with things like healthy eating etc. If the diet is extremely poor and lacking in nutrients, then the skin already is very challenged, so when someone loses a lot of weight they often do so be restricting calories etc but in doing so they often neglect things that hold vitamins/minerals and would be beneficial. So to me when I hear someone talking about skin looseness, its always a place I start looking at first because skin will always show you whats happening with a person internally. So if you’re noticing loose crepy skin on your abdominal area then massage is a great tool to use BUT in conjunction with eating healthily too. Even Carole’s No Lipo Lipo technique utilises dry brushing and massage together but she also has some specific recommendations with supplements to really help people make sure they’re getting the full range of nutrients they need to have healthy skin.

free skin care · Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:29 am

So true about the nutrition part of it. I try my best to eat healthy foods and take my vitamins. But I think a big part of the looseness and crepey skin is due to losing and gaining large amounts of weight over the last 33 years, having had 2 kids and being older. Plus, our whole family just has terrible skin elasticity; I could just look at a bowl of ice cream and a stretch mark would appear on my thigh. Surprised

I've also read that it can take loose skin from weight loss up to 2 years to get back some of its firmness, considering you help it along with exercise, healthy foods and drybrushing. But I think it will only tighten up so much, right?

free skin care · Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:41 am

Remember it is not just about taking vitamins, and we’re kind of in a culture that promotes the idea of pill popping over healthy eating, but it is about taking nutrients (vitamins, minerals, essential fatty acids etc) in a form that your own body can digest and absorb and utilise. Even if you lost and gained weight, your skin is still a living, breathing organ that will always have the potential to change for the better. Only time really when it can’t do that is ultimately when you’re dead. I’ve heard of cases where loose skin has taken long time, but they’re quite rare and usually its where there are other things going on in the background like major health challenges or concerns and of course provided the skin is able to do its job and is protecting the body it doesn’t feature high on the body’s priority list but with things like massage and dry brushing you help it up a few notches.

I’d also say don’t limit yourself – with doing the things you are doing its important to aim high and give it time. Who is to say it will only tighten up so much – its got the potential to tighten up as much as you want if you’re doing the right things and exercising etc correctly. Also we know that our minds have tremendous power so to me it’s important to get your mind working for you with these kind of things. The belief that “it will only tighten up so much” can impact your results for sure. There are many people out there who have tightened up their skin considerably and without resorting to surgery and if they can do it – you can too!

sandooch wrote:

So true about the nutrition part of it. I try my best to eat healthy foods and take my vitamins. But I think a big part of the looseness and crepey skin is due to losing and gaining large amounts of weight over the last 33 years, having had 2 kids and being older. Plus, our whole family just has terrible skin elasticity; I could just look at a bowl of ice cream and a stretch mark would appear on my thigh. Surprised

I've also read that it can take loose skin from weight loss up to 2 years to get back some of its firmness, considering you help it along with exercise, healthy foods and drybrushing. But I think it will only tighten up so much, right?

free skin care · Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:39 am

Sorry just realised my post might come across as stepping on others toes and its not intended to that way at all, but its something I have learned the hard way and if I can save others making that mistake I'll be a happy lady. Sean hope you're ok with me posting on it, but you know what i've been through.

free skin care · Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:21 pm

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There is so much to learn on this sight. Right now I am most interested in information on facial exercise. But I keep reading lots of posts about how doing them along with either facial massage, dry brushing and pulling/tugging the skin helps to make the skin either thicker or firmer

Hi There,

I agree with everything that has already been said. Would like to add... Everyone here, I'm sure, will agree that FE Facialbuilding offers within its training (if one chooses) the most aggressive training available. Having myself spent most of my training in high intensity mode for 30+yrs I can tell you simply building muscle does NOT take the place of an ongoing facial massage regime. Because Ageless offers a building technique that requires pulling/tugging by grasping the skin you're getting skin only action as well. So,sounds to me you're on the right track Smile

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