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Sat Aug 18, 2012 2:24 am |
I just got restalyne injections in the tear troughs. I did it once 2.5 weeks ago and then again a few days ago. I was told to go slow and that it could take a couple times to achieve the right results. My dr is very skilled and had explained to me that tear troughs are the hardest area to treat since the skin is very thin.
So I agree with what everyone has said about finding someone very skilled and experienced. Good luck I hope you are happy. For me the second time the results were better. I feel my under eye area is at least 50% better than what it was, and thats great for me as I had tear troughs and bags and dark circles. So basically the lot and the hardest to treat.
Slight swelling lasted 2 days, and now I still have a couple little injection point bumps (probably swelling still) which last time went away within two weeks. No visible bruising due to how she injects (both times),but bruising can happen.I think I may have a bit as it looks a tiny teeny darker at these injection points. But not sure.Having dark under eye circles doesn't help to see properly.
I would just stay away from harsh treatments for a few days before and not use them till a week later. You'll be given instructions on post care. But for prior I just didnt use acid based products so I wouldn't thin the skin too much. Also don't use blood thinning stuff like topical vitamin K etc.
I was also told arnica is good, as Darkmoon mentioned, but didn't really need it myself.
Good luck
Let us know how it goes. |
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Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:54 pm |
It's been almost a year since I had mine done and I've noticed a slight loss of filler by the outer corners of each eye and the inner corner of one eye. I can't afford to get more at the moment but I plan to. I don't know if I will go back to the oculoplastic surgeon because he was expensive. My plastic surgeon works with another doctor who specializes in fillers and has done my nasolabial folds but never the eyes. I would have thought by now he'd have let other women be guinea pigs for the eye area so I might go to him.
To the previous poster, did your doctor thoroughly massage the area after injecting to prevent lumps? The oculoplastic surgeon said that was particularly important below the eyes, which is why you should stop Vitamin E a week or two before and start taking Vitamin K2 to prevent bruising. I take K anyway but haven't been taking my E at all just because I haven't reordered.
I need my spider veins done so it's a decision between legs and face, with face probably winning since I can hide my legs but not my face unless I plan to live in the Middle East! |
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Sun Aug 19, 2012 3:03 pm |
Thanks everyone. I'm going to one of the best places (I think) in my city. I'll be sure to come back with my results after I have it done. So excited and a bit nervous as well. |
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Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:39 pm |
Just thought I'd give an update. I just had my tear troughs filled today with Restylane. First of all ... with the numbing cream they apply, I didn't feel a thing. Completely painless. I had it done about 12 hours ago and so far there is very minimal bruising. Maybe a tiny bit around the injection sites, but even that is very faint. I'm assuming that means I've been lucky and they've been very skilled (I assume if I were to bruise it would have happened by now). I did stop using the things they suggest ahead of time (Asprin, etc.) and I did start taking Arnica Montana a day before which maybe helped.
Now onto the results. I have to say that although they did a great job, I was disappointed to find that the filler wouldn't disguise my dark circles. I didn't think it would be a miracle, but I assumed my circles were due to thin skin and seeing the darkness behind it. I thought by using a filler it would plump it up enough that it would lighten a lot. That didn't happen. It did get rid of the bit of hollowness I had under each eye and by doing that it gives the appearance that my dark circles are a bit lighter, but apparently my dark circles are due to some darker pigment so filler really won't make those disappear.
I am glad I had it done and I'll keep it up as I need it. The bit of improvement I've seen will enable me to use less concealer and not make me look so tired all the time! They suggested this eye cream for dark circles by Alyria which I'll start tomorrow and see if that helps.
On a side note, I have been on the Obagi program (about 14 weeks now), but there were two pigmented spots on my cheek that had faded about 50% but then I didn't see any further improvement for about a month or so. So while I was there I had the Q-Switch laser on them. It may need another treatment or two I've been told, but since they were already fairly light maybe I'll be lucky. My fiance says I look like someone burned me with a lighter! I can't wait until they scab/fall off and see if it got rid of the spots. I've decided to go on Obagi maintenance now and add a few products from their office into the mix.
So my advice to anyone wanting to try to try tear trough fillers. Definitely go for it, but don't expect miracles (if you're like me and have dark circles due to pigmentation). And make sure you go to a well known, respected place with medical doctors who perform the procedure. |
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Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:53 pm |
I want to get this done. I've had huge tear troughs since I was 17 at least. I'm predisposed due to thin skin and a poor bone structure. They keep getting deeper and deeper which is also affecting my lower face.
I heard somewhere that getting some filler around the cheek area actually lifts the NL folds while helping to disguise the dark circles, so if something like radiesse was done along the bony orbit, it would be almost a "two-in-one" deal.
Not sure how accurate that is but it sounds promising. |
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Sun Sep 09, 2012 6:51 am |
Okay, another update. I don't know what has happened, but two days later after the minimal swelling I had is gone, I can't see a difference! Even my fiance says he can't tell they were done. I'm going to book a follow up appointment right away so they can see. I know he only used less than half a full syringe under both eyes (there seemed to be a lot left). Immediately after (I think due to some minor swelling) it "appeared" the tear trough was a bit plumper. A very subtle difference, but it was a tiny bit better. Then yesterday (the day after) throughout the day I could see the swelling going down and each time I looked in the mirror I could see my old undereyes coming back.
And now today, 2 days later, it's like there was nothing injected. And I can't see where it might have "slid" around (although I was told it wouldn't move around).
Is my body totally weird and just reabsorbed it super fast? Is that even possible? ACK! I was so excited for this and it appeared I'd had SOME results, but today ... nothing. I'm going to call them on Monday to book an appointment to see him again and find out what might have gone wrong. |
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Sun Sep 09, 2012 7:21 am |
Go back. I think he very wisely used a minimum amount with the idea of topping off if it is not enough. That is actually a very good approach as even a bit too much in this area looks weird. I always do mine over 2 or even 3 sessions as a mistake in this area will take a long time to dissapate as there is little dynamic movement.
If you practioner is good he will welcome feedback and do his best to bring it to where you are satisfied. Did you pay for the whole syringe? He should have stored that syringe for your touchups as it lasts quite a long time.
Good luck - I'm sure it will come out right in the end.
best, mis |
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Sun Sep 09, 2012 7:55 am |
mismis wrote: |
If you practioner is good he will welcome feedback and do his best to bring it to where you are satisfied. Did you pay for the whole syringe? He should have stored that syringe for your touchups as it lasts quite a long time.
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Yes, I paid for the entire syringe and they told me they can keep it for me for up to a year. I'm not sure in a case like this if I have a pay for the procedure again minus the cost of the syringe? When you've gone back, have you had to pay more or was it cover in the first payment/first visit?
You're right about it being better to undercorrect than over ... I was just hoping to see more results. I guess the temporary swelling made it appear it was more plumped up than it was. On a side note, had very minimal bruising so that was good.
How long did you go between touch-ups? |
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Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:16 am |
I just had my tear troughs done as well. It was a two part procedure (possibly three - I go back next week for the final visit). My doc does charge a nominal fee for additional injections.
They should have taken a photo of you before the procedure. If so, ask to see the photo. Sometimes we forget how we really looked. I know that really helped me.
I am a terrible bruiser so my doc used a cannula instead of a needle. Do you remember how many "pokes" with the needle you got? |
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Sun Sep 09, 2012 10:04 am |
Panda1 wrote: |
They should have taken a photo of you before the procedure. If so, ask to see the photo. Sometimes we forget how we really looked. I know that really helped me.
I am a terrible bruiser so my doc used a cannula instead of a needle. Do you remember how many "pokes" with the needle you got? |
They definitely had taken a before photo. I "THINK" they did at least 2 pokes under each eye ... maybe 3?
I'm going to call them on Monday and see when I can get in for another visit. I'm really hopeful in the long run that this will turn out to be a success.
How long did they have you wait between the 1st and 2nd visit? |
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Sun Sep 09, 2012 11:00 am |
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How long did they have you wait between the 1st and 2nd visit? |
I waited 10 days between visits. |
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Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:26 am |
I waited 2 weeks. Personally I agree with what you said earlier. Tear trough fillers may not resolve dark circles, and they probably won't fix under eye bags either (not sure if you have those too). Going a second time may soften the area more but I found it wasn't a great improvement for me. The first time I saw a 20% improvement overall, the second I think I saw a 40% overall improvement , which Im happy, or okay, with. But my dark circles certainly are still there and my eye bags are there too but they just don't look as bad. I think what Ill do next is cheek filler and see how that makes my eyes look and then target tear troughs. Sometimes eyes can look worse with a sunken or flatter cheek area.
But I do agree that you should go slow. You may see a better result the second time around. Results should not be drastic as its a hard area to do and should be done slowly (as PP mentioned). I found that , for me, results were seen moreso after the third day, prior to that results were masked by slight swelling...which I actually liked :lol...weird hey?! Good luck : |
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Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:50 am |
If you want subtle, natural effects with fillers, it's always best to proceed incrementally. Always ask the Dr. to undercorrect. Mainly because then every six months you can continue to address small issues and tweaks around the initial injections. It's more of an investment, but your facial contours will be gradually rejuvenated, you will develop a strong relationship with your practitioner, and you most certainly won't ever have bruising or other complications that result from having too much injected at one sitting.
The best IMHO is an injector who will undercorrect and then see you again in a week to touch up if needed. |
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Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:07 pm |
I have another appointment next Thursday, so I'll be sure to update my progress on round two. People at work say they can see a subtle difference, which I am still having trouble seeing. But then again, I think I'm over analyzing it!
Good news though is that since I bought the syringe, follow ups are included in the price. I'll only need to pay again when I need a new vial, and I believe there was over half left. |
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Sat Aug 24, 2013 9:50 pm |
Just had Restylane -- one-half cc -- in my tear troughs. It seems you don't have to buy a full cc: if you can't afford it or don't need it. I still had a bit there from last year so this was a top off.
I went to a different oculoplastic surgeon recommended by someone on this forum (Nancy) a year or so ago because the last doc was a bit too brusque and arrogant (from being on TV no doubt). Unfortunately I have a bruise under one eye. He said there is a vein that runs through that area and it's hard to avoid. I bruised in the exact spot before, too.
He said massaging the filler to distribute it is a good idea (he used finger and Q-tip) but doing it too much can bring it closer to the surface in the form of lumps so you need someone experienced. He injected it deep which was a bit creepy -- I could hear a crunching sound. That is why I wouldn't trust anyone except an eye expert to do this type of injection. Too damned scary.
I am exhausted today because I had to sleep on my back, something I don't normally do, so I kept waking up every hour. I didn't want to risk shifting any filler. He said everyone should sleep on their backs all the time but it's just too uncomfortable plus I snore! |
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Sun Aug 25, 2013 3:40 pm |
He used a cannula correct soft skin? The crunching is from the tissues separating rather than being sliced, which is what a needle does, and why it causes more bruising and trauma. A cannula *should* push the veins aside because of the blunt end instead of piercing through it as a needle would. If you are still getting bruising your doc could either take it more slowly, or even use a larger gauge cannula which is less likely to damage your veins. Both are worth considering as this has happened twice. Enjoy your eyes! |
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Sun Aug 25, 2013 3:49 pm |
It is alarming the first time you hear this. I get crunching using a needle for my cheeks, also I have had crunching when having deep injections with a needle for temple augmentation. It is just one of those "ick" factors whether caused by needle or cannula, and once you know it is harmless, you will be more comfortable.
I DIY, so I can actually feel as well as hear the crunch as I pass through tissue. In a way it is reassuring that I am "there".
TTs are one of the most rewarding or augmentations, and I am sure you will be happy you did this. Also, they last a LONG time as there is little dynamic movement in this area. So for a little panic and ick factor, you feel beautiful for a long time. Guess you can see what my choice would be! |
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Sun Aug 25, 2013 10:04 pm |
I've had them done once a year for the past three years. Nothing new for me. Only the doc is new. Yes, I've generally been happy with the result except the last time when it was lumpy; hence, my changing docs. |
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Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:51 am |
yup, vote with your feet - unfortunately you have had to live with the lumps for a while. It does seem unfair, after you have paid that much! |
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Mon Aug 26, 2013 5:07 pm |
There is a new product, Belotero, that is like thin Restylane. I had that and it didn't last as long. I know there are worries about a bluish cast under the eye skin but the filler is used deeply. I've never seen a blue cast under my eyes.
What I do worry about is a blue cast on the back of my hands since that is on my wishlist at some point -- bony hands need plumping. My blue veins are bad enough! |
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Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:52 pm |
You can use Radiesse in the hands, it has a white colour and is not an HA filler so there is absolutely no possibility of getting the dreaded tyndall effect. Also, it is highly stimulating to collagen genesis and lasts longer. Unfortunately is not generally thought to be a good choice for under the eyes.
I just had my hands done with Radiesse by one of my DIY buddies and LOVE it. At 61 and after decades as a production potter my hands were extremely worn and gaunt looking. It is now so easy to give my hands a ReAura treatment. Love wearing rings now! |
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Wed Aug 28, 2013 1:53 pm |
GirlieGirl wrote: |
There are risks, like with anything, with this but the filler wont migrate into your eye's. I'd be concerned about seeing a dr who told me that.
I think this a popular procedure and you shouldn't have to convince your dr to do it. He/She should be well experienced. |
http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements/ingredientmono-721-ARNICA.aspx?activeIngredientId=721&activeIngredientName=ARNICA
Surgery: Arnica might cause extra bleeding during and after surgery. Stop using it at least 2 weeks before a scheduled surgery.
I was told that arnica does thin your blood.
I'm guessing most people do not have a problem with that.
I happen to have a problem with too thin blood and tried taking arnica for half a day and had so many problems with bleeding when I went to get a blood test done.
If you do not have any strange issues like that, it might be fine.
Also garlic, ginger, Ginko and prob a few other things I forget thin your blood as well. |
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