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Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:50 am  |
Ah, decisions, decisions.
I am a stay at home mom. We are a one car families, I have a lot of little ones, and it is very hot here in the daytime during the summer, so I tend to stay indoors a whole lot.
I wouldn't say the house gets too much sun as I don't see any fading on my fabrics, furniture, and rugs though its nice and bright inside.
I do pop outside here and there for 5 minutes or so just to check on the kids. Maybe once or twice a day.
I am trying to decide whether I should be using a rather high SPF (like a 30 or so) or if a lower one is better (like an  . I want an all natural product, no nano particles. I'm looking at the Kimberley Sayers for the 30 and the Mexitan for the 8
I hate to put things on my face that I don't need. Otherwise, I would just use my mineral makeup as it has an SPF of about 15, but it has other minerals besides Titanium Dioxide in it, like mica which I don't know if I want to wear every day.
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Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:02 am |
I am too lazy to use sunscreen if I am staying indoors a lot.  But I do like Kimberly Sayer Light Moisturizer SPF30 as it is light and natural. |
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Thu Apr 12, 2012 12:38 pm |
| What about Devita? They get great reviews and are all natural IIRC. They can all act as moisturisers as well as SPF so you don't have to purchase a separate product. Many people have used the Body Block on the face because it is cheaper than the facial Solar Protective sunscreen (both zinc oxide only and SPF30). The Rx Ultrasolar 50 contains both titanium and zinc. |
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Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:00 pm |
| Firefox7275 wrote: |
| What about Devita? They get great reviews and are all natural IIRC. They can all act as moisturisers as well as SPF so you don't have to purchase a separate product. Many people have used the Body Block on the face because it is cheaper than the facial Solar Protective sunscreen (both zinc oxide only and SPF30). The Rx Ultrasolar 50 contains both titanium and zinc. |
I looked at the Devita and decided if I'm going to go for a 30, I'd like to try the kimberly sayer one as the devita is micronized and the ks one isn't.... but i'd be much happier if I could find an all natural 15 or 10 in a nice moisturizer... just i don't see why to put so much zinc on my face if i dont need it...
OH! IDEA IDEA! What if I used the moisturizer sparingly, or mixed just a bit into my other day cream? Would that effective lower the SPF since I'd be using less of the active ingredient? |
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Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:14 pm |
Oh, look at this! Nice ingredients and an SPF of 10! 4.5% zinc
melan-sol
i can't find many reviews online, a makeup alley one for the 18 seemed decent.
the 10 has 4.5% zinc
I think the 30 for the ks one was 14% zinc/titanium blend
So, if I use about 1/2 the recommended amount blended evenly into my day cream, wouldn't that give me about a 7% zinc (which sounds perfect to me!) or does it not work like that? |
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Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:20 pm |
You might want to read this whole article:
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-06-20/beauty/28554300_1_sunscreens-uva-and-uvb-uva-rays
A bit of it:
Sunscreens decoded!
Lisa Antao Jun 20, 2011, 12.00am IST
Is sunscreen required when you're indoors?
We all know that applying sunscreens are a must when one is outdoors, but what about when one is indoors? Dr Vibhakar says that one needs to apply sunscreens even if they are indoors. That's because there is scattered sunlight. Also, artificial lights do contain some amount of radiation, albeit low. While cooking, flames from the cooking gas give off heat and light. So women who spend long hours in the kitchen cooking need to use sunscreens at least with an SPF of 15. |
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Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:27 pm |
Regarding Zinc Oxide it gives the best UVA/UVB protection of all, and it is soothing to the skin.
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Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:07 am |
| DarkMoon wrote: |
| Also, artificial lights do contain some amount of radiation, albeit low. While cooking, flames from the cooking gas give off heat and light. So women who spend long hours in the kitchen cooking need to use sunscreens at least with an SPF of 15. |
how much time do you think i spend in the kitchen with 8 people to feed and a whole food diet 
thank god, i enjoy cooking and nutrition as much as skin care! |
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Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:12 am |
| UmEnis wrote: |
| DarkMoon wrote: |
| Also, artificial lights do contain some amount of radiation, albeit low. While cooking, flames from the cooking gas give off heat and light. So women who spend long hours in the kitchen cooking need to use sunscreens at least with an SPF of 15. |
how much time do you think i spend in the kitchen with 8 people to feed and a whole food diet
thank god, i enjoy cooking and nutrition as much as skin care! |
LOL. been there done that had a crew of my own! I was mainly giving you the info since we get sun exposure even inside! |
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Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:23 am |
| DarkMoon wrote: |
Regarding Zinc Oxide it gives the best UVA/UVB protection of all, and it is soothing to the skin.
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I did know that about the protection, but I did not know that it was soothing. i really like that and i have no concerns at all now about the 30.
I did some googling and apparently there are also soothing/anti-inflamatory properties in titanium dioxide as well. Though I had to search harder for it, so its probably less pronounced.
I'm leaning toward the kim sayer's heavily now... it does have titanium dioxide in it, but at least its not micronized. According to another thread here is about 6.5%-7% of each. |
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Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:51 am |
| UmEnis wrote: |
| DarkMoon wrote: |
Regarding Zinc Oxide it gives the best UVA/UVB protection of all, and it is soothing to the skin.
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I did know that about the protection, but I did not know that it was soothing. i really like that and i have no concerns at all now about the 30.
I did some googling and apparently there are also soothing/anti-inflamatory properties in titanium dioxide as well. Though I had to search harder for it, so its probably less pronounced.
I'm leaning toward the kim sayer's heavily now... it does have titanium dioxide in it, but at least its not micronized. According to another thread here is about 6.5%-7% of each. |
I go for a higher percentage, but I do live in a tropical sunny area.
I use a zinc oxide sunscreen and my MMU has both ZO and TD.
I know in different climates further from the equator less SPF can be fine. |
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Fri Apr 13, 2012 5:46 am |
I'm not that close to the equator, though the sun is really bright here and burns quick. But, like I said, I'm only outside during the hot part of the day for 5-10 minutes at a shot. Even most of the shops here are closed until about 4:30 in the summer here.
Darkmoon, What do you use that is only zinc oxide? Is it nano/micronized? |
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Fri Apr 13, 2012 5:52 am |
| UmEnis wrote: |
I'm not that close to the equator, though the sun is really bright here and burns quick. But, like I said, I'm only outside during the hot part of the day for 5-10 minutes at a shot. Even most of the shops here are closed until about 4:30 in the summer here.
Darkmoon, What do you use that is only zinc oxide? Is it nano/micronized? |
I use Burnout, I do believe is is micronized but not nano. It can be found for safety on EWG/SkinDeep. I top that with Sunforgettable mineral powder sun protection SPF 30 orb, but I am in a very sunny climate. The ORB is more controversial being a powder, I just hold my breath while applying.
BurnOut - Clean and Clear Zinc Oxide Sunblock
Zinc Oxide 18.6%, Deionized water, Capric Triglycerides, Glycerin, Sorbitol, Imperta Cylindrica (Root) Extract, Caprylyl Glycol, Lecithin, Arabidopsis Extract, Plankton Extract, Aloe Vera, Vitamin C, Vitamin E, Citric Acid |
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Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:39 pm |
When I'm at home with the kids I still use my zinc based sunscreen. I am going to try Darkmoons suggested one once I run out of my invisible zinc (which I do like btw).
A good moisturiser with sunscreen would be ideal in your situation (at home but not outside alot.)But if your like me and are not a fan of chemical sunscreens then there's not too many moisturiser sunscreens out there that have physical non nano nice feel sunscreen blockers.  Sometimes when Im home inside alot I just add a bit of my suncreen with moisturiser and it doesnt feel too heavy.
GL |
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Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:04 pm |
I went ahead and already bought the kim sayer's one. no more suggestions, please, or my brain might explode. lol.
it seems to have a lot of good stuff even if i don't need that high of a protection factor, and darkmoon's info on the minerals being good for the skin sold me. |
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Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:35 pm |
| Let us know what you think about it. I think for your purpose it looks good |
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Sat Apr 14, 2012 12:39 am |
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I am trying to decide whether I should be using a rather high SPF (like a 30 or so) or if a lower one is better (like an . I want an all natural product, no nano particles. I'm looking at the Kimberley Sayers for the 30 and the Mexitan for the 8
I hate to put things on my face that I don't need. Otherwise, I would just use my mineral makeup as it has an SPF of about 15, but it has other minerals besides Titanium Dioxide in it, like mica which I don't know if I want to wear every day.
Anythoughts? |
You could have some of that UV film put over all of your windows to eliminate the need to wear sunscreen all the time in the house. I am considering getting it done as I like to do my dance conditioning when I wake up but want to put my sunscreen and other products on after as I will just sweat them off.
Just as a side note, it is great that you are being sensible and protecting yourself from UV rays but please do be aware that you still need to make sure you are getting adequate exposure to the sun for adequate vitamin D absorption. This means, depending on your skin type and location, exposing 40% or more of your body unprotected by creams etc. (it does not have to be your face) to the sun for around 20 minutes, three times a week. It will be more the darker your skin tone and (apparently) will also vary according to the time of day it is. If you want to read more about this here is a great post on it:
wwwdotessentialdayspadotcom/forum/viewthread.php?tid=44998
[Replace the 'dot''s with '.']
Sorry if you already know this but thought I would say just in case as thanks to the current demonising of the sun's rays we have an epidemic of Vitamin D deficiency causing all sorts of health problems. |
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Sat Apr 14, 2012 6:09 am |
The Kimberly Sayer sunscreen is really terrific. I used a whole jar of it and then went on to other sunscreens. However, I wasn't very happy with what I tried. I have extremely sensitive skin and so many others out there irritated my skin, were too white or just very drying.
I think I'll go back to the KS. Hope you like it. |
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Sat Apr 14, 2012 6:21 am |
| Moon wrote: |
Just as a side note, it is great that you are being sensible and protecting yourself from UV rays but please do be aware that you still need to make sure you are getting adequate exposure to the sun for adequate vitamin D absorption. This means, depending on your skin type and location, exposing 40% or more of your body unprotected by creams etc. (it does not have to be your face) to the sun for around 20 minutes, three times a week. It will be more the darker your skin tone and (apparently) will also vary according to the time of day it is. If you want to read more about this here is a great post on it:
wwwdotessentialdayspadotcom/forum/viewthread.php?tid=44998
[Replace the 'dot''s with '.']
Sorry if you already know this but thought I would say just in case as thanks to the current demonising of the sun's rays we have an epidemic of Vitamin D deficiency causing all sorts of health problems. |
I do know this, but I'm still glad you shared it as its important for everyone to know.
But the sun is soooooo hot and bright here in the summer and sunrise is so early and factoring in delayed application, I have no doubt I'll get my 15 minutes in easy.
But still, thanks again for the reminder! |
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Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:15 am |
Hello there,
I'm mother to two kids and I can understand how difficult to handle kids. every time they go out in sun, and mum like us need to keep eye on them. so we have to get into the sun, even if we hate it!
Currently I use SPF 15 sunscreen. but one of my friend suggest me Lipbalm for sunny days! Actually i was amazed, because i never used it before. I came across Lipice Suncare Lipbalm, Lipbalm from Multibrands International. It work for me. It has SPF 25 UV filters. I mean, wow!!! It just awesome. |
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Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:53 pm |
| Another vote for invisible zinc- is it me or does zinc seem to heal skin? my skin is looking Winona Ryder-ish since using zinc only as! |
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Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:02 pm |
| LondonJamie wrote: |
| Another vote for invisible zinc- is it me or does zinc seem to heal skin? my skin is looking Winona Ryder-ish since using zinc only as! |
It is not just you, zinc oxide is very healing and calming to the skin, that is why it is used in diaper/nappy rash ointments!  |
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