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Tue May 08, 2012 8:15 am      Reply with quote
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Firefox - is Castille Soap different from standard soaps? The general consensus is that Castille Soap is safe, natural and environmentally friendly.

Thanks for that info Foxe. Everything that I've read about Castille Soap is positive so I'd be disappointed if that's not the case. The only concern is the alkalinity - but that's why the ACV is added. Anyway, my skin and hair seems to like it!


When referring to ingredients (eg. the potassium cocoate in Foxe's example) soap is soap, it's all alkaline and all has the beneficial emollient oils saponified. The safe/ natural argument comes from the alternative skincare industry: actually sulphate surfactants can be made from oils too.

How your formulate with your ingredient and how your skin responds to the end result is another debate: you can add ACV or citric acid to alter the pH but that is another ingredient. Much the same has to be done with even some of the 'gentle' non-ionic surfactants such as decyl and lauryl glucoside. HTH! Smile

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Tue May 08, 2012 10:32 am      Reply with quote
I just thought of another thread we need. Top ten beauty industry scams. I vote for plant stem cells at the top of the list.
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You are on a rip today aren't you?

Although...I must agree.

Lead the way...I've been down that path, the natives are vicious. They so do not like when you lift the lid on the malarkey. They get irate about that...and blow SPIN at you.

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Sun May 13, 2012 11:40 pm      Reply with quote
Regarding worst ingredients- just read something in TruthinAging about experiment where Lavender (lintool)[even just a little] kills cells!
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Mon May 14, 2012 11:45 am      Reply with quote
Kath91 wrote:
Regarding worst ingredients- just read something in TruthinAging about experiment where Lavender (lintool)[even just a little] kills cells!


Interesting. Here's the link:
http://www.truthinaging.com/ingredient-spotlight/lavender-and-skin-safety

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Dr I C Locke found that in concentrations of 0.25%, lavender oil can be cytotoxic to human skin cells. He thinks that linanool, a component of lavender oil and an ingredient that crops all the time in cosmetics and shampoos, is the culprit along with linalyl acetate.


So no more lavender body butter before bed?...
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Mon May 14, 2012 11:57 am      Reply with quote
fitgineer wrote:
Kath91 wrote:
Regarding worst ingredients- just read something in TruthinAging about experiment where Lavender (lintool)[even just a little] kills cells!


Interesting. Here's the link:
http://www.truthinaging.com/ingredient-spotlight/lavender-and-skin-safety

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Dr I C Locke found that in concentrations of 0.25%, lavender oil can be cytotoxic to human skin cells. He thinks that linanool, a component of lavender oil and an ingredient that crops all the time in cosmetics and shampoos, is the culprit along with linalyl acetate.


So no more lavender body butter before bed?...


If you really want it as a soothing sleep aid you can mix about 10/20 drops per oz. of the EO into a mixture of mostly distilled water and Vodka or Evercleer then spray on a small decorative pillow that you keep close in your bed but don't rest your head/face on! Smile

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Mon May 14, 2012 5:27 pm      Reply with quote
Great! Another one to add to the list - now Lavender is killing us!

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Mon May 14, 2012 5:36 pm      Reply with quote
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Great! Another one to add to the list - now Lavender is killing us!


Oh he!! isn't everything???

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Mon May 28, 2012 1:37 pm      Reply with quote
we just drove by a beautiful lavendar farm - upstate New York - wonderful scent - pulled into little shop on site - sells multi lavendar products - couldn't bear to tell owners about the bad news about lavendar toxicity Question ...is it even safe to inhale???
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Mon May 28, 2012 3:01 pm      Reply with quote
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we just drove by a beautiful lavendar farm - upstate New York - wonderful scent - pulled into little shop on site - sells multi lavendar products - couldn't bear to tell owners about the bad news about lavendar toxicity Question ...is it even safe to inhale???


Laughing I think the fact that they are still alive and not dead from smelling it for eons, might mean theres hope after all!
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Tue May 29, 2012 6:34 am      Reply with quote
After reading the thread on toners, my worst ingredient would be colloidal silver... I have been traumatized by what I read !!
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Tue May 29, 2012 11:48 am      Reply with quote
Tiny wrote:
Kath91 wrote:
we just drove by a beautiful lavendar farm - upstate New York - wonderful scent - pulled into little shop on site - sells multi lavendar products - couldn't bear to tell owners about the bad news about lavendar toxicity Question ...is it even safe to inhale???


Laughing I think the fact that they are still alive and not dead from smelling it for eons, might mean theres hope after all!


I know right? I have used lavender EO's and grown Lavender in my garden for ages....and even had Lavender Candy! Shock

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After reading the thread on toners, my worst ingredient would be colloidal silver... I have been traumatized by what I read !!


AMEN Marjorie! Thank You! Idea

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Tue May 29, 2012 2:24 pm      Reply with quote
I know many will not agree with me (probably no one will) but I don't like Aloe Vera in products. It makes my skin excessively dry. It's not in the least moisturizing or soothing. I don't purchase anything with aloe in it.
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I know many will not agree with me (probably no one will) but I don't like Aloe Vera in products. It makes my skin excessively dry. It's not in the least moisturizing or soothing. I don't purchase anything with aloe in it.


I've only used fresh aloe, for healing purposes, cuts, burns ect. I find it very tacky, so I do not use in skincare products either.
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I know many will not agree with me (probably no one will) but I don't like Aloe Vera in products. It makes my skin excessively dry. It's not in the least moisturizing or soothing. I don't purchase anything with aloe in it.


Not at all leelee,

Nothing works or is great for everyone! Smile

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Tue May 29, 2012 3:07 pm      Reply with quote
Tiny....I agree. I know aloe is good to heal wounds and burns and I've used it for that reason,but I don't get why it is put in moisturizers. Just like you I don't find anything moisturizing about it.
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Tue May 29, 2012 3:09 pm      Reply with quote
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Tiny....I agree. I know aloe is good to heal wounds and burns and I've used it for that reason,but I don't get why it is put in moisturizers. Just like you I don't find anything moisturizing about it.


As a little girl, if I hurt myself, my grandmother would go pinch a peice off and fix my booboo! I still do it to this day, might not do much, but I feel her love and then feel better! But I also feel sticky Laughing
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Tue May 29, 2012 3:30 pm      Reply with quote
Ooooh 'leelee' and 'tiny'... pair that lovely aloe up with a lovely humectant (or 3) and it's a whole different animal.. Wink

I agree, on it's own it's skin drying rubbish..Crying or Very sad

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Tue May 29, 2012 3:31 pm      Reply with quote
Kassy_A wrote:
Ooooh 'leelee' and 'tiny'... pair that lovely aloe up with a lovely humectant (or 3) and it's a whole different animal.. Wink

I agree, on it's own it's skin drying rubbish..Crying or Very sad


Like? Happy to try anything at least once or twice!
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Tue May 29, 2012 3:57 pm      Reply with quote
Tiny wrote:
Kath91 wrote:
we just drove by a beautiful lavendar farm - upstate New York - wonderful scent - pulled into little shop on site - sells multi lavendar products - couldn't bear to tell owners about the bad news about lavendar toxicity Question ...is it even safe to inhale???


Laughing I think the fact that they are still alive and not dead from smelling it for eons, might mean theres hope after all!


LOL. Thanks so much for the laugh, Tiny. I cannot quit chuckling about your answer. Laughing
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Tue May 29, 2012 10:43 pm      Reply with quote
fitgineer wrote:
Kath91 wrote:
Regarding worst ingredients- just read something in TruthinAging about experiment where Lavender (lintool)[even just a little] kills cells!


Interesting. Here's the link:
http://www.truthinaging.com/ingredient-spotlight/lavender-and-skin-safety

Quote:
Dr I C Locke found that in concentrations of 0.25%, lavender oil can be cytotoxic to human skin cells. He thinks that linanool, a component of lavender oil and an ingredient that crops all the time in cosmetics and shampoos, is the culprit along with linalyl acetate.


So no more lavender body butter before bed?...



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http://personalcaretruth.com/2011/09/lavender-oil-skin-savior-or-skin-irritant/

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Wed May 30, 2012 1:27 am      Reply with quote
Sorry I'm sure its there somewhere but I've been reading through both threads what exactly is wrong with Syn-Ake is it just that it doesn't work or is it harmful to skin?
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Sorry I'm sure its there somewhere but I've been reading through both threads what exactly is wrong with Syn-Ake is it just that it doesn't work or is it harmful to skin?


Not only doesn't work, but cannot work, without violating well established principles of neuromuscular junction receptor chemistry, cell biology, and physiology. What makes it so irksome is that the purveyors think the public is so stupid as to be unable to see through the thinly veiled junk science. 1. IF it worked, you would quickly notice drooping eyelids, as they are the facial muscles most sensitive to neuromuscular receptor blockade 2. IF it worked at the muscular level as it claims, it would be a drug, not a cosmetic (just like botox). It has become one of my poster children for industry abuses, which is why I have nicknamed it Synake Oil.

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Wed May 30, 2012 10:32 am      Reply with quote
Kassy_A....what would I mix with aloe to make it moisturizing? Sorry, but I'm not very good at this. Also, aside from being very healing to cuts, wounds and burns, what other benefits does aloe have for the skin?
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