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Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:08 am      Reply with quote
egyptiangoddess wrote:
Lotusesther, "stirfries in healthy oils", what do you mean when you say healthy oils?

Regarding gretchen, well, what about the french? They eat a lot of butter etc. (and red wine I know.) So do you have any pictures of someone from France gretchen?

ETA: I can't post a pic but how about Mireille Guiliano, author of "French women don't get fat". She's 66 and eats a french sort of diet.


I already went through that on another thread, even posted a picture almost full length of Mireille Guiliano and gretchen said that she is fat! Wrinkled as well!

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How about a happy medium in between low fat that made you sick and the 3 big macs worth of fat?


Come on riley, no common sense, middle of the road thinking here! Laughing

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Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:38 am      Reply with quote
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How about a happy medium in between low fat that made you sick and the 3 big macs worth of fat?


Come on riley, no common sense, middle of the road thinking here! Laughing

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LOL. Yes, my common sense thinking gets me in to trouble, I think! Laughing
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Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:07 am      Reply with quote
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How about a happy medium in between low fat that made you sick and the 3 big macs worth of fat?


Come on riley, no common sense, middle of the road thinking here! Laughing

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LOL. Yes, my common sense thinking gets me in to trouble, I think! Laughing


It is just like a certain "magic water" you just do not think outside the box! Laughing

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Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:40 pm      Reply with quote
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It is just like a certain "magic water" you just do not think outside the box! Laughing


DM, you naughty girl. Do not tread on the power of the magic water. Too bad, us logical thinking folks just don't get it. Smile
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It is just like a certain "magic water" you just do not think outside the box! Laughing


DM, you naughty girl. Do not tread on the power of the magic water. Too bad, us logical thinking folks just don't get it. Smile


LOL packratmack,

If the "magic" works for some more power to them! My logical side and my experience tells me there is no :magic" in that water! Laughing

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Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:53 pm      Reply with quote
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DarkMoon wrote:

It is just like a certain "magic water" you just do not think outside the box! Laughing


DM, you naughty girl. Do not tread on the power of the magic water. Too bad, us logical thinking folks just don't get it. Smile


It's not "magic water" folks - it's "magic fat"!!

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Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:56 pm      Reply with quote
Where's DrJ??? I think he starts these threads just to see what lunacy will ensue, then disappears.

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Where's DrJ??? I think he starts these threads just to see what lunacy will ensue, then disappears.


He just magically appeared on the Cellese review thread!

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Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:53 pm      Reply with quote
Gretchen - I'm not sure what you think you're achieving by posting one picture of an English women who you think is on a low fat diet, and one picture of a French woman that is on a higher fat diet - both of whom you appear to look down on.

One single person can never represent an entire dietary approach to eating.

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Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:24 am      Reply with quote
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Gretchen - I'm not sure what you think you're achieving by posting one picture of an English women who you think is on a low fat diet, and one picture of a French woman that is on a higher fat diet - both of whom you appear to look down on.

One single person can never represent an entire dietary approach to eating.


Keliu, I think she only posted the picture of the french woman because I asked. I don't think the Lita Lee person is on a low fat diet (just no pufa's).

gretchen, you said the french woman likely eats bread. Didn't you post elsewhere that you now believe bread/carbs/sugar are fine and only pufa's and lack of SF were the issue? Sorry, I'm just confused. Can you clarify please.
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Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:36 am      Reply with quote
Some good information on fats here:

http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/health/az1126.html

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Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:49 am      Reply with quote
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Keliu, I think she only posted the picture of the french woman because I asked. I don't think the Lita Lee person is on a low fat diet (just no pufa's).


The picture of the person on the low fat diet posted by Gretchen was the Duchess of Cambridge.

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Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:46 am      Reply with quote
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Keliu, I think she only posted the picture of the french woman because I asked. I don't think the Lita Lee person is on a low fat diet (just no pufa's).


The picture of the person on the low fat diet posted by Gretchen was the Duchess of Cambridge.


Oops sorry Keliu. I thought you were talking about that Lita Lee person lol. Embarassed I must have missed that post!
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Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:29 am      Reply with quote
I'm very confused!
Where is the photo of the Duchess of Cambridge?
I can only see two photos - one is of the French writer,Mireille Guiliano, and the other is of Lita Lee.
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Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:36 am      Reply with quote
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Some good information on fats here:

http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/health/az1126.html


It's time for a fresh perspective about fats.

Oils in Context
http://raypeat.com/articles/nutrition/oils-in-context.shtml

PUFAs are not "essential" for health.
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Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:39 am      Reply with quote
This one! Smile


gretchen wrote:
Keliu wrote:
There are 91.65 grams of fat in a stick of butter and 29 grams of fat in a Big Mac. So you are actually consuming the equivalent fat of three and a half Big Macs in one hit.


Yeah I suppose I could eat a low fat diet, um, already did- it made me sick.

What eating low fat does to your skin:
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Oh well 50 years of indoctrination, there are some things you really can't un-learn.

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Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:11 pm      Reply with quote
After all of this I am quite curious to see a picture of Gretchen.
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Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:13 pm      Reply with quote
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After all of this I am quite curious to see a picture of Gretchen.


Shock Shock Shock Laughing

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Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:17 pm      Reply with quote
Thank you, Dark Moon.
Another question - what is supposed to be wrong with Kate's skin? I know I'm English and probably biased, but she looks like a healthy young woman to me! lol
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Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:17 pm      Reply with quote
DarkMoon wrote:
This one! Smile


gretchen wrote:
Keliu wrote:
There are 91.65 grams of fat in a stick of butter and 29 grams of fat in a Big Mac. So you are actually consuming the equivalent fat of three and a half Big Macs in one hit.


Yeah I suppose I could eat a low fat diet, um, already did- it made me sick.

What eating low fat does to your skin:
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Oh well 50 years of indoctrination, there are some things you really can't un-learn.


Am I understanding this right, Gretchens finding fault with the new princess Rolling Eyes !! unreal shes beautiful
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Thank you, Dark Moon.
Another question - what is supposed to be wrong with Kate's skin? I know I'm English and probably biased, but she looks like a healthy young woman to me! lol


You are welcome Holmes,

I don' know what to say she posts a lot of pictures of people that I see no flaws out of the ordinary yet according to the poster they are fat, and or have bad skin? Laughing

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Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:24 pm      Reply with quote
Tiny wrote:
DarkMoon wrote:
This one! Smile


gretchen wrote:
Keliu wrote:
There are 91.65 grams of fat in a stick of butter and 29 grams of fat in a Big Mac. So you are actually consuming the equivalent fat of three and a half Big Macs in one hit.


Yeah I suppose I could eat a low fat diet, um, already did- it made me sick.

What eating low fat does to your skin:
Image

Oh well 50 years of indoctrination, there are some things you really can't un-learn.


Am I understanding this right, Gretchens finding fault with the new princess Rolling Eyes !! unreal shes beautiful


Yep, the only negative I can find in this picture is that she just looks a little tired, which is understandable. But she is still a beautiful young lady IMO.

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Sat Jun 09, 2012 5:19 pm      Reply with quote
It's also very easy to find an unflattering photo of a celebrity - the media thrives on them. But to hold that one photo up as an example of a poor diet is ridiculous.

But I also believe that there is room in a diet for saturated fat - the French thrive on it - and I would much rather consume butter than margerine for example. (But never 8 ounces of it all in one hit!) The point of the French diet is that they eat in moderation.

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It's also very easy to find an unflattering photo of a celebrity - the media thrives on them. But to hold that one photo up as an example of a poor diet is ridiculous.

But I also believe that there is room in a diet for saturated fat - the French thrive on it - and I would much rather consume butter than margerine for example. (But never 8 ounces of it all in one hit!) The point of the French diet is that they eat in moderation.


Thank you Keliu,

I totally agree, I have nothing against using real butter but melting a stick and drinking it is just beyond any reasonable thought to me!

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