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ebbyboob
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 12:30 pm      Reply with quote
Hi all,

This is my very first post to this forum (though it's not my first time visiting and reading the posts). This is an amazing site- please maintain it!!! Well, I just wanted to know- what is toner used for? What is it supposed to do? I see several people on here mentioning this toner and that toner, but what do you even need toner for? Also, does anyone have any recommendations for a good toner to use (after it's been proven that I should use one at all Wink )?
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 1:25 pm      Reply with quote
Hi! This is only my second post so hello!
I trained as a Beauty Therapist and was led to believe that a toner had the following uses:

Removes last traces of cleanser.
Temporarily closes pores
Prepares skin for moisturiser.

Although obviously some have other ingredients that have other effects (eg - glycolic acid to exfoliate or ingredients with soothing properties etc).
To be honest unless you buy a toner with a specific benefit rather than a plain old toner then you may as well splash with cold water - has the same effect IMHO.
Hope that helps! Smile
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 3:49 pm      Reply with quote
I hate spending money on toners...I can always think of something else I'd rather buy in terms of treatment, you know what I mean?! Laughing ...I will say though, that the Cellex Betaplex mist is glorious, and I always have Orlane's Claircilane toner in the cupboard...it's the only one that I love to use every day - and while it doesn't make me feel stripped, it doesn't feel like I've splashed my face with water either...it's my fave everyday toner!
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 4:08 pm      Reply with quote
HI,

I may be completely wrong, but I thought the purpose of toner was to set the correct ph of your skin after cleansing.

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Mon Feb 07, 2005 5:09 pm      Reply with quote
I think it gets rid of some of the residual crap left on the skin.

I thought toning was a waste of time, but I do notice the difference in my skin when I tone regularly. Decleor have some really nice toners. They're not too harsh at all and smell nice too. Also, I love to tone my neck aswell!!!! I know that sounds strange, but I find that I moisturise my neck and often powder it too, and so it makes sense to take off the excess make-up from the neck at night.

It's easy to think - the stronger the toner...the more effective it will be at removing traces of dirt...but don't go for a really strong toner. I tried a Clinique toner and it was horrible. It really stripped my skin, it felt so harsh and stank of alcohol Shock
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 7:00 pm      Reply with quote
steph2039 wrote:
HI,

I may be completely wrong, but I thought the purpose of toner was to set the correct ph of your skin after cleansing.

Stephanie


I was told like this too.

Yazzy i agree with you on Clinique! It's horrible Sad
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 7:16 pm      Reply with quote
Toner is suppose to
- remove the cleanser/makeup residue
- restore the skin's ph
- prepares the skin for moisturizer

I also find that wiping my face with cotton pad soaked with toner help to remove the small flakies.
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 8:21 pm      Reply with quote
I do feel a bit better in knowing I wasn't completely wrong in the ph thing. I guess now I have to figure out which new one to try.

I guess I can add a new toner to my list of things to try. Dr. Hauschka (I'm really tempted by this entire line of products), Obagi, as well as at least one product from every other line I haven't tried. This forum has NOT been good for my credit card. Smile

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Tue Feb 08, 2005 3:20 am      Reply with quote
A good toner can normalise the Ph but it depends on the toner - some are awful and can make the skin even more unbalanced. Agree Clinique toner is vile stuff! I prefer herbal/moisturising types and avoid anything with alcohol in as I find even on oily skin, it strips it so much the skin goes into overdrive to compensate and you end up oilier! (Hence why I hate Clinique!!).

My Favourite is actually Liz Earle Instant Boost Skin Tonic as it's refreshing as a spritz and moisturising as well as smelling gorg!
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Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:46 am      Reply with quote
I always hate adding extra steps to my beuty regime. Do you think I still need a toner if I use the Clarisonic?
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Mon Jul 20, 2009 1:58 pm      Reply with quote
I think the toner is necessary. It can help to absorb moisturizer. Some toner can also cleanse the dead skin and residue of cleanser such as clinique clarifying lotion.
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Mon Sep 07, 2009 5:48 am      Reply with quote
I use the toner after I cleanse the makeup to make sure the all trace of makeup is cleaned off. I don't use the toner in the morning, only pm when I take off my makeup.
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Mon Sep 07, 2009 6:19 am      Reply with quote
To me, the toner water has the following 3 purposes:

1) to better clean again after cleansing
2) to moisturise the skin of the face again
3) to make the followed skin care serum and cream better absorbed
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I've always been told that toner was for clearing out your pores--that it was "deep" cleansing and good for blackheads. But that's also why I've rarely used it, as I always thought it can be drying and result in more oil production. (And yeah, I've used Clinique--maybe I thought all toners were like that.) I'm quite interested in the PH thing, though. Does anyone know if the DIY toners (like ACV toner) can restore skin's PH?

And now I'm wondering if I'm confused on one point. Is toner the same as astringent?

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I;ve got very dry skin and have some facial eczema when i'm stressed and I'd never found a toner that my skin could tolerate.

Did a bit of research and helped by the brilliant diy recepies on this site I made my own very gentle but effective toner.

I make some green tea with one tea bag. Let it cool then add some aloe vera gel, touch of crushed asprin and a little lavendar and rosehip oil (you can use any oils that your skin likes). It gives my skin that ultra clean feeling without stinging or drying and of course it's very cheap!!

I keep it in the fridge as it's really refreshing when cool.
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Tue Sep 08, 2009 8:11 am      Reply with quote
I understand that it's suppose to clean off any residue not remove thru cleansing and to prep the skin for moisturiser.
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Wed Sep 09, 2009 6:24 am      Reply with quote
Toners have different emphasis, but basiclly, they are meant to:
balance the PH of skin,
remove the excess and remaining dirt on the face after cleaning,
hydrate skin, while the cleaning phase will carry away a lot of moisture
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Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:08 am      Reply with quote
I use the toner with a piece of cotton pad to reclean my face, because sometimes normal face cleanser could not clean our face totally and therefore left some dirty on our face.
Besides, some toner includes alcohol could help us to reduce the pore.
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According to Obagi, toner quickly adjusts the skin's pH balance for better penetration of treatment products.

If the pH is not balanced, it can take about 3 hours for your skin to become balanced.

From Dr. Denese, using toner removes all remaining traces of dirt and grime that your cleanser may have missed.

I enjoy toners. I can tell when I don't use one. I doesn't have a squeaky clean feeling that I love especially since I'm oily.
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Fri Sep 11, 2009 1:24 am      Reply with quote
I either apply the toner directly to my face, or I will transfer to a spray bottle. I have tried using cotton pad but find that it absorb away the toner and ended up having to use a lot more.
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Fri Sep 11, 2009 3:11 am      Reply with quote
I've read too that it is important to use toner to correct the PH of the skin after cleansing, it also enables your skin to abosrb creams and serums better.

I'm guessing they shouldn't contain any alcohol. I use Liz Earle's toner. I use it in a spray bottle. It seems to calm the skin and is said to add a fine layer of moisture.
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Fri Sep 11, 2009 8:12 am      Reply with quote
I use cotton pad to apply the toner to my face.It help clean the face, and make the cream easier to be absorbed.
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I use cotton pad to apply the toner to my face.It help clean the face, and make the cream easier to be absorbed.
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Does anyone know if using a 2 in 1 facial cleanser (with toner) is as effective as using a toner alone? I am currently using MD Skincare all in one facial cleanser with toner and wondering if I should switch over to using a separate toner after cleansing?

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Sat Sep 12, 2009 1:49 am      Reply with quote
Some toners are for double cleansing, while some are just for moisturizing.
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