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Thu May 01, 2014 10:23 am |
Sorry to hear that it didnt work for you Aprile.
I consider my skin to be dry and sensitive and although I found tria drying at first my skin now (at 4 weeks in) feels no dryer than usual.
Overall I'm very pleased with the effects so far, I dont have broken capillaries on my face so cant comment but there are some on the décolletage area so I'll be keeping an eye on those! |
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Thu May 01, 2014 10:53 am |
Lunar6 wrote: |
Sorry to hear that it didnt work for you Aprile.
I consider my skin to be dry and sensitive and although I found tria drying at first my skin now (at 4 weeks in) feels no dryer than usual.
Overall I'm very pleased with the effects so far, I dont have broken capillaries on my face so cant comment but there are some on the décolletage area so I'll be keeping an eye on those! |
Hi Lunar,
Yeah me too. But yes do keep an eye because it was at the end of the 8-week cycle that my skin got dried out like a prune. Fine lines and wrinkles more pronounced. Suffice it to say, it just wasn't for me. But I have noticed that some in the skincare world are now against lasers and are no longer recommending them. ~ Aprile |
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twopearls
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Thu May 01, 2014 11:06 am |
"...But I have noticed that some in the skincare world are now against lasers and are no longer recommending them. ~ Aprile"
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Can you cite where you've seen this. I'd be interested to read what they have to say. Thanks. |
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Thu May 01, 2014 1:15 pm |
twopearls wrote: |
"...But I have noticed that some in the skincare world are now against lasers and are no longer recommending them. ~ Aprile"
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Can you cite where you've seen this. I'd be interested to read what they have to say. Thanks. |
Actually, I should correct... I believe I may have heard this from one of our EDS members who attended the ACAM show. She said that many of the skincare professionals there, some who were doctors, were discouraging the use of lasers. Which she found curious. Could be because of adverse affects. Not saying this holds true for everyone, but not everyone responds the same. you see people here complaining about broken caps. I have read for people of color, lasers are definitely a no no because of hyper pigmentation issues. But I'll see if I can find some info from some notable docs when I get a chance who aren't ALL IN on lasering. I think it's important to note that it does create these tiny holes in the dermis. You have to wonder if that's really as benign as they make it sound. I believe that retinol use and the lasering disrupted my skin mantle. I now have rosacea which I never had before in my life. Best, Aprile |
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Paula-D
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Fri May 02, 2014 9:06 am |
aprile wrote: |
havana8 wrote: |
re-posting for Paula-D
Paula-D wrote: |
Hi Everyone,
I bought a Tria anti age laser from the shopping channel two weeks ago. First week I used it on level 1 for five days. Second week on level 2 for 4 days. Just started on level 3. The two and a half minutes for each zone feels like a long time. My question to you lovely people is this.
Have any of you used it on the neck and hands. What results have you had?
My main concern for using this device is for civatte (broken capillaries on the face and neck) I am worried that this treatment is making it worse. Can anyone advise?
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Hi Paula,
I would say that it's entirely possible that you are experiencing worsening of broken caps using the Tria laser. A friend of mine stopped using hers for this very reason, although I don't believe Tria will acknowledge this issue. I believe someone else mentioned this. If you are still in your 90-day warranty, which it sounds like you are, you should be able to return it if you are unhappy. Personally, I a saw brief lessening of fine lines after 1 round (8-week session) which was just temporary due to inflammation. I my opinion the Tria is not for people like me who have ultra sensitive skin. But another thing to note is that the laser is putting microscopic pin holes into the skin. So if one is very dry to begin with like me, it's also not a good thing. I just sold my Tria on Ebay. From this point forward, I will be concentrating on all things hydrating for my over 50 year old skin. I have found microcurrent masks and steaming to be the best bets for me. Next I am purchasing a professional galvanic unit to drive product deeper into the skin for increased hydration and skin plumping. No more Sahara Desert skin for me. Lol. Best, Aprile |
Thanks for your reply Aprile, now I am really worried. I wanted someone to answer who has had good results with the broken capillaries. Dryness redness etc.. isn't worrying me at this time. But I can see your point. I have never had any in salon treatments so I can't compare. Besides i'm too scared. Isn't the tria the same technology used for capillaries? I thought it was and would help. :/ |
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Fri May 02, 2014 9:49 am |
Paula-D wrote: |
aprile wrote: |
havana8 wrote: |
re-posting for Paula-D
Paula-D wrote: |
Hi Everyone,
I bought a Tria anti age laser from the shopping channel two weeks ago. First week I used it on level 1 for five days. Second week on level 2 for 4 days. Just started on level 3. The two and a half minutes for each zone feels like a long time. My question to you lovely people is this.
Have any of you used it on the neck and hands. What results have you had?
My main concern for using this device is for civatte (broken capillaries on the face and neck) I am worried that this treatment is making it worse. Can anyone advise?
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Hi Paula,
I would say that it's entirely possible that you are experiencing worsening of broken caps using the Tria laser. A friend of mine stopped using hers for this very reason, although I don't believe Tria will acknowledge this issue. I believe someone else mentioned this. If you are still in your 90-day warranty, which it sounds like you are, you should be able to return it if you are unhappy. Personally, I a saw brief lessening of fine lines after 1 round (8-week session) which was just temporary due to inflammation. I my opinion the Tria is not for people like me who have ultra sensitive skin. But another thing to note is that the laser is putting microscopic pin holes into the skin. So if one is very dry to begin with like me, it's also not a good thing. I just sold my Tria on Ebay. From this point forward, I will be concentrating on all things hydrating for my over 50 year old skin. I have found microcurrent masks and steaming to be the best bets for me. Next I am purchasing a professional galvanic unit to drive product deeper into the skin for increased hydration and skin plumping. No more Sahara Desert skin for me. Lol. Best, Aprile |
Thanks for your reply Aprile, now I am really worried. I wanted someone to answer who has had good results with the broken capillaries. Dryness redness etc.. isn't worrying me at this time. But I can see your point. I have never had any in salon treatments so I can't compare. Besides i'm too scared. Isn't the tria the same technology used for capillaries? I thought it was and would help. :/ |
I don't know Paula. All I know is that I've seen others on these boards who have experienced broken caps using Tria, and one person PMd me about it and like I mentioned, my friend also stopped using Tria because it happened to her. She was adament that she never had them prior to using Tria. I cannot speak for what the techology is supposed to do, but it sure is concerning. Hmmm. Best, Aprile |
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Sat May 03, 2014 2:43 am |
twopearls wrote: |
"...But I have noticed that some in the skincare world are now against lasers and are no longer recommending them. ~ Aprile"
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Can you cite where you've seen this. I'd be interested to read what they have to say. Thanks. |
You might want to take a look at the ipl and laser damage support website. This one will take you to the stories of those harmed by cosmetic medical devices: iplandlaserdamagesupport.prophpbb.com
Some of the stories are truly heartbreaking. |
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Sun May 04, 2014 7:23 pm |
Dear Tria friends,
I have been using my device for over one year. I also had rosascea several years ago, had it treated 2x and did not return for maintenance as they suggested (costly).
Also had an IPL treatment but still several broken capilleries still remained.
I do not have any rosascea nor do I have any capilleries since using my Tria.
My skin is very dry so I need a rich cream at night. It is so important to moisturize well and also to always use a high SPF to prevent pigmentation since we worked so hard getting rid of them.
My skin is not sensitive to level 3 anymore and is not flaky dry during treatment. Yey
Hope this helps with some of your concerns.
And yes, there is visible improvement as soon as a few weeks into the first round. |
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Mon May 05, 2014 10:40 am |
2Maria wrote: |
Dear Tria friends,
I have been using my device for over one year. I also had rosascea several years ago, had it treated 2x and did not return for maintenance as they suggested (costly).
Also had an IPL treatment but still several broken capilleries still remained.
I do not have any rosascea nor do I have any capilleries since using my Tria.
My skin is very dry so I need a rich cream at night. It is so important to moisturize well and also to always use a high SPF to prevent pigmentation since we worked so hard getting rid of them.
My skin is not sensitive to level 3 anymore and is not flaky dry during treatment. Yey
Hope this helps with some of your concerns.
And yes, there is visible improvement as soon as a few weeks into the first round. |
Hi 2Maria,
Its definitely good to see that not everyone with rosacea or broken caps finds the Tria too strong. No doubt everyone's experience will be different because not everyone has the same skin type. Those with thicker skin, regardless of whether it is dry or not might tolerate laser better. Also, I've been told by an esty that if the skin has thinned (which mine definitely has), that means the skin mantle barrier has been compromised. Imo, everyone using a laser should be cautious and check their skin for signs of irritation. I've been reading a lot about continuous inflammation cycle not being the best thing for the skin. Inflammation can disguise fine lines and wrinkles in the early going with the laser treatment that's for sure, which would account for success in the early going. Many members who were dermarolling have experienced this constant cascade of inflammation and healing not being the best thing. Not everyone is happy with the state of their skin as a result. Same thing applies for over-exfoliation of the skin via chemical action, i.e., Retin A. Best, Aprile |
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Fri May 16, 2014 8:05 am |
Hey Aprile
I was at the London anti aging exhibition last weekend and the Tria laser assistant told me that the engineer who designed the Philips Reaura had left the company and designed his own laser; the Tria. She had trained with him directly and was told that the Tria is significantly more powerful than the Reaura and they both work by BURNING HOLES INTO THE SKIN, but the Tria does it at a significantly greater rate than the Reaura.
She had two sessions with the Tria and had only good things to say about it. Her skin was remarkably clear. I also asked about laser damage to the the microcapillary system; the tiny vessels that feed the skin with nutrients and oxygen. Apparently lasers burn away these capillaries too. Anyone know what happens if you don't have microcapillaries on your face? does the immune system kick in and cause a reaction? Anyone can add more on why lasers are falling out of favour. |
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Fri May 16, 2014 8:53 am |
Hi hussar01
Wow this is very telling indeed. I would have to think that many people have experienced undesirable side effects using both lasers. I had thought at first using the device only on level 1 that my skin looked more refined at first. Only to realize later that it was due to the slight inflammation that occurs. Could be the assistant has thicker skin and is younger than me so it hasn't adversely affected her. Everyone is different. As for me, I am now onto steaming, microcurrent and recently purchased a professional galvanic machine that is awesome. My skin has literally been transformed using it with serums and masks. Galvanic penetrates the products into the skin and helps skin maintain the moisture, which I desperately needed. Honestly, it has eliminated some fine lines, reduced some deeper wrinkles and plumped up my skin significantly in two uses. Also, the rosacea patch has literally disappeared. I would NEVER use a laser on my skin again. It's just not worth it. Best, Aprile |
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Fri May 16, 2014 8:55 am |
'Anyone know what happens if you don't have microcapillaries on your face'
Hussar, I guess tissue would die without a blood supply...then again I'm thinking the rationale behind using a laser to create small amounts of damage is to stimulate the growth of new tissue and new blood vessels? |
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Sat May 17, 2014 9:42 am |
Could be Lunar, but the risk is that with the micro holes in the skin, there is always the chance that you will have dehydrated skin. Also, as previously mentioned, my friend who is younger than me by about 10 years experienced broken caps as a result of using the Tria laser. She stopped using it. |
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Sat May 17, 2014 10:20 am |
appreciate the heads up Aprile and Im being very vigilant for broken capillaries, so far so good 6 weeks in and I'm very pleased with the results. |
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Sat May 17, 2014 1:10 pm |
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appreciate the heads up Aprile and Im being very vigilant for broken capillaries, so far so good 6 weeks in and I'm very pleased with the results. |
Yes its best to keep an eye out. Hopefully,it doesn't happen to you. My friend has very delicate Irish skin.. |
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4myhealth
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Tue May 27, 2014 3:54 pm |
aprile wrote: |
Hi hussar01
Wow this is very telling indeed. I would have to think that many people have experienced undesirable side effects using both lasers. I had thought at first using the device only on level 1 that my skin looked more refined at first. Only to realize later that it was due to the slight inflammation that occurs. Could be the assistant has thicker skin and is younger than me so it hasn't adversely affected her. Everyone is different. As for me, I am now onto steaming, microcurrent and recently purchased a professional galvanic machine that is awesome. My skin has literally been transformed using it with serums and masks. Galvanic penetrates the products into the skin and helps skin maintain the moisture, which I desperately needed. Honestly, it has eliminated some fine lines, reduced some deeper wrinkles and plumped up my skin significantly in two uses. Also, the rosacea patch has literally disappeared. I would NEVER use a laser on my skin again. It's just not worth it. Best, Aprile |
Can you tell me which Galvanic machine you purchased and where you purchased it from? I was looking into the Tria, but after reading what happened to you I have changed my mind. Thank you for your help |
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Wed May 28, 2014 3:21 pm |
4myhealth wrote: |
aprile wrote: |
Hi hussar01
Wow this is very telling indeed. I would have to think that many people have experienced undesirable side effects using both lasers. I had thought at first using the device only on level 1 that my skin looked more refined at first. Only to realize later that it was due to the slight inflammation that occurs. Could be the assistant has thicker skin and is younger than me so it hasn't adversely affected her. Everyone is different. As for me, I am now onto steaming, microcurrent and recently purchased a professional galvanic machine that is awesome. My skin has literally been transformed using it with serums and masks. Galvanic penetrates the products into the skin and helps skin maintain the moisture, which I desperately needed. Honestly, it has eliminated some fine lines, reduced some deeper wrinkles and plumped up my skin significantly in two uses. Also, the rosacea patch has literally disappeared. I would NEVER use a laser on my skin again. It's just not worth it. Best, Aprile |
Can you tell me which Galvanic machine you purchased and where you purchased it from? I was looking into the Tria, but after reading what happened to you I have changed my mind. Thank you for your help |
Hi Myhealth,
Sure happy to share. I purchased the Equipro model. The machine is absolutely the bomb for driving product into the skin. It literally "cured" my dry skin so much so that I now feel a slightly oily t-zone on my face by the end of the day. I have probably used it about five times. I used it with the Multi-Vitamin Mask from Dermalogica with a conductive gel on top. I cannot tell you how happy I am! Plus, the results get even better over time. Here's the link: They have it on sale right now.
http://www.massagetools.com/galvanic-ioniderm-facial-machine.html?gclid=CjgKEAjwkpacBRCNlprWw-u-nBwSJACwHiw-utebQr4MAFH6QuxDCQIoevqzR4gDHiUge5GzTw30JfD_BwE
Wishing you all the best,
Aprile |
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Sun Jun 08, 2014 5:53 am |
I thought I'd post an update.
I've finished the 2 months of daily treatment at level 3 and am now a week into the 4 week break, I still have some little brown specs.
Mt skin feels significantly softer and overall looks very good.
Skin care wise I'm not doing anything different, just keeping it simple and basic.
Olive oil thickened with beeswax as am emollient, hot water and a cloth for cleansing and factor 50 for sun protection.
No broken capillaries, no dryness, I'm very pleased |
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JeanneAlice
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Sun Jun 08, 2014 9:28 am |
I absolutely LOVE the tria! I am 67 and had jowls and furrows between the eyes. The tria was not good for the furrows (I have purchased nuface to see it that helps for that) BUT the jowls are much less and my face is fuller (NOT fatter!) like when I was younger..it FEELS different after the eight weeks and looks more...I guess I would say fresh. I used it on the #3 and that was fine for me, but someone with thinner skin may prefer the #2. At first it seemed to make my face look a little swollen but then as I continued, it actually rejuvenated it. Don't give up! My friend saw that and sent it back after a week, now she is sorry when she sees my face. I wish someone would tell me if they used the nuface too, I just got mine with the ele attachment and hope that will work with the furrows. In any case, it's YES to the tria! |
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Sun Jun 08, 2014 2:24 pm |
Jeanne, same here, my face seemed very slightly swollen at first but now rejuvenated is the word I'd use to describe the effects of the tria.
Have you considered botox for the lines between the eyes? |
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Mon Jun 09, 2014 9:02 am |
Hello all,
I am a tria owner although my useage as been inconsistant due to active acne and a few other niggles not really down to problems with the Tria. I have just purchased the dermawand it was a good price and I am hoping it can help with weight loss sagging on my face as well as to clear up and prevent acne.
I would really like to be able to use both the tria and the dermawand either on the same day or within a day or 2 of each other but I am unsure if this is a good idea or if it would be counter productive. Certianly it seems derm offices and spas offer things like fraxel and radio high frequency treatments together on the same day but how does that pan out for longer term use?
Any advice or insight is most welcome! |
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JeanneAlice
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Tue Jun 10, 2014 10:10 am |
Yes, tried botox. All that did was kind of push my eyebrows down and gave me a weird look. Unfortunately I had to wait a few months to get back to normal. I just started the nuface with the ele attachment for the furrows (hate them!) and will keep you posted on any results. I too, like many here, just lost 15 pounds and need to lose another 30 or so. At 67 years old, things don't snap back like they used to, so I am being aggressive with the tria and nuface. I'm in the four week break and will start the tria again. |
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eharrison
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Sun Jun 15, 2014 11:23 am |
Hi PicklePeach - I created an account on this forum just to ask you how your melasma is doing with the trio age defying laster? I'm 40, with slightly olive skin and have melasma on my upper lip too - I've been using the Tria for 4 weeks now and can't tell if it's getting better. It seems like part of it has faded, but other parts seem like the color is changing. I don't know if it's getting pulled to the surface to be expelled or if it's getting worse. On the definite plus side my adult acne (I've had it for 20 years and seen dozens of useless dermatologists and tried everything) has improved by 90% - it's amazing. I don't even have to use my prescription topical medications on that anymore. But would LOVE to hear your update about the melasma - or from anyone else as well??... |
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picklepeach
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Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:18 pm |
Hi eharrison!
I seem to not receive updates on this thread to my emails even though I've checked the box, "Notify me ..."
I was VERY happy and surprised to peruse the end of the thread to find your message! And, thank you for setting up the account just to post a message to me, lol! I have not come across anyone (review-wise) with "our" profile of olive skin type, melasma, in our 40's using the Tria ADL. I hope we can keep each other posted on our progress.
From what you're experiencing, I have found to be similar in my situation - some improvement, yet balanced by a worsening in other areas (hopefully a temporary outcome due to the laser).
Here's where I am at ... I'm keeping a calendar of my treatments because it's easy to lose track. I began the Tria ADL in April, used it pretty regularly on level 3 for about 5 days a week for about 4 weeks. I noticed an overall darkening of my skin (which I assumed was a lot of melanin/brown dots being expelled from my skin - expecting those to exfoliate away within a couple weeks). My sister-in-law blurted out "why do you look so dark?!" I kind of laughed because of how she put it so bluntly, and also at myself for doing this "laser" at home!
In May, going onto my 5th week, with my daughter's graduation coming up at the end of the month, I cut down the treatments to 3 and 4 days a week. My skin reacts very quickly to the treatment, leaving visible streaks and spots of darkness (melanin) the following morning and will progressively get darker as I keep layering on the treatments.
By the end of May, I had taken a full 7 days off, which allowed my skin to recover, exfoliate, and it looked pretty good, smooth, less fine lines around the eyes (I didn't have much, but I can see improvement in pictures), lightening of at least one certain sunspot I've had my eye on, as well as lightening of sunspots/pigmentation along my nose area. My melasma, above my lip, like you, has changed throughout the treatment, sometimes larger (appeared to spread), and sometimes smaller, yet darker. I'm still hopeful and willing to treat with the Tria carefully, yet consistently on these areas. I can see melanin "dots" on top of the area...which makes me think that the melasma could move to the surface and potentially lighten.
My skin is sluggish to exfoliation and cell turnover (the dots that would stay on one person for 7 days, would probably hang on my skin for 14 days). I am an esthetician and have professional masks, vitamin C's, and glycolic peels, use a Clarisonic, enzyme washes, retinols, etc. to help exfoliate the dead skin off and brighten - I go gently, yet consistently with the added surface treatments.
By June, I've struggled to keep a regular schedule with the Tria - a lot of it has to do with my not wanting to have the streaks or darkness the following day. I roughly finished my "Week 8" going 2 days on, 3 days off ... 3 days on, 4 days off, etc. ... I'm calling this my Week 9, starting tonight.
Oh, and as for the under eye concealer, definitely I have not had to use as much or even went without through the treatment thus far. I also noticed the whites of my eyes being totally white on many of the days, which is really odd - even when they should be reddish/bloodshot from lack of sleep or too much to drink the night before
Ok, I know this is a loooong post, but eharrison, I really appreciate your message and signing up. I check the Sephora, Amazon, and Google Search "Tria Age Defying Laser" all the time .. trying to see what other results people are experiencing.
I will keep you posted |
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