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Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:38 am |
Hi all. I would love to hear some feedback. I was wondering since face massage is so popular and suppost to have good benefits, HOW HARD ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO PRESS? I know that your supposed to press firmly and use oils not too stretch the skin, but is it possible to still press too hard even with oils? And How much can our skin take of pulling and tuggin before it does not snap back anymore? Is it possible to stretch our skin so it does not return to normal after just a few massaged or would this take a long time to do? I know after massive weight loss our stomachs etc sometimes don't go back, but i also wonder about our face. Any ideas? |
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Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:43 am |
You will get different viewpoints on this depending on who you ask, but I would imagine that starting out whilst you are learning you don’t need to press very hard. In some ways it depends what your goals are – are you for example dealing with bone loss etc, because if you were then you probably want to press hard to stimulate the bone, but if you a youngster then you don’t need to press that hard.
How much can the skin take, well don’t forget the kind of stretching/tugging/pulling you do with a faical massage isn’t a prolonged stretch. I’ve often heard the example of how massaging the face is bad because it’s the same as when you carry a child – and that’s nonsense (and I have three children so have been there). That’s prolonged and continuous stretching, not the same kind as when you do facial massage.
With weight loss the skin does go back but after a while sometimes it seems to take very long but it does happen |
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Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:10 am |
Thanks Theresa Mary for you reply. What age do you think the skin really starts to lose that snap back? Like i know its better to have children when your younger. Would it start osing more elasticity in 30's or maybe 40's or even 50's? Thanks again |
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Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:30 am |
yassy wrote: |
Thanks Theresa Mary for you reply. What age do you think the skin really starts to lose that snap back? Like i know its better to have children when your younger. Would it start osing more elasticity in 30's or maybe 40's or even 50's? Thanks again |
It's often around the menopause, but can be any time because it depends how much damage has been done through smoking, UV exposure, poor diet and of course genetics. |
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Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:34 am |
Firefox is it actually possible to keep your skin youthful in the sense that it doesnt lose fat/laxity or whatever it is called? do products like vit c and retinoids actually affect things like that or just the surface? |
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Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:24 am |
I don’t think theres an age set in stone for the time that anyone loses elasticity because we’re all very different. I do think Firefox is somewhat right in that the “menopause” is often what we hear most about, but that’s not to say that its only menopausal women who get that, as I know of young women these days who aren’t in menopause but exhibit certain things like loss of elasticity too. Its usually a combo of factors.
It is possible to keep skin youthful in a sense that it doesn’t lose fat or laxity – well to me they’re both very different things. Yes Vit C and retinoids (and Retin) are great for helping with this, but they’re not the only thing. Things like unhealthy lifestyle, diets etc all have a contributing effect too. |
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Tue Jul 24, 2012 11:42 pm |
The reason the skin starts to loose elasticity around menopause is that the oestrogen levels in the body drop permanently. There is no way to really avoid this happening as it is a hormonal thing. However as Firefox says there are other contributing factors that may make your skin loose elasticity that can be avoided. |
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Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:15 am |
Thats one of the common reasons, but its not the only reason every woman out there loses elasticity. For example if your perimenopausal, you get all that good stuff early on before you should, and thats not always because of hormones but can be linked to other things too.
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The reason the skin starts to loose elasticity around menopause is that the oestrogen levels in the body drop permanently. There is no way to really avoid this happening as it is a hormonal thing. However as Firefox says there are other contributing factors that may make your skin loose elasticity that can be avoided. |
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Thu Jul 26, 2012 5:51 am |
Would estrogen creams help in terms of anti aging? Im not sure if you can apply them to the face. |
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Thu Jul 26, 2012 5:56 am |
I wouldn't think so, but you shouldn't put estrogen cream on your face without checking with a doc first because it could have all sorts of strange effects that you don't want, so my advice would be to avoid at all costs!!!!
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Would estrogen creams help in terms of anti aging? Im not sure if you can apply them to the face. |
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Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:04 am |
You can use estrogen cream on face - get the Rx kind as it actually has a significant amount of hormone. There was a study on Medscape that showed a significant increase in skin thickness in post-menopausal women who used estrogen cream on the face. |
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Thu Jul 26, 2012 8:00 am |
Please check with your derm/doc before doing this - as not all creams are the same and some have given people disasterous results that we all want to avoid!
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You can use estrogen cream on face - get the Rx kind as it actually has a significant amount of hormone. There was a study on Medscape that showed a significant increase in skin thickness in post-menopausal women who used estrogen cream on the face. |
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Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:41 am |
yassy wrote: |
Hi all. I would love to hear some feedback. I was wondering since face massage is so popular and suppost to have good benefits, HOW HARD ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO PRESS? |
The answer is very individual. If you have great skin to begin with, you can be rather aggressive whether you use massage, Vacu-Lifters, etc.
However, if you are much older, have a poor skin recovery time, etc., starting off gentle is best, then work your way up.
The goal is to increase circulation and make the skin healthy, but like any form of "exercise" or "challenge", you have to find the right balance between stimulation and recovery/rest. If you do it more intensely or often than is appropriate for your skin, that's when you can run into problems with exceeding your body's ability to repair the skin and make it healthier.
So it's very much a task of experimentation to find out what's best for you.
HTH |
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Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:29 am |
I massage my face once a week and it helps improve circulation on my face/neck. Do not press hard... Massaging helps improve the muscles and surrounding tissue... It has good benefits.... When you exercise your whole body, it tones it...
yassy wrote: |
Hi all. I would love to hear some feedback. I was wondering since face massage is so popular and suppost to have good benefits, HOW HARD ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO PRESS? I know that your supposed to press firmly and use oils not too stretch the skin, but is it possible to still press too hard even with oils? And How much can our skin take of pulling and tuggin before it does not snap back anymore? Is it possible to stretch our skin so it does not return to normal after just a few massaged or would this take a long time to do? I know after massive weight loss our stomachs etc sometimes don't go back, but i also wonder about our face. Any ideas? |
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