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havana8
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Sat Aug 04, 2012 5:41 pm  |
I don't have any opinion on the camera but wanted to say, what a great idea!  I'll be interested to hear what others have to say also... |
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Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:25 am |
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| I like that it looks like it measure pore size/density, pigmentation, keratin and skin flatness. |
Very interesting, CookieD! What does the device measure (quantify)? From looking at the pages, it looks like it is a high magnification camera, but I couldn't tell: does it do more than that? Because I got the impression that it gives you a subjective impression of the things you mentioned above via magnification, but that it does not measure them. |
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Sun Aug 05, 2012 9:28 am |
| cm5597 wrote: |
| CookieD wrote: |
| I like that it looks like it measure pore size/density, pigmentation, keratin and skin flatness. |
Very interesting, CookieD! What does the device measure (quantify)? From looking at the pages, it looks like it is a high magnification camera, but I couldn't tell: does it do more than that? Because I got the impression that it gives you a subjective impression of the things you mentioned above via magnification, but that it does not measure them. |
Hi CM, if you look at the YouTube video it looks like there is some software that comes with it that measures and tracks all the items on the left side of the screen(skin color,pigmentation,grease, pore density/size and skin flatness) There is a scale on the right side of the video with a rating number and a high/low rating scale. Also a summary page later in the video that can be kept and exported to word where you could keep track of your progress or lack of. It also looks like it can keep a high definition photographic record of skin changes.
The video is kind of confusing and I'm not sure how to "read" the summary report but it does look like it can capture your skin information and track it over a period of time. To me it looks like it maybe more accurate then the guessing I'm trying to do. I did find another product made by kc technology underwww.kcscopes.com it looks more expensive but I was not able to find a price. |
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Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:04 am |
| CookieD wrote: |
| cm5597 wrote: |
| CookieD wrote: |
| I like that it looks like it measure pore size/density, pigmentation, keratin and skin flatness. |
Very interesting, CookieD! What does the device measure (quantify)? From looking at the pages, it looks like it is a high magnification camera, but I couldn't tell: does it do more than that? Because I got the impression that it gives you a subjective impression of the things you mentioned above via magnification, but that it does not measure them. |
Hi CM, if you look at the YouTube video it looks like there is some software that comes with it that measures and tracks all the items on the left side of the screen(skin color,pigmentation,grease, pore density/size and skin flatness) There is a scale on the right side of the video with a rating number and a high/low rating scale. Also a summary page later in the video that can be kept and exported to word where you could keep track of your progress or lack of. It also looks like it can keep a high definition photographic record of skin changes.
The video is kind of confusing and I'm not sure how to "read" the summary report but it does look like it can capture your skin information and track it over a period of time. To me it looks like it maybe more accurate then the guessing I'm trying to do. I did find another product made by kc technology underwww.kcscopes.com it looks more expensive but I was not able to find a price. |
Ah, I didn't look at the video (husband was still sleeping so I didn't want to wake him up). Very interesting. So it does measure and rate these things. I, too, am curious how accurate it is. Let me know if you decide to buy it, CookieD |
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Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:58 am |
Will do CM. It would be nice if I could find some reviews but since it isn't that expensive I might buy it anyway and see. If it could tell me that a $20 serum works as good as a $200 serum it would be well worth it.
Hope someone chimes in who might have seen or used it before. |
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Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:06 am |
Maybe this should be a mandatory purchase for everyone at EDS!!
The only thing is, it seems to just give an analysis of the surface of the skin - so it's not measuring collagen and elastin. But it's so cheap it's probably worth getting. Maybe it would help figure out if something is actually making a difference to the skin. |
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Tue Aug 07, 2012 7:52 am |
| Keliu wrote: |
Maybe this should be a mandatory purchase for everyone at EDS!!
The only thing is, it seems to just give an analysis of the surface of the skin - so it's not measuring collagen and elastin. But it's so cheap it's probably worth getting. Maybe it would help figure out if something is actually making a difference to the skin. |
Yes, we should negotiate a bulk buying discount and equip everyone with one of these! 
It really would come in useful for those products where your skin just looks somehow better but you can't quite put your finger on the change. At least, this might allow some degree of measurement of the changes and prove to the user that the subtle good effects they are seeing are not just wishful thinking.
As you say, the price is actually pretty inexpensive. I thought it would cost more than that. |
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Tue Aug 07, 2012 7:53 am |
| Keliu wrote: |
Maybe this should be a mandatory purchase for everyone at EDS!!
The only thing is, it seems to just give an analysis of the surface of the skin - so it's not measuring collagen and elastin. But it's so cheap it's probably worth getting. Maybe it would help figure out if something is actually making a difference to the skin. |
Yes, we should negotiate a bulk buying discount and equip everyone with one of these!
It really would come in useful for those products where your skin just looks somehow better but you can't quite put your finger on the change. At least, this might allow some degree of measurement of the changes and prove to the user that the subtle good effects they are seeing are not just wishful thinking - or otherwise.
As you say, the price is actually pretty inexpensive. I thought it would cost more than that. |
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Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:09 am |
| Keliu wrote: |
Maybe this should be a mandatory purchase for everyone at EDS!!
The only thing is, it seems to just give an analysis of the surface of the skin - so it's not measuring collagen and elastin. But it's so cheap it's probably worth getting. Maybe it would help figure out if something is actually making a difference to the skin. |
There are skin scopes that measure collagen and elasticy but they are a least $350 dollars and I haven't been able to actually see the software in action(like a YouTube video etc). So I not real comfortable in knowing exactly what they are capable of. Here is a link. You can look at it and see what you think. This particular model can come with an eye,skin or hair scope. It says it does 3D skin images which is kind of cool. It is a lot more expensive though.
http://www.iridology-camera.com/sdp/556049/4/pd-2886912/9961747-1549608/NEW_5_0_MP_High_Resolution_USB_Skin_Scope_Analysis.html |
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Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:41 am |
If we did a bulk buy on this more inexpensive one, I'd definitely be in!
I'd like to see at least a couple of reliable reviews first though. It seems too good to be true for such a low price. |
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Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:34 am |
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| It seems too good to be true for such a low price. |
That was my reaction, too. That's why I thought that it did more of a subjective assessment of skin, because I haven't seen anything yet that quantifies multiple measures of skin health in that price range. Even my scalar moisture checker (measures only skin hydration) cost over $100 and that was deeply on sale. |
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Thu Sep 13, 2012 6:04 am |
| Cookie - did you end up buying this? |
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Fri Sep 14, 2012 4:38 am |
| Keliu wrote: |
| Cookie - did you end up buying this? |
No, I kind of forgot about it. |
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