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Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:04 am  |
Has shampoo ever matted your hair?
If so, what did you do remedy it?
And what do you do now when shampooing to prevent such a thing from happening again? |
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Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:56 pm |
| I don't think I understand what the phrase "matted your hair" means, lol. Are you talking about build up? |
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Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:31 pm |
Here's a picture of matted hair:
http://ras_richard.tripod.com/locksman.jpg
My hair is not this matted, but you get the idea.
When hair mats, it is severely tangled and can look a lot like dreadlocks or yarn. |
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Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:12 pm |
| Well I would say that your using the wrong shampoo then? Or you have a loooootttt of build up. |
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Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:34 pm |
| teago wrote: |
| Well I would say that your using the wrong shampoo then? Or you have a loooootttt of build up. |
Has anything like that ever happened to you? |
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Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:55 pm |
I didn't think matting and tangling could be caused by a shampoo. 
But if you think it might be your shampoo, you could switch to a cleansing conditioner like wen, I guess? |
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Fri Nov 16, 2012 5:13 am |
I used to have long hair - I mean really long as in to my knees. Here is a trick that will help any of you with hair that is long enough to put in a braid.
First thoroughly brush your hair to loosen debris, dust etc and move oil along the shaft.
Then loosly braid hair. If you want to deep treat, this is a good time.
Wash you hair gently remembering that most of the stuff that needs to be washed out is near the roots. Gentle, gentle.
Rinse. Towel blot and let your hair dry at least halfway. You can keep towel blotting to hasten this as the water will naturally move towards the ends. Then take out the braid, spread you hair carefull with your fingers and let it air dry. You will find that you have very few if any tangles and you will not lose or break hair using this method.
Our foremothers did not wash their hair nearly so often, once a week was enough and my hairdresser says if you can get into that kind of routine your scalp will adjust and produce just the right amount of oil.
mismis |
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Sat Nov 17, 2012 3:01 pm |
| VeronicaM wrote: |
| teago wrote: |
| Well I would say that your using the wrong shampoo then? Or you have a loooootttt of build up. |
Has anything like that ever happened to you? |
Well no not really. It only happens when I add Dr. Bronners castile soap into a shampoo to make it extra cleansing - it strips my hair so therefore it isnt 'lubricated' and becomes sort of matted. But then you put on conditioner, comb through and its fine. |
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Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:52 am |
| teago wrote: |
| VeronicaM wrote: |
| teago wrote: |
| Well I would say that your using the wrong shampoo then? Or you have a loooootttt of build up. |
Has anything like that ever happened to you? |
Well no not really. It only happens when I add Dr. Bronners castile soap into a shampoo to make it extra cleansing - it strips my hair so therefore it isnt 'lubricated' and becomes sort of matted. But then you put on conditioner, comb through and its fine. |
I cringed at the mention of Castile soap because IMO it's very hard (harsh?) on hair. *shudder* And yes teago I am not surprised it causes your hair to tangle because it's very alkaline.
VeronicaM I think your problem might be that you are using a very alkaline shampoo. The outer surface of your hair strands (the cuticle) is made of scales that overlap.
When in an alkaline environment, the scales lift making strands rough so that they catch on each other more easily and therefore tangle. When in an acidic environment, the cuticle stays closed so strands are smoother and slide past each other easily. This is why shampoos that are acidic are better for your hair. (Incidentally the effect of pH on hair is used when kinky hair is relaxed. First the relaxer, an alkaline product, is applied to raise the cuticle allowing the relaxer to penetrate the strands and break bonds to straighten the hair. Then an acidic product, the Neutralizer, is applied to bring down the pH of the relaxer and stop the process as well as close the cuticle and return strands back to "normal".)
The next link gives you an idea of the pH of some shampoos. For those who don't know, pH is a measure of how acidic (or not) something is. A pH of 7 means the product neutral (neither acidic nor alkaline). All numbers over 7 imply alkaline and all under 7, acidic. The further away from 7 a pH number is the stronger the acidity or alkalinity of the product in question: http://www.thenaturalhavenbloom.com/2012/02/ph-of-shampoo-ultimate-list.html
If the reason you use a very alkaline shampoo is to clarify and remove buildup, you should check out Giovanni 50:50. It's "pH Balanced" which I believe means slightly acidic and yet cleans very well. In other words, it's gentle but effective. It is also sulfate-free for those who have an aversion to shampoos with sulfates, so it's a winner in every way. |
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Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:34 am |
I use castile soap for felting. Felt is made from wool, that is, the hair of sheep. Nonie described very well the process that is also used in felting, the opening of the cuticles to make tangling/felting possible.
Rinsing with vinegar (apple cider or other) or lemon juice works great to help with the tangling. Also, the roughness caused by too alkaline shampoo will make your hair look dull. That is why rinsing with vinegar gives such a nice shine - the hair fiber is smoothed which gives a nice gloss.
So if your hair tangles from your shampoo find another shampoo, or add a slosh of vinegar to it to make it less harsh. |
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Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:03 am |
| I've tried lemon juice and it makes hair very silky and manageable. I suggest using it when you need it... |
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Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:05 am |
| A hair conditioner after shampooing will help. |
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Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:21 am |
| Lotusesther wrote: |
I use castile soap for felting. Felt is made from wool, that is, the hair of sheep. Nonie described very well the process that is also used in felting, the opening of the cuticles to make tangling/felting possible.
Rinsing with vinegar (apple cider or other) or lemon juice works great to help with the tangling. Also, the roughness caused by too alkaline shampoo will make your hair look dull. That is why rinsing with vinegar gives such a nice shine - the hair fiber is smoothed which gives a nice gloss.
So if your hair tangles from your shampoo find another shampoo, or add a slosh of vinegar to it to make it less harsh. |
Yes, finishing your wash with an ACV rinse is very good for your hair. I have done this after every wash for over 8 years now. I add essential oils of lavender and rosemary to my rinse. Often I'll make the solution in a basin and dunk my head in it and massage my scalp to my heart's content in the solution. LOVE IT!!!
What I'd like to caution folks on is to make sure to dilute the Apple Cider Vineger (ACV) well. A strong acidic solution can cause the keratin in your hair to breakdown. So err on the side of caution by going very dilute. After all, even just a drop of ACV will make your water a touch more acidic.
I forgot to mention another thing that could help with your hair VeronicaM: getting a shower filter or water softener or both.
http://www.santeforhealth.com/shopcontent.asp?type=waterfiltercomparison |
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Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:11 am |
Hello Nonie aka AD  I may try ACV (since I have a bottle in the kitchen for salads) with lavender oils and rosemary oils. Never tried this combination.... Thanks!
| Nonie aka AD wrote: |
Yes, finishing your wash with an ACV rinse is very good for your hair. I have done this after every wash for over 8 years now. I add essential oils of lavender and rosemary to my rinse. Often I'll make the solution in a basin and dunk my head in it and massage my scalp to my heart's content in the solution. LOVE IT!!!
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Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:03 pm |
When I used a combo conditioner and shampoo for my thin, fine hair it became very flat and greasy looking. Now I either use Finesse or Everpure Volumizing and my hair gets nice and puffy.
I wish I had known the tip about braiding your hair before washing the scalp. In college my hair was oily and down to my waist. I used to just shampoo the scalp figuring everything would flow downward and clean the hair, which it did, without drying it. Still was a drag combing it afterwards though. |
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Sat Nov 24, 2012 6:03 am |
(I think) would be best if you are using conditioner that you only put it at the ends of hair as these are more proned to breakage and split-ends.
| SoftSkin wrote: |
| When I used a combo conditioner and shampoo for my thin, fine hair it became very flat and greasy looking. |
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