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Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:07 am      Reply with quote
That's good to know. I am sorely tempted to get one. Maybe I should wait a little while to see if you think it works.

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Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:19 am      Reply with quote
Here is a link to the user manual:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2768442/VENUS_Secret_User_Manual.pdf

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Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:23 am      Reply with quote
I remember this discussion about the Venus Secret gloves here on EDS but couldn't remember what stopped me for buying them....looking back it was said that the gloves needed to be replaced after 20 treatments. PQ wonder why?

http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=38577

http://www.wishpot.com/item.aspx?uid=164173&wid=15313724



http://www.amazon.com/Replacement-Gaiam-Exclusive-Reducing-Atlantic/dp/B0036R7994/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1362830786&sr=8-2&keywords=venus+secret+wrinkle+system


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GTcG1qkxJg

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Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:29 am      Reply with quote
Toby wrote:
I remember this discussion about the Venus Secret gloves here on EDS but couldn't remember what stopped me for buying them....looking back it was said that the gloves needed to be replaced after 20 treatments. PQ wonder why?

http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=38577

http://www.wishpot.com/item.aspx?uid=164173&wid=15313724



http://www.amazon.com/Replacement-Gaiam-Exclusive-Reducing-Atlantic/dp/B0036R7994/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1362830786&sr=8-2&keywords=venus+secret+wrinkle+system


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GTcG1qkxJg


Well remembered, but the gloves that come with the device, as long as you look after them, will last many years. I have used it 3 times now, and the gloves are great, very well made, in fact my hands are being treated too, so putting a collagen treatment on my hands before I put the gloves on.

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Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:31 am      Reply with quote
Toby wrote:
I remember this discussion about the Venus Secret gloves here on EDS but couldn't remember what stopped me for buying them....looking back it was said that the gloves needed to be replaced after 20 treatments. PQ wonder why?

http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=38577

http://www.wishpot.com/item.aspx?uid=164173&wid=15313724



http://www.amazon.com/Replacement-Gaiam-Exclusive-Reducing-Atlantic/dp/B0036R7994/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1362830786&sr=8-2&keywords=venus+secret+wrinkle+system


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GTcG1qkxJg


I think the link - replaced every 20 minutes is a typo.

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Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:06 am      Reply with quote
I missed it if this has been answered, but how does MC affect fillers? Thank you.

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Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:21 am      Reply with quote
have you seen this?

http://mymicrocurrenthealth.com/sample-page/

http://mymicrocurrenthealth.com/store/

haven't found it on EDS!
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Mars wrote:
I missed it if this has been answered, but how does MC affect fillers? Thank you.


I wouldn't use MC over fillers, as the physical action of the probes can disturb the product, and the current can have an affect on the product, too, but you can work around the areas with your probes. The same applies to botox.

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have you seen this?

http://mymicrocurrenthealth.com/sample-page/

http://mymicrocurrenthealth.com/store/

haven't found it on EDS!


I came across it ages ago, great summary but they are selling the Bio products, so it is sort of marketing tied in with MC theory. I don't know anything about the Bio products. PQ

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Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:36 pm      Reply with quote
photoqueen wrote:
Venus secrets DVD manual.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gmYU2G8qKk

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many thanks for posting this video PQ, - I had no idea how these gloves were used, whether you pinched the muslces or just pressed on the skin etc,

the treatment acutally looks quite pleasant,

Jackie xx
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photoqueen wrote:
Venus secrets DVD manual.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gmYU2G8qKk

PQ


many thanks for posting this video PQ, - I had no idea how these gloves were used, whether you pinched the muslces or just pressed on the skin etc,

the treatment acutally looks quite pleasant,

Jackie xx


I used it tonight, it is a really nice treatment.

PQxx

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Not sure if you have seen this device, it is a microcurrent device with gloves for $138.00, I have one so will review it for us.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Venus-Best-Face-Lift-Skin-Care-Eyes-Wrinkles-Anti-Aging-Age-Eye-/250932367690?pt=US_Skin_Care&hash=item3a6cbc114a

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Could you use a Amp Meter on the gloves to see if they deliver current correctly?
the neurotris people say that their gloves deliver better. they even showed a demo in this video http://youtu.be/oiKhHMVc4jU

This is what they're saying is the difference between their device and others made i China.
It would be really helpful for everyone if you could help us find out.

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Not sure if you have seen this device, it is a microcurrent device with gloves for $138.00, I have one so will review it for us.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Venus-Best-Face-Lift-Skin-Care-Eyes-Wrinkles-Anti-Aging-Age-Eye-/250932367690?pt=US_Skin_Care&hash=item3a6cbc114a

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Could you use a Amp Meter on the gloves to see if they deliver current correctly?
the neurotris people say that their gloves deliver better. they even showed a demo in this video http://youtu.be/oiKhHMVc4jU

This is what they're saying is the difference between their device and others made i China.
It would be really helpful for everyone if you could help us find out.


I have test them already, the gloves work really well, they deliver between 100-750uA, I am wearing rubber gloves underneath the gloves to stop all the current being directed to my hands.

Hope this helps.

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Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:27 am      Reply with quote
Let us know how it is for body treatments, that would be so cool if it fits that bill as well.

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Let us know how it is for body treatments, that would be so cool if it fits that bill as well.


Testing this weekend, speaking to the company about shipping spare gloves to the UK too.

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Could you use a Amp Meter on the gloves to see if they deliver current correctly?
the neurotris people say that their gloves deliver better. they even showed a demo in this video http://youtu.be/oiKhHMVc4jU

This is what they're saying is the difference between their device and others made i China.
It would be really helpful for everyone if you could help us find out.


I have test them already, the gloves work really well, they deliver between 100-750uA, I am wearing rubber gloves underneath the gloves to stop all the current being directed to my hands.

Hope this helps.

PQ


Well then I think I'm gonna buy it the Venus. There is a huge difference in the price. Also as it has been said before microcurrent is a relatively simple technology, from the Neurotris video it looks like the only thing they could focus on to justify the price is how conductive are the gloves. BUT AGAIN I MIGHT BE WRONG!!!

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Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:54 am      Reply with quote
Rubber gloves PQ-now that was inspired!!

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Hi, photoqueen, Do your hands get the benefits of the MC treatment while your wearing the rubber gloves? Thank you.

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Rubber gloves PQ-now that was inspired!!


I know the thin ones, you can get in packs of 20 from Tesco, they need to be very thin, to fit under the gloves, good job my mum introduced me to washing up at an early age.

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Hi, photoqueen, Do your hands get the benefits of the MC treatment while your wearing the rubber gloves? Thank you.


No, you leave the rubber gloves OFF is you want your hands to get the benefits. My hands are tingling after the treatment.

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photoqueen wrote:
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Could you use a Amp Meter on the gloves to see if they deliver current correctly?
the neurotris people say that their gloves deliver better. they even showed a demo in this video http://youtu.be/oiKhHMVc4jU

This is what they're saying is the difference between their device and others made i China.
It would be really helpful for everyone if you could help us find out.


I have test them already, the gloves work really well, they deliver between 100-750uA, I am wearing rubber gloves underneath the gloves to stop all the current being directed to my hands.

Hope this helps.

PQ


Well then I think I'm gonna buy it the Venus. There is a huge difference in the price. Also as it has been said before microcurrent is a relatively simple technology, from the Neurotris video it looks like the only thing they could focus on to justify the price is how conductive are the gloves. BUT AGAIN I MIGHT BE WRONG!!!


I am not sure as I have never used the Pico Toner, but the Venus, outputs microcurrent into gloves for £90.00, I will do more testing for you and report back.

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For only the finger tops of the Venus gloves are used I suppose they can not do much for the body.For me, with loose skin on arms, knees etc. it would be nice to be able to treat them too with the same device.
PQ do you mean an extra pair of gloves cost 99 £.
and where can you buy them? Do you treat the upper lip too?
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For only the finger tops of the Venus gloves are used I suppose they can not do much for the body.For me, with loose skin on arms, knees etc. it would be nice to be able to treat them too with the same device.
PQ do you mean an extra pair of gloves cost 99 £.
and where can you buy them? Do you treat the upper lip too?


No the machine is £99.00 from Amazon, the link the gloves are in the thread. The gloves are £7.00. The gloves look they will last for year and year.

You can use the gloves anywhere.

I have used the whole glove and not just the tips of the fingers, without any issues.

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For only the finger tops of the Venus gloves are used I suppose they can not do much for the body.For me, with loose skin on arms, knees etc. it would be nice to be able to treat them too with the same device.
PQ do you mean an extra pair of gloves cost 99 £.
and where can you buy them? Do you treat the upper lip too?


Gloves:

http://www.amazon.com/Replacement-Gaiam-Exclusive-Reducing-Atlantic/dp/B0036R7994/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1362830786&sr=8-2&keywords=venus+secret+wrinkle+system

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Hello
I am Patricia, NeurotriS Director of Sales & Training.
I was asked to explain “what is Second Generation Microcurrent”
Second Generation Microcurrent Technology US Patent # 8,340,756 B2.
Not all microcurrent is the same or simple.
Microcurrent systems historically have been known as single channel galvanic systems. Galvanic is the delivery mode used to deliver the microcurrent energy. Today, microcurrent energy can be delivered in many different modes (Galvanic, Biphasic, Square, etc.) NeurotriS Micro Current Systems is the only company to patent the second generation micro current machines that utilizes the full spectrum of microcurrent energy (several complex patented specific frequency signatures using multi channels) which utilizes many different delivery modes to deliver the microcurrent energy at micro, nano and pico levels and not just Galvanic, to achieve true full sculpting / toning effects. The results and reviews speak for themselves.
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