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Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:44 am |
I am delighted that microcurrent has truly created lift and volume to my face even with recent weight loss.
My story....I am petite but back in 2007 I dieted to get to my ideal weight which was a ten pound weight loss and while my body looked great I had sudden sag to my face. That sag lead me to this forum....from here I started facial ex. LED lights and many more trial and error approaches. I finally landed with microcurrent in Feb. of 2012. I noticed lift and fullness coming back into my face after a series of treatments from a professional machine....so much so that I bought the machine. Within the last two months I have once again dieted off the dreaded 10 pounds that in 2007 created sag in my face....mind you I used the same diet and I am five years older...result?????I am at my ideal weight and my face is tighter than a tick!!! Seriously I am amazed and can attribute microcurrent to keeping my face in the best shape it has been in twenty years. I honestly thought in my 50's I would have to carry more weight to have my face looking full and lifted...folks I am thrilled to find that is no longer true....Microcurrent Rocks! |
_________________ female,"50 something" medium to thick normal skin, no wrinkles,Lightstim,Easy Eye Solutions,Green Smoothies,Ageless Secret Gold, Pico Toner,Beautiful Image |
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Tue Jan 08, 2013 11:33 am |
I've been inspired by others on this forum to log and post my results every 2 weeks for the next 12 weeks.
I'll be using the Slendertone Face (simply because i just bought it) AND, because I have the NuFace Classic gathering dust, I'm going to use that a little too as I'd like to lift the lower face and tackle marionette lines which are starting to form (or MossChops as my partner likes to call them...).
Depending on how I get on, I may get an integra / caci and add that into the mix as my eye sockets are a little sunken / bags / puffy - but not just yet.
At some point I'll add in facial exercises. And I may take pictures although I don't necessarily think photo's really show up the differences unless they're taken in lab conditions but we'll see...
For context, the skincare I'm using is Environ AVST5 so my actual skin itself is in pretty good condition. I have some slight inflammation on the cheeks but I think that's due to diet.
So... for the first 2 weeks I'll just stick to Slendertone Face. See you soon! |
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Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:15 pm |
catski wrote: |
PQ..I just bought an Integra! Excited! Thanks for the idea. A new toy! Anything specific I need to know? Do I use it with any serum or do I need a conductive gel?
Will report back on how it goes.. off to gen up on how to best use the thing, now.. |
I am going to do a review on my blog to show you how to use it, in the next few weeks.
Any conductive gel is fine.
PQ |
_________________ I am now blogging at Home Beauty Device Reviews. http://homebeautydevice.co.uk |
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Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:54 am |
ellenk wrote: |
O Toby-I just had a look at this device and I Want This!! I shall see .This little gadget looks fabulous and I can take it with me when travelling. I only wonder-where do you buy replacement spray? I could not find it anywhere ,or can you use plain water?
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You first start by wetting the gloves and a spray comes along with it that you spray 15 squirts per glove for an entire session. The spray lasts a long time and it can be purchased from either link I posted. I would advise someone interested in ordering this unit to order extra sprays simply because of added shipping with one bottle of spray later. This unit is first class, not cheap and works like a dream with the signature microcurrent wave. There is a treatment program for 20 min for lift and another program for collagen production that is 20min. You are suppose to use one program one day and another the next. I have a friend that got this unit and she hasn't used anything but this unit and declares major lift and tightness in her face and body. She is 53. |
_________________ female,"50 something" medium to thick normal skin, no wrinkles,Lightstim,Easy Eye Solutions,Green Smoothies,Ageless Secret Gold, Pico Toner,Beautiful Image |
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Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:28 am |
I have used the Caci-it gives you a nice lift,but targets only a few areas and for me it is rather a gadget which helps to maintain previous professional Microcurrent treatments. I think that the Pico toner is better as it tones the entire face. I have purchased a machine from Ebay and I am using it but I am not sure about the settings and it is time consuming. I have to see how to get the money together and purchase the Pico. I am in the UK , so additional costs (Tax) will apply. I told my husband (it's my birthday soon), but does he get it? |
_________________ 54 , Pico Toner,Reaura,Tanaka carpe diem |
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Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:52 am |
For those of you wanting some background on microcurrent this my help.
Microcurrent facial technologyMicrocurrent has been called the nonsurgical, or lunchtime face lift, and is a safe and effective, low-cost treatment that counteracts environmental damage, aging skin and poor dietary habits, without invasive surgery. Yet few skin care professionals offer the treatment on their menu. Why?
According to microcurrent expert, esthetician and trainer, Jane Mann, of Skinworks in Las Vegas, “Microcurrent represents a huge missed opportunity for licensed estheticians. Many dermatologists, plastic surgeons and medical spas are not interested in microcurrent; they prefer lasers, injectables or surgery. For the esthetician, microcurrent can be the ultimate anti-aging tool.”
What is microcurrent?Microcurrent technology is a low-level electrical current that mimics the body’s own biological current. Despite its low electrical vibration—one millionth of an amp—microcurrent treatments are very effective. It helps increase protein synthesis, promote waste removal, stimulate healing, regenerate tissue, balance free radical damage, boost cell growth, enhance natural collagen and elastin production, provide circulatory benefits, and work directly on the nerves and muscle fibers. Its mild frequency does not stimulate sensory nerves, is pain-free and causes no client discomfort.
Also known as facial toning, microcurrent is an esthetic treatment that physically firms and tones the skin through muscle re-education. This process, according to the online article “ATP and Cellular Ageing” by David Suzuki, is achieved by stimulating 32 of the 53 facial muscles at traditional acupuncture points with tiny amounts of electricity to re-energize their biological currents and re-establish muscle memory. The result can be a reduction of fine lines, creases and wrinkles; restored healthy glow of youthful skin; visible firming, contouring and lifting; and the tightening of sagging jowls, double chins and fatty cheeks.
Microcurrent and ATPAs people age, the body’s biological current and chemical energy slows down, cellular renewal takes longer and skin cells stop performing efficiently. This leads to multiple skin problems: loss of tone, elasticity and firmness; fine lines; wrinkles; sagging—all signs of aging. Microcurrent can help reverse this process by re-energizing the synthesis of adenosine triphosphate (ATP
According to the Suzuki article, ATP, known as the “current of life” or “molecular currency,” is the only energy molecule that the body will accept and utilize as energy. This includes all cellular activity, DNA replication, regeneration and healing, collagen and elastin synthesis, neurotransmission and muscle contraction.
Without ATP, the human body does not function effectively and will eventually deteriorate. Yet, the body does not store ATP; rather it is manufactured on an as-needed basis via ATP synthesis mostly in the mitochondria of the cell. Therefore, the impact of microcurrent to increase levels of ATP is significant. Emil Y. Chi, PhD, director of the University of Washington’s department of pathology, performed clinical studies using microcurrent equipment. He notes, “The fact that technology works in harmony with the body is evident. Examination of the skin tissue treated with microcurrent showed a 45% increase in the number of elastin fibres in the dermis, and the length if the fibres on average doubled. The collagen thickness in the connective tissues increased 10%, and the numbers of blood vessels increased by 35%. The application of microcurrent to skin and tissue produced a firmer and tighter feeling on the skin surface.”
How does microcurrent work?Knowing how microcurrent technology affects ATP is vital for the success of the treatment, and that means understanding the dynamics of microcurrent’s electrical current, waveform, frequency and polarities.
Electrical current. Microcurrent is measured in microamperes, or µA, which are extremely tiny electrical currents. Microcurrent intensity levels can range from 25–600 µA. A 1982 study called “The effects of electric currents on ATP generation, protein synthesis and membrane transport of rat skin” by Cheng et al., proves that at 500 microamps, ATP generation in the mitochondria increased about 500% and amino acid transport increased by 30–40%. The study also indicated that when currents were increased above 500 microamps, ATP generation was depleted, amino acid uptake was reduced by 20–73% and protein synthesis was inhibited by as much as 50%.
Variety of waveforms. The type of waveform used in microcurrent varies, depending on the area of treatment. Studies indicate that a modified square waveform is best for muscle-lifting, while a slope waveform is better for collagen-building. Other microcurrent waveforms include square and sawtooth.
Microcurrent frequency. “Each cell, tissue and organ has an ideal resonant frequency that coordinates its activities,” says James Oschman, PhD,of Nature’s Own Research Association in Dover, New Hampshire. Microcurrent frequency (Hz) levels can range from 0.1–1,000 Hz. Specific frequencies induce specific effects on cells and other tissues. In the skin, there is a specific frequency for the epidermis and dermis, collagen production and muscles. There is also a specific frequency for each condition, such as inflammation, scars and secretions. Knowing what microcurrent frequency to use is vital for the treatment to resonate and be effective.
Microcurrent polarities. Microcurrent is a biphasic current that alternates between positive and negative using a variety of different tools. These tools can include gloves, probes, rods, pins, wands or masks. Used properly, they enable you to lengthen contracted muscles, as well as shorten elongated muscles, using a series of contouring movements.
According to the aforementioned Chi study, microcurrent can also encourage iontophoresis, or deep penetration of water-based skin care products, increasing the absorption rate of their beneficial ingredients to as much as 70%. It is important to not use oil-based products with microcurrent because they inhibit current flow.
Microcurrent applicationsBecause microcurrent stimulates the production of ATP, it can be used to treat virtually any skin condition and can be added to any treatment protocol. Microcurrent brings relief to clients with acne by aiding in the elimination of the Propionibacterium acnes (P. acnes) bacteria, and in the reduction of acne scarring. For clients with fine lines, wrinkles, dark circles, baggy eyes and an overall loss of definition, microcurrent can be used as a stand-alone treatment or combined with LED, microdermabrasion or chemical peels to accelerate the reappearance of youthful, beautiful skin. Contraindications for microcurrent include, but are not limited to, heart problems, pacemakers, pregnancy and implanted metal rods.
Clients must be advised to drink additional water before the treatment to allow for proper conductivity of current, and since lymph drainage is activated with microcurrent, clients will feel nauseous if they do not drink a sufficient amount of water after the treatment. Although you can work on any area of the body, do not work on a client for longer than 90 minutes to prevent overloading their system with the stored toxins in their body that will be released. Microcurrent will continue to stimulate ATP levels for 70 hours after treatment. For this reason, it is suggested that you perform the treatment no more than once every three days. Additional treatments will not hurt the client, but are unnecessary. More current is not better and can actually decrease ATP levels because of the overstimulation of cells, so do not tamper with the machine to increase frequency above the manufacturer’s suggested levels.
ResultsAccording to the website of Jeremy E. Kaslow, MD, results can vary by individual and skin type, are gradual, and will not just happen overnight. Some clients notice a difference after the first treatment; others may notice it after three or four treatments. The effect is cumulative, becoming more pronounced after each treatment. The skin and facial muscles become noticeably tighter and more toned with each treatment. About 60–80% of the changes created in one treatment last for the next four to seven days. However, if not treated regularly, the muscles may return to their former configuration.
Although the number of treatments in a series will vary depending on the client’s desired results, the type of equipment used and the complexity of condition, a guideline would be twice per week for the first month, once per week for the second month, or until desired result is achieved, and then once every four to six weeks for maintenance. Although it may be tempting for clients to neglect their check-up visit, gravity, toxins, illness and natural aging will eventually deplete the ATP stockpile if not properly stimulated, so you should emphasize the importance of follow-through to maintain results.
In summation, microcurrent is a versatile device that should be in every skin care professional’s tool box. It offers unlimited possibilities, yet is currently underutilized in the skin care industry. Are you ready to embrace this technology and gain a competitive edge?
General References
“ATP and Cellular Ageing” by David Suzuki,www.bodyclinic.com.au/docs/ATP%20and%20Cellular%20Ageing.pdf
www.novusresearch.com/research/microcurrents.html |
_________________ female,"50 something" medium to thick normal skin, no wrinkles,Lightstim,Easy Eye Solutions,Green Smoothies,Ageless Secret Gold, Pico Toner,Beautiful Image |
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Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:21 am |
Toby wrote: |
This unit is first class, not cheap and works like a dream with the signature microcurrent wave. |
Hi Toby, Thank you for the interesting background information. Can you please tell me what you mean by signature microcurrent wave? Does the Neurotris have have the modified square waveform? Thanks for your help. |
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Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:55 pm |
packratmack wrote: |
I just discovered that the CACI Microlift will be available for shippping to the US in a week. Now I am not sure if the Microlift or the Neurotris Pico would be a better purchase. They cost about the same. |
Caci home use device has not received any wow reviews so far... |
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Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:32 am |
Also galls, If you want to wait for my results before buying the I'll give an honest review of the product. I just hope I won't be disappointing because right now I'm so excited. |
_________________ 38 years old , 10% glycolic night cream, argan oil, castor oil, masks. |
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Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:02 pm |
One quick word about microcurrent results.....
I had no wow results with microcurrent for at least six weeks and when I started noticing changes it was very minimal but still a change. I saw significant change after six months and now at a year I am still having results. So remember your age and amount of sag will be a factor. I see women in their 40's responding much faster than in their fifties. So be patient,be persistent, and enjoy the ride. I honestly feel I now have a handle on turning back the clock! |
_________________ female,"50 something" medium to thick normal skin, no wrinkles,Lightstim,Easy Eye Solutions,Green Smoothies,Ageless Secret Gold, Pico Toner,Beautiful Image |
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Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:45 am |
Mars wrote: |
I missed it if this has been answered, but how does MC affect fillers? Thank you. |
I wouldn't use MC over fillers, as the physical action of the probes can disturb the product, and the current can have an affect on the product, too, but you can work around the areas with your probes. The same applies to botox.
PQ |
_________________ I am now blogging at Home Beauty Device Reviews. http://homebeautydevice.co.uk |
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Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:04 am |
has wrote: |
Could you use a Amp Meter on the gloves to see if they deliver current correctly?
the neurotris people say that their gloves deliver better. they even showed a demo in this video http://youtu.be/oiKhHMVc4jU
This is what they're saying is the difference between their device and others made i China.
It would be really helpful for everyone if you could help us find out. |
I have test them already, the gloves work really well, they deliver between 100-750uA, I am wearing rubber gloves underneath the gloves to stop all the current being directed to my hands.
Hope this helps.
PQ |
_________________ I am now blogging at Home Beauty Device Reviews. http://homebeautydevice.co.uk |
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Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:59 pm |
Hello
I am Patricia, NeurotriS Director of Sales & Training.
I was asked to explain “what is Second Generation Microcurrent”
Second Generation Microcurrent Technology US Patent # 8,340,756 B2.
Not all microcurrent is the same or simple.
Microcurrent systems historically have been known as single channel galvanic systems. Galvanic is the delivery mode used to deliver the microcurrent energy. Today, microcurrent energy can be delivered in many different modes (Galvanic, Biphasic, Square, etc.) NeurotriS Micro Current Systems is the only company to patent the second generation micro current machines that utilizes the full spectrum of microcurrent energy (several complex patented specific frequency signatures using multi channels) which utilizes many different delivery modes to deliver the microcurrent energy at micro, nano and pico levels and not just Galvanic, to achieve true full sculpting / toning effects. The results and reviews speak for themselves.
Patricia RN |
_________________ Patricia RN (Director of Sales and Training) Neurotris Microcurrent Systems |
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Sat Mar 16, 2013 2:13 am |
daler wrote: |
photoqueen wrote: |
I have no links with this company, I do have a degree in electronic engineering, and believe their feedback, amplification/constant current design and constant waveform circuit design, could be unique and I am reading the patent information which is available on the the web using Google.
Please can we get back onto a positive note.
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I dont think she was referring to you PQ... you are not even using this machine yet or are you?
I dont know if Hermosa has a degree in electronic engineering but if she has then it would be nice if both of you could have an open discussion here on this thread re PICO's claims, it would be v helpful..
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I know it wasn't referring to me, if it had been, then the tone of my post would have slightly different.
I don't have a machine, but I was going to BUY one to review it for you/my blog.
I will share my technical findings, with all of you, as always.
PQ |
_________________ I am now blogging at Home Beauty Device Reviews. http://homebeautydevice.co.uk |
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Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:44 pm |
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Hermosa wrote: |
Hi, PQ! I didn't mean to offend anyone, but I'm normally pretty direct, and I'd say the same thing in a ftf. However, understanding the protocols and local culture, it would have been better if I'd reiterated that it's caveat emptor in this game. And it's pretty safe to say that if someone comes up with a breakthrough technology, we will all hear about it.
I haven't done a patent search -- the website was offputting enough. And maybe the founder knows more about electronics than his wife does. But who wrote that ghastly copy??? |
Hi Hermosa,
I was shocked at your approach, and remain surprised that you do not think moderating your direct approach on a social networking site, is something you need to consider, to maintain harmony on the site.
As I am an expert in electronics, hopefully you would see a four-year degree in micro-electronics and 31 years experience working in a leading UK University, a good enough background in electronics to make a value judgement on the Pico device and their statements, design, underpinning theory, as I believe their technology could be ground-breaking. I will review the materials, and if the forum environment, is less direct, will report back with my expert findings.
Best wishes,
PQ |
Yes I agree and thank you PQ -- we all value your opinion on this forum so much and would hate to see you stop reviewing devices for us!! This new device sounds very promising... Oh I've seen this drama before. And I agree it is very sad that when company representatives are asked as a favor to come onto this forum to answer specific or technical questions, other members get accused of being compensated. Sheesh! Ya can't win. Thanks again -- FWIW, I find your reviews very helpful due to your knowledge base and I appreciate all members who share their reviews of new products/devices!! Best, Aprile |
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Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:25 pm |
has wrote: |
photoqueen wrote: |
has wrote: |
Could you use a Amp Meter on the gloves to see if they deliver current correctly?
the neurotris people say that their gloves deliver better. they even showed a demo in this video http://youtu.be/oiKhHMVc4jU
This is what they're saying is the difference between their device and others made i China.
It would be really helpful for everyone if you could help us find out. |
I have test them already, the gloves work really well, they deliver between 100-750uA, I am wearing rubber gloves underneath the gloves to stop all the current being directed to my hands.
Hope this helps.
PQ |
Any changes after first week?? |
Only the normal lift, I would expect from a microcurrent device, it doesn't compare with my CACI salon machine, but the Venus cost me £90.00, the CACI cost me £4000.00. So I am not expecting much more from this little device. I don't believe it warrants more of a review.
PQ |
_________________ I am now blogging at Home Beauty Device Reviews. http://homebeautydevice.co.uk |
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Sun Mar 17, 2013 3:44 am |
Hermosa. Have you considered that throwing out such negative suggestions here, based on no actual information, could deter members from sharing their finds, in order to keep out of a harsh cynical limelight? At EDS we trust and respect one another and share what we find and support one another. The atmosphere is a positive one of mutual support, interest and encouragement. We are canny enough to notice a shill when we see one. Trust me, we are canny. I appreciate you may have felt you were pointing something out to a bunch of blind folk, and so you did it harshly so we could really hear you. But we aren't a bunch of blind folk. It would have been more honest of you to have voiced your concerns about commercial manipulation as precisely that: your concerns...that's all you actually voiced. But you presented them in a disparaging combative way. Really no need to do this. You are amongst people that are worth listening to, people that can discuss rationally.
This environment is worth taking care of, it's a valuable spot with members that look out for one another. Please don't undermine trust, based on fear of your own.
And now, back to the adventure of Discovering More about Microcurrent! |
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Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:36 pm |
Hi Monique,
yes, I have used the unit for about 10 times.
It is very easy to use. I am not sure about results yet, but as Toby stated somewhere it may take a few weeks.
The DVD is NOT a training video ( i think you were asking about relaxing and toning movements).Patricia shows some protocols you can follow. It is basically gliding and holding movements. The difference to other Microcurrent devices is that you can simply put one hand on the right part of your face and the other on the left and glide upwards and hold.Very easy.
The only thing i don't like is that you cannot see when the battery is empty and that I will have to reorder the spray regularly.
Hope this helps a bit |
_________________ 54 , Pico Toner,Reaura,Tanaka carpe diem |
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Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:58 pm |
daler wrote: |
unless there are some good reviews of other product, I may v well end up buying the original nuface soon.. it's not that expensive and I could return it if didn't work for me...
any nuface users on this thread who really like it? pls share.. thank you! |
daler
I have the Nuface Trinity and I really like it. At first I didn't think it was doing anything but after using the advanced techniques and holding for 6 beeps (30 seconds) I saw quite a difference! I know Christine Byer said on older skin you need longer hold times. That made a huge difference for me. I also use the Face Master which works wonders on the eye area. Until I can afford the Beautiful Image the two of these machines are doing a great job for me. My husband even commented on how good my face looked which is huge because he usually isn't one to notice things like that. Let me know if you have any questions and I will be happy to answer.
Also thanks to all who have recommended micro-current. It has done better than any cream or serum that I have ever used! |
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Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:46 pm |
I have been crazy with remolding going on in my house and haven't had a chance to post much in a week. I had to stop for a moment when I read wolfmama"s post. She is giving great information and encouragement. I lost my camera with this remolding venture and happened to find it last night. I took some photos this morning and compared them to photos I had before starting microcurrent. All I can say folks is, this lady will be married to microcurrent for life. I would strongly advise getting a unit at the price point you can afford. I started with the nuface and still use it for a quick tune up in the morning and to get better serum penetration. You don't have to buy a new one,I have bought several for family members for less than 150.00 and all were in great working order. The next step up in the price bracket would be the Pico toner., and I do love it for face, body, and hands. It may prove to be my main tool, even over the professional machine I own. I am unsure about EBay units from China because you don't know what you are getting and I like to be able to call a company and get specific questions answered and get help with tweaking my routine. |
_________________ female,"50 something" medium to thick normal skin, no wrinkles,Lightstim,Easy Eye Solutions,Green Smoothies,Ageless Secret Gold, Pico Toner,Beautiful Image |
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Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:35 am |
Mars wrote: |
Hi, Ellenk, I heard somewhere you could use tap water with the gloves. Maybe I saw that on Youtube. |
Mars, for other machines tap water is fine, but with the Pico you are supposed to use the spacial Electrolyte Spray for optimum results. |
_________________ 54 , Pico Toner,Reaura,Tanaka carpe diem |
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Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:43 am |
I have purchased a Pico Toner and look forward to using it.
PQ |
_________________ I am now blogging at Home Beauty Device Reviews. http://homebeautydevice.co.uk |
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