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Tue Feb 15, 2005 11:10 am  |
Hello ladies!
I am out of my sunscreen and looking out for a new one.
I saw creams with SPF 55 and they are just sunscreens.
And then there's other creams that seem to be packed with benefits (Whitening ones, with Vitamins, Antidoxants etc. ) and one of those pluses is that it has SPF, usually 15 or 20.
So my question is:
Is it better to get a regular sunscreen with SPF 55 for full spectrum protection( and then a moisturizer with benefits)?
Or is it better to get a nice hydrating cream with a lower SPF?
I am out of most of what I used so far and I am trying to find better products.
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Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:36 pm |
How long are you out in the sun for normally each day? What is your skin colour? Do you burn easily? I think SPF 55 is getting close to a sun block (?)  |
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Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:43 pm |
Hi Rzecka,
I am usually not that long in the sun, but I do burn easily. I have very fair skin.
Aga |
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Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:46 pm |
| Try and find one mid range Aga, you dont want one to rich that might conflict with your daily skin care. Did you not the like you were almost out of. |
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Tue Feb 15, 2005 1:19 pm |
Cindi,I like it but it's only SPF 15, it's Nivea All Around Protection, I actually use it all day for moisture.
I am almost out and wated to replace with a moisturizer that would make my skin look better, a little firmer, toned and glowing 
AM I asking for too much? lol
And I wanted a little more sunscreen in it too 
I also have neutrogena spf 30 tinted, but I dont like it, its kind of like a paste too thick
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Tue Feb 15, 2005 1:25 pm |
Aga, I think we are all guilty of asking for too much  I rely on my BE foundation for SPF so I can't really help you on recommending a moisturiser. But I'm sure some one out there has got just the thing |
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Tue Feb 15, 2005 1:49 pm |
Hey Aga! I'm more on the pastey side and prefer to have as high of an spf as a product can muster. I have been looking for products as an alternative to the Cetaphil daily facial moisturizer which I love, but is only an spf 15, too.
Right now I've been using the Obagi moisturizer with spf 35 (comes in a tube.) I have a nice complexion that doesn't need the harsher Obagi treatment, but my aesthetician told me that the Obagi sun-protection facial moisturizer is gentle enough for anyone to use on their skin. It's non-greasy, absorbs fairly quickly, and works well under JI minerals. I had a wake-up call about a month ago when I was vacationing in Costa Rica and got a super-tiny little patch of darker sun-damage on my cheek after wearing the Cetaphil moisturizer and then Neutrogena 45 when I knew I'd be out in the sun a lot. There's a product called Nicomide that you can put on spots that supposedly helps, and I'm now trying that. *crosses fingers*
I'm also trying Anna-Lisa's spf 30+ facial moisturizer as soon as my samples come in the mail from their company.
Right now, I'd really recommend the Obagi. I really really love it! But I've heard there's lots of great stuff out there, from DDF to Shiseido, so good luck on your search!
*edit* I can't spell sometimes... ! |
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Tue Feb 15, 2005 2:51 pm |
Funny you mentioned Shiseido, I was just looking it up I'll also look into Obagi
Well, it looks like I might have to end up putting moisturizer AND sunscreen.
Wish there was just one product that would take care of everything *sigh*
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Tue Feb 15, 2005 2:54 pm |
| I agree with that one Aga |
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Mabsy
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Wed Feb 16, 2005 3:08 am |
I usually go for something that is between 15 and 30. The difference as you go up from 30 towards 100 (or whatever the highest is) is not that significant particularly if you don't get a lot of sun anyway. I think the most important thing is that the sunblock is broad spectrum.
I tend to switch between "proper" sunblocks like Skinceuticals Ultimate UV Defense and 2-in-1 formulas like Dermalogica Sheer Tint moisture with SPF. I have heard dermatologists say that you should really use a separate sunblock because if you are using say a foundation with SPF then you will never actually use enough to give you the proper protection. |
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Wed Feb 16, 2005 3:26 am |
| Mabsy wrote: |
| I have heard dermatologists say that you should really use a separate sunblock because if you are using say a foundation with SPF then you will never actually use enough to give you the proper protection. |
I really hate to be contentious, but I would say that this might be a little OT. Surely whether you need a separate sunblock depends on a lot of factors esp where you live in the world and how much time you spend outdoors. Please don't throw anything at me. I know that the risk of cancer completely outweighs everything else, I just think that it needs to be put in perspective depending on your individual situation.
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Mabsy
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Wed Feb 16, 2005 3:51 am |
| rzecka wrote: |
| I really hate to be contentious, but I would say that this might be a little OT. Surely whether you need a separate sunblock depends on a lot of factors esp where you live in the world and how much time you spend outdoors. Please don't throw anything at me. I know that the risk of cancer completely outweighs everything else, I just think that it needs to be put in perspective depending on your individual situation. |
You mean OTT? I agree, which is why I tend to switch between the two depending on what I'm doing on the day. |
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Wed Feb 16, 2005 3:56 am |
Ooops, yes I do Mabsy.
I'm the type of person that takes everything literally so I'm on a mission now to be more discerning  |
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Wed Feb 16, 2005 9:35 am |
Mabsy,thats interesting what you said.
I am looking into all these sunblocks I am getting confused again lol
Are the ones you mentioned not clogging pores?
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Wed Feb 16, 2005 6:52 pm |
| Unless you are persistently in a very sunny climate, the extra chemicals involved in taking a product from a 30 to a 50 aren't worth it! I wear a SPF 15 every day - Dermalogica Sheer Tint - and then a SPF 30 if I am on holiday. |
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Thu Feb 17, 2005 1:24 am |
| Aga wrote: |
Are the ones you mentioned not clogging pores?
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Aga - my favorite sunblock is the Skinceuticals one. I have not had any problems with that one in terms of breakouts or anything of the sort. There are quite a few 2-in-1 products that I like. The Murad Oil Free Sunblock is tinted and very light and just fantastic. I also find that it is a bit moisturising although it wouldn't be for your skin type. The Dermalogica Sheer Tint is great as well, as is the Ultra-Sensitive Face Block. Kosmea Moisturising Lotion SPF30+ is fantastic but I don't think you can get it outside of Aus (or at least it's really hard). |
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Thu Feb 17, 2005 9:25 am |
Thanks Mabsy,
Now just need to make a decision
Aga |
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Sat Feb 26, 2005 7:53 pm |
| Aga - I just read this and am new to this forum. I've tried many sunscreens over the years since I stopped sunbathing at age 30 (best thing I ever did for my skin). I'll be 53 next week and everyone is VERY surprised if/when they find out my age. I've been using Eucerin Extra Protective Moisture Lotion SPF 30 for about 3 years (while still trying others). It contains zinc and titanium, which are physical blocks so you don't have to wait 15 minutes before sun exposure - you're ready to go. While it makes the skin look a little whiter because of the zinc, it doesn't burn or look greasy like some others. Makeup blends nicely over it. If you can't get it in a local store, online pharmacies like drugstore.com sell it for $6-$7 for 4 oz. I hope you get this message! |
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Sat Feb 26, 2005 10:32 pm |
Hello Aga,
I don't know if you know this but when there is a lotion on the shelf that says it has an SPF of 30 you are really not getting that SPF factor when you put it on your skin. See, chemists have still not effectively been able to keep SPF stable in a lotion. Therefore, when companies put a 30 in your lotion...it actually turns out to be around a ten.
SPF and lotions are nice....but using an SPF is even better defense. That's my two cents...hope it helps! |
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Sun Feb 27, 2005 12:54 am |
Aga
I use Kiehls ultra face moisturizer with sunscreen during the day. It is SPF 15. I had gotten away from the Kiehls a while back and used other moisturizers that were really nice but also frightfully expensive.  But sometimes separate sunscreen over moisturizer can be a pain. So I went back to the Kiehls since I knew that my skin liked it. When I do wear regular moisturizer I use Shiseido Extra Smooth Sun Protection lotion for face and body SPF33. Sometimes I'll put some on my areas of concern on my face over the Kiehls.
The Shiseido 33 is good especially as a facial sunscreen. The consistency is thin so it goes on well and without whiteness. I also like it because it is not greasy or oily as some other sunscreens are. |
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Sun Feb 27, 2005 9:28 am |
M April,
Welcome to the forum! ( isnt it great ? )
The sunscreen youre using seems pretty cool!
I like the SPF 30, no wait and the price is great too!
Happy Birthday!
Aga |
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Sun Feb 27, 2005 9:37 am |
Misskoslow,
So creams offer better protection than lotions?
I didnt know that! Thats some importaint info!
Thanks for sharing! Defiantely will keep this in mind when shopping for an SPF!
Marella,
Thakns for your response!
I love Kiehls hair products! I havent tried their moisturizers yet.
Hehe, I like having both moisturizer and an SPF in one, just like you say, it's too much hassle putting one over the other
And Shiseido sounds good too! Especially the SPF 33!
Now, decisions decisions!
Aga |
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Fri Apr 08, 2005 4:50 pm |
| rzecka wrote: |
| Mabsy wrote: |
| I have heard dermatologists say that you should really use a separate sunblock because if you are using say a foundation with SPF then you will never actually use enough to give you the proper protection. |
I really hate to be contentious, but I would say that this might be a little OT. Surely whether you need a separate sunblock depends on a lot of factors esp where you live in the world and how much time you spend outdoors. Please don't throw anything at me. I know that the risk of cancer completely outweighs everything else, I just think that it needs to be put in perspective depending on your individual situation.
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Actually, a sunblock is essential no matter where you are because cloud cover does not protect against UV radiation, especially photoaging UVA rays which are pretty persistent and constant throughout the year anywhere in the world.
What Mabsy said is true - you should slather on enough if you want the SPF stated on the bottle, be it SPF 15 or 60. |
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