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Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:14 pm  |
Sorry, how old is he?
He seems very young to me. Can't grasp the point of commenting on his appearance as he seems so young. Maybe in his late twenties... And also he is wearing the same glasses and clothes on both pics. |
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Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:22 pm |
| ATester wrote: |
Sorry, how old is he?
He seems very young to me. Can't grasp the point of commenting on his appearance as he seems so young. Maybe in his late twenties... |
Sorry, to clarify, I mean HGH decreases after the forties as far as I've read, I don't see the point of referring to younger persons... I would personally prefer to know about experience with people over forty to be able to get a "true" version... Not only opinions of younger people, who honestly don't really know what one is talking about until they reach a certain age... NO offence to the under forties! |
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havana8
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Sun Jan 06, 2013 9:33 pm |
I only notice the different hairstyle. Longer hair makes any guy look younger, in my opinion. I've never been a fan of the shaved head.
I think what is more important is how someone feels. If he or anyone feels better doing his routine, then it works for them. Everyone is different so the hard part is finding something that works for you. |
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Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:13 pm |
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Still not understanding either, I think he looks healthy and young in both images.
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He looks significantly older imo. Eyes are strangely beady, skin has a greyish pallor and also lacks a glow.... What's up with the glasses? 
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Unless it is identical lighting and camera techniques, you can't really compare photos as flash can totally washout wrinkles, etc. |
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Mon Jan 07, 2013 2:00 pm |
| He looks older! 31 pushing late 30s or early 40s at least. |
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Sun Jan 13, 2013 8:48 am |
| Looks like natural aging to me and within the realm that can be expected. Since these photos are separated by a few years, I don't see that he has aged much faster or slower than others. Just my 2 cents. |
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Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:21 pm |
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| Looks like natural aging to me and within the realm that can be expected. Since these photos are separated by a few years, I don't see that he has aged much faster or slower than others. Just my 2 cents. |
Actually, he's 35, not 31. His skin has a strange greyish cast; if this is considered "normal" aging, fine. Other people his age don't have greyish skin:
Orlando Bloom
Liv Tyler
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Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:31 pm |
Just to follow the original post of this thread, is there anyone here who has taken a secretagogue of HGH?
And how is it working out? |
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1rbgirl
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Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:38 pm |
| hifairydogmother, you mentioned your doctor wanted you to try SECRETROPIN, where did he tell u to get it? |
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Sun Jun 16, 2013 4:18 pm |
Finally someplace to post about this where someone will *get* it! (I dont post on the body building forums.)
I have been taking Growth Factor9 for 3 weeks and really notice a change in the distribution of fat on my body. Im not overweight but the thickening of the waist area is always something I keep an eye on and struggle with. Exercises really dont work to trim the waist, contrary to notions about that. Weight loss helps (I lost 30 pounds this winter when I was battling kidney stones) but unless I am rail-thin, I still have the "pooch" it seems.
When I first started taking GF9 I could not believe how flat my abdo became - almost in a week. And as long as I watch out for the gluten, sugar/sugar substitutes, soy, dairy, corn, peanuts and avoid them I stay slender.
It is only to be taken sporadically, else the body loses the sensitivity to it. I take it M-F. While away on vaca I was off it a week and really noticed how sluggish and dull and dumpy I felt. And the pooch returned - also I fell off the no-gluten/no sugar wagon
It is pricy but deals can be found online if you shop around. If you read the following website for it it will explain the rationale for it and what it does, if you arent familiar with secretagogues:
Ingredients
SeroVital™ 2.9 g A Proprietary Blend Containing:
L-Lysine HCl, L-Arginine HCl, Oxo-Proline, N-Acetyl L-Cysteine, L-Glutamine, Schizonepeta (aerial parts) powder
http://www.novexbiotech.com/growth-factor-9.html?gclid=CJr0xNjZ6bcCFc9xQgod5wwARQ
Its not a true "growth hormone" and its not derived from human tissue; its just amino acids and some herb called schizonepeta. Not sure the ratios or what bearing the herb has on the amino acids but it works for me. Im going to experiment with other secretagogues when I run out to see if other amino acid products might work as well and be less exxy. |
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Wed Jun 19, 2013 9:09 am |
Hi 1rbgirl,
The doc I see is a board certified internist who specializes in hormonal balance. He recommended Secretropin. For some reason I can't post links yet, but if you Google Secretropin, there are lots of videos and web sites about it. The famous Hall Center in LA sells it. It is expensive, though. The doc told me that no other hormone works like HGH for sagging skin, wrinkles, etc. |
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Wed Jun 19, 2013 2:27 pm |
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Hi 1rbgirl,
The doc I see is a board certified internist who specializes in hormonal balance. He recommended Secretropin. For some reason I can't post links yet, but if you Google Secretropin, there are lots of videos and web sites about it. The famous Hall Center in LA sells it. It is expensive, though. The doc told me that no other hormone works like HGH for sagging skin, wrinkles, etc. |
Fairydogmother great name!! 
Does the package of Secretropin list the ingreds?
By nature, a secretagogue only works to stimulate production of hGH; most of these products should be nearly the same, except for price and vehicle/delivery system. |
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Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:27 pm |
My pulse rate regular hovers at 64-68 - used to be much lower... running, gymnastics, weight lifting - always active. Should I sit still and let it climb so I can be more healthy according to Peat?
I - like others would like an explanation to this.
You write about him often and this is a question I'm sure he has answered frequently.
Thanks. Sis
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| Ray Peat says a pulse under 75 correlates with being less healthy D |
A lot of professional athlete has a pulse under 75 are you saying they are unhealthy? |
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Thu Jun 20, 2013 1:53 am |
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My pulse rate regular hovers at 64-68 - used to be much lower... running, gymnastics, weight lifting - always active. Should I sit still and let it climb so I can be more healthy according to Peat?
I - like others would like an explanation to this.
You write about him often and this is a question I'm sure he has answered frequently.
Thanks. Sis
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| gretchen wrote: |
| Ray Peat says a pulse under 75 correlates with being less healthy D |
A lot of professional athlete has a pulse under 75 are you saying they are unhealthy? |
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It makes no sense that more beats per minute is healthier. Elite athletes have resting heart rates from 40-60 beats per minute and sometimes even lower. It's better if my heart works harder? Ray Peat sure says some questionable things. |
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Thu Jun 20, 2013 7:20 am |
Reposting @ Fairydogmother:
Im intrigued about this Secretropin. I see an Rx-only and an OTC oral spray. Which do you take and is it available anywhere cheaper than $150/bottle?
I love my Growth Factor9 but always looking for the next best thing!
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Fri Jun 21, 2013 9:34 am |
Hi Fawnie! Thanks. I do a lot of animal rescue, that's why I chose this user name. 
I don't know what the ingredients are in Secretropin cause I never bought or tried it. It's way too expensive! I had asked my internist what I could do to reduce the saggy skin, even though I exercise a lot. I have to wear 3/4 sleeves all the time cause my upper arms are saggy, crepey, and wrinkly! I'm slim and at a good weight but have saggy skin in certain areas that I cannot tone up. I'm on BHRT and he told me the only thing that will help is human growth hormone. He does the injections, too, but that is ridiculously unaffordable. LOL
So I posted my question here to see if anyone has a less expensive alternative to Secretropin. I have never tried Secretropin. It looks like The Hall Center sells it.
On another web site I noticed some people were taking a product called Ageless Ultramax Gold which has various amino acids in it (?) |
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Fri Jun 21, 2013 9:40 am |
| I had posted another question a few days ago about Thermage as well. I am desperate to tighten my problem areas! Short of cosmetic surgery--which is way too expensive--I'm not sure what to do? HGH? Thermage? Laser? Heavier weight lifting? |
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Fri Jun 21, 2013 3:05 pm |
Thx FDM (I giggle at your name every time!)
I dont have any answers about the extra arm skin tho, aside from lipo I guess. |
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Sat Jun 22, 2013 7:27 pm |
I just received one bottle of Natural Hormone Boosters from Oleda Baker's website. I will take three tablets before bed for three weeks, then take a week off. If I notice a positive change, I will reorder or perhaps look for them cheaper online.
Ingredients are Glycine, L-glutamine, L-arginine,peptide, pepsin, L-ornithine. |
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Sun Jun 23, 2013 7:24 am |
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I just received one bottle of Natural Hormone Boosters from Oleda Baker's website. I will take three tablets before bed for three weeks, then take a week off. If I notice a positive change, I will reorder or perhaps look for them cheaper online.
Ingredients are Glycine, L-glutamine, L-arginine,peptide, pepsin, L-ornithine. |
That looks interesting SS! Ingreds are similar to my GrowthFactor9:
SeroVital™ 2.9 g A Proprietary Blend Containing:
L-Lysine HCl, L-Arginine HCl, Oxo-Proline, N-Acetyl L-Cysteine, L-Glutamine, Schizonepeta (aerial parts) powder
L-Ornithine attenuates fatigue, so it should give you some pep:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19083482
Let us know how you like it! |
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Sun Jun 23, 2013 2:22 pm |
| I don't know if it was due to the Hormone booster tabs but it took me two hours to fall asleep last night! Well, I will try to keep doing this until the bottle is gone then during that one week off period, see if I sleep better. My sleeping patterns are strange anyway. I think I'll take a nap now! |
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Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:06 pm |
| It looks like I won't be able to take this Hormone Booster because one of the ingredients is Pepsin, which causes acid reflux in me. I'll have to find something similar online without that one ingredient. |
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