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Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:33 pm  |
The OP stated that she has tried OCM.
Galvanic disincrustation is AMAZING! I have suffered for years with the deep clogging and congestion that seems cystic (but is not) because it never comes to a head. When I agitate them enough a big oil plug will come out. I have tried harsh glycolic and salicylic products, peels, B.peroxide, antibiotic topicals, everything!
Disincrustation should be performed prior to extractions then you have to reverse the polarity of the machine (eg - active elctrode changed to +) to restore the acid mantle of your skin. Very important step!
Once you have tried disincrustation your oil plugs liquify and literally just ooze out of the skin it was like nothing I had experienced before. Within 2 days all my congestion had just dissolved.
Highly recommended! |
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Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:42 pm |
| teago wrote: |
The OP stated that she has tried OCM.
Galvanic disincrustation is AMAZING! I have suffered for years with the deep clogging and congestion that seems cystic (but is not) because it never comes to a head. When I agitate them enough a big oil plug will come out. I have tried harsh glycolic and salicylic products, peels, B.peroxide, antibiotic topicals, everything!
Disincrustation should be performed prior to extractions then you have to reverse the polarity of the machine (eg - active elctrode changed to +) to restore the acid mantle of your skin. Very important step!
Once you have tried disincrustation your oil plugs liquify and literally just ooze out of the skin it was like nothing I had experienced before. Within 2 days all my congestion had just dissolved.
Highly recommended! |
Hi teago, can I ask the name/brand of the machine that you use? Thanks |
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Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:26 pm |
| jazzi wrote: |
That's a strange notion, to need to change something in your routine that often. I think derms are pretty adamant that people are consistent with the products they use and don't switch around, and I trust that opinion a lot more. For one because nothing topical gives serious results in 2 weeks. And in those couple weeks the tiny benefits that do happen are lost. Salicylic acid cleansers take about 6 weeks alone to make a difference on pores. No offense, but that is one strange magazine. Are you sure that wasn't one of those commercial magazine things where they want people to purchase boatload of products and never finish anything.  I know those hair stylist magazines try to swindle people just like that, by telling people they need to switch shampoos often, which isn't true either. According to trichologists (as in hair doctors) you might want to have a more nourishing anti-static shampoo for winter and then one regulating one for summer and one of those chelating/cleansing shampoos if there is a lot of build-up, but that's pretty much it. Oh, I'm totally going off-topic. Must stop before swerving into consumerism's environmental effects. |
http://www.skininc.com/treatments/facial/Become-an-Acne-Specialist-189242511.html?page=3
ok, good. I didn't imagine reading this:
Effective Acne Specialists Can ...
1. Educate clients on lifestyle issues, drugs/medications and comedogenic ingredients that can exacerbate acne. Acne specialists can also provide clients with personalized home care and treatment plans, and follow up to make sure clients understand what is expected of them.
2. Develop home care regimens for clients according to the type and severity of their acne. Knowing what formulation is best for each type of acne is critical.
3. Use benzoyl peroxide correctly, starting slowly so the skin won’t become irritated, then getting more aggressive as the skin adapts.
4. Make alterations to the home care protocol as clients’ skin adapts to product use. The biggest mistake that skin care professionals make in treating acne is to allow the skin to adapt to product use. Clients’ home care routines need to be adjusted at frequent intervals, such as every two weeks, to make sure the skin does not get too used to the routine. This usually means either increasing the frequency of use of a certain product or changing the products used. For example, it could mean that a client will be using an exfoliating serum twice a day instead of once a day.
5. Perform acne treatments that exfoliate the skin enough to control acne, but not so much that the client cannot use home care products the next day.
6. Perform acne extractions thoroughly and skillfully. |
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Sat Mar 16, 2013 4:29 am |
| OCM depends on a type of oil is used. |
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Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:19 am |
| CookieD wrote: |
| teago wrote: |
The OP stated that she has tried OCM.
Galvanic disincrustation is AMAZING! I have suffered for years with the deep clogging and congestion that seems cystic (but is not) because it never comes to a head. When I agitate them enough a big oil plug will come out. I have tried harsh glycolic and salicylic products, peels, B.peroxide, antibiotic topicals, everything!
Disincrustation should be performed prior to extractions then you have to reverse the polarity of the machine (eg - active elctrode changed to +) to restore the acid mantle of your skin. Very important step!
Once you have tried disincrustation your oil plugs liquify and literally just ooze out of the skin it was like nothing I had experienced before. Within 2 days all my congestion had just dissolved.
Highly recommended! |
Hi teago, can I ask the name/brand of the machine that you use? Thanks |
Sorry CookieD I dont have my own device! I know that you can buy them on eBay but unsure of the quality. |
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Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:57 am |
| LauraLizzie wrote: |
| 4. Make alterations to the home care protocol as clients’ skin adapts to product use. The biggest mistake that skin care professionals make in treating acne is to allow the skin to adapt to product use. Clients’ home care routines need to be adjusted at frequent intervals, such as every two weeks, to make sure the skin does not get too used to the routine. This usually means either increasing the frequency of use of a certain product or changing the products used. For example, it could mean that a client will be using an exfoliating serum twice a day instead of once a day. |
It seems to imply that a switch between, for example, 2.5% benzoyl peroxide and 5.0% strength or using BP once a day instead of twice. Which is totally logical thing to do. Nowhere do I see that it's recommended to change up say between benzoyl peroxide and niacinamide product or tea tree oil every couple weeks or other rotations of that kind. It won't work that way, sorry. It's simply about fine tuning the stuff you use. |
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kelleighchris
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Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:28 pm |
Hi, I'm new to the board. I hate to be so negative on my first post, but the oil cleansing method ruined my skin. Worst thing I've ever done to my skin. I still have scars from the cystic acne that formed and I have never had cystic acne in my life. I had to go to a dermatologist to get my skin back to normal and it never fully recovered.
My skin is very similar to yours. I'm 33, very fine lines under the eye, oily skin, but also kind of dull.
Please proceed with extreme caution when trying the oil cleansing method. Unfortunately, it's one of those things that can go either way. |
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Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:18 am |
My (adult) daughter has just recovered from seriously congested skin/moderate acne - mainly on the forehead, but also on cheeks and chin.
This is what's worked for her:
Antibiotics (she's still on them)
Acupuncture (for hormonal imbalance and blood type)
A nutrition overhall (cutting out gluten, reducing sugar, and eating more iron)
Supplements and Probiotics
Meditation (to reduce stress and ensure a good night's sleep)
Being Outdoors (she believes that fresh air has been one of the most important keys)
Exercise (45 minutes a day)
So, it's been a combination of conventional and holistic approach and NO products (except occasionally Sudocrem).
Her skin has almost completely healed in just two months. It's been amazing! |
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Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:42 pm |
Thank you for all the advice, I've been though a lot with my skin over the past while and what seems to be helping (fingers crossed) is using very gentle products along side my retinoid.
I think as graceless lady suggests a more holistic approch is important here such as diet and supplements currently due to illness I don't get much exercise but I do want to incorporate this as well.
Thank you again for all the suggestions! |
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Mon May 13, 2013 5:58 pm |
@ Teago (and everyone else)
Definitely agree with you about galvanic deincrustation. I performed this treatment for years as a beauty therapist on clients and saw great results.
Especially those with acne and deep blockages in the skin, it really is the best way to clear these as the galvanic current actually reaches this far and breaks down the build up.
Topical treatments like salicylic and benzol peroxide etc only work on the surface of the skin, so can be successful for blackheads and 'normal' pimples, pigmentation etc (IF used consistently!)
But problems in the deep layers of the skin are almost impossible to treat with topical products, as they only work on the top layer of skin. And, if used too much will break this down and cause more problems such as sensitivity (from a compromised acid mantle).
You're right, in a galvanic treatment the polarity HAS to be reversed to rebuild the acid mantle of the skin at the end of treatment. It is basically 'de-incrusting' the skin, which is breaking it down, loosening it up and de'crustifying (made up word:) in particular the top layer of 'crusty' cells - the stratum corneum.
So it is really important that it's then reversed and built up again (the Iontophoresis part of the treatment). It kinda acts like a blank slate, clear the skin and rebuild it on a healthier foundation.
Of course, the professional machines in spas are fairly cumbersome and the ones I used were always quite old fashioned looking. They were really expensive too as far as I was aware, part of the reason why these treatments are so costly in a spa.
At home devices still deliver strong enough currents to make them worthwhile. I'm no longer working in spas so missing out on the free treatments  But have actually found the Fyola Lite a good at home alternative, I really like the organic gel that is used with it. The gel used with this type of treatment is so important and has to be high quality.
Using this fairly often - usually just once or twice a week, I base this on how often we would recommend professional treatments - along with a vitamin A cream as my daily moisturizer, sun screen and a (mostly) healthy diet, my skin is still just as good as when I was the height of using my working-in-a-spa benefits! |
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