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Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:53 pm |
Nonie aka AD wrote: |
bethany wrote: |
She actually had 5 photos from each day for people to review, so we don't know if she was smiling in them all or not.
I bought this book many years ago when it first came out. Basically the 3 day plan is just to kick start you on a healthier way of eating overall, which should ultimately improve your health and make you appear to be more vibrant. |
bethanyHow do you know she has 5 photos? Is there a link you could kindly provide? |
It was in the article Lacy posted:
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I was careful not to prejudice the jury. I told my friends that I had done a three-day diet designed to erase wrinkles and wanted them to judge the results. I handed each friend a pack of 10 pictures, five of me in blue, five in green. I varied the one on top, and instructed them to separate the photos by bathrobe color and pick the ones that showed a younger-looking me. |
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Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:59 pm |
she does have a nice glow in the after pix, may be it's just make up or lighting.... |
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Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:06 pm |
bethany wrote: |
Nonie aka AD wrote: |
bethany wrote: |
She actually had 5 photos from each day for people to review, so we don't know if she was smiling in them all or not.
I bought this book many years ago when it first came out. Basically the 3 day plan is just to kick start you on a healthier way of eating overall, which should ultimately improve your health and make you appear to be more vibrant. |
bethanyHow do you know she has 5 photos? Is there a link you could kindly provide? |
It was in the article Lacy posted:
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I was careful not to prejudice the jury. I told my friends that I had done a three-day diet designed to erase wrinkles and wanted them to judge the results. I handed each friend a pack of 10 pictures, five of me in blue, five in green. I varied the one on top, and instructed them to separate the photos by bathrobe color and pick the ones that showed a younger-looking me. |
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Oh well, she should have posted all ten and let us compare them. The fact that she selected only two in which she is making different facial expressions to be comparison photos and representations of her experience I find odd and misleading. I could tell you all that my high school friends, relatives etc say I haven't changed a bit from how I looked years ago. That doesn't necessary make it true. Pictures speak a thousand words and the two she posted tell me her friends misread them (and were fooled) because they ignored the points I mentioned upthread of facial changes depending on the expressions being made. |
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Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:51 pm |
panoslydios wrote: |
Sounds like you have fell for a huge scam
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It is not a scam, it is an evidence-based nutrition. My personal nutritionist is a University Professor of Nutrition in the Faculty of Medicine. The university is included in 10 top universities of the world. If this sounds like scam to you then I have no comments. |
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Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:58 pm |
RussianSunshine wrote: |
panoslydios wrote: |
Sounds like you have fell for a huge scam
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It is not a scam, it is an evidence-based nutrition. My personal nutritionist is a University Professor of Nutrition in the Faculty of Medicine. The university is included in 10 top universities of the world. If this sounds like scam to you then I have no comments. |
Then you are both scammed
Thanks god,no one can sell REAL health ,whatever titles and awards can accumulate |
_________________ We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time. |
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Thu Aug 22, 2013 2:08 pm |
panoslydios wrote: |
Thanks god,no one can sell REAL health ,whatever titles and awards can accumulate |
You are right. Let's just eat pineapples. |
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Thu Aug 22, 2013 3:13 pm |
Nice one RS |
_________________ 46 got (PMD,Caci,QuasarMD,Tria , skin spatula) Using, environ , myfawnie serums, lacsal, retinol, GHk probably more but too embarrased to say |
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Thu Aug 22, 2013 4:02 pm |
Just a few days ago I had a long discussion with my very clever oldest about diet and environment. People eat what is available in terms of their needs. The needs of people in a tropical environment differ from the needs of people living in colder climats. Same re. the amount of physical and mental energy they have to use. The ideal diet for an office worker in a regulated controlled climate differs from the ideal diet for a farm worker.
There is no one size fits all-diet IMO. And besides that - with Fukushima leaking like crazy, how long will wild fish be something you want to eat?
Listen to your body - not the 'I need comfort so I need M & M's' message but waking up thinking of broccoli, or craving butter kind of thing. I really think the body can make us conscious of what our needs are, as long as you don't override those messages with junk food tastes. |
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Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:05 pm |
RussianSunshine wrote: |
panoslydios wrote: |
Thanks god,no one can sell REAL health ,whatever titles and awards can accumulate |
You are right. Let's just eat pineapples. |
Human being is fruitarian and breatherian.
Pineapple is the best thing to apply to face.It eats the dead cells like nothing else.You cant beat the live enzymes of pineapple.Imaigne what happens ingesting the stuff-such a blood purifier.Plus it cant be sprayed so much chemically.
But you never seem to learn and trust people and words like ''top 10 universities'' ''top nutritionist''.All these dudes they are going to age before their eyes because they couldnt live in harmony with nature.
I suggest all these diets are 100% scam .All the plump you get from this diet is just your body trying to detox the fish oil giving the illusion of better skin. |
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Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:26 pm |
panoslydios wrote: |
But you never seem to learn and trust people and words like ''top 10 universities'' ''top nutritionist''.All these dudes they are going to age before their eyes because they couldnt live in harmony with nature. |
This "dude" is a 77 year old woman who still actively teaches high-level classes at the university. I want to be able to remember what she remembers when I get 77 years old! I also want to have her eyes, skin and body, s'il-vous-plait?
panoslydios wrote: |
Imaigne what happens ingesting the stuff-such a blood purifier. |
I never thought that nutrition is about imagining stuff.
panoslydios wrote: |
Human being is fruitarian and breatherian. |
Where did that come from?
Surviving on pineapples is a road to disaster. They have a high glycemic index and glycemic load. That means they cause sustained spikes in blood sugar and insulin levels, which in turn increases your risk of type 2 diabetes. |
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Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:20 pm |
oh RS, dont stress yourself...lol... today it's pineapple, tomorrow it ll be watermelons or mangoes or what not... |
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Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:38 pm |
daler wrote: |
oh RS, dont stress yourself...lol... today it's pineapple, tomorrow it ll be watermelons or mangoes or what not... |
Ah, ok. |
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Fri Aug 23, 2013 1:44 am |
RussianSunshine wrote: |
panoslydios wrote: |
But you never seem to learn and trust people and words like ''top 10 universities'' ''top nutritionist''.All these dudes they are going to age before their eyes because they couldnt live in harmony with nature. |
This "dude" is a 77 year old woman who still actively teaches high-level classes at the university. I want to be able to remember what she remembers when I get 77 years old! I also want to have her eyes, skin and body, s'il-vous-plait?
panoslydios wrote: |
Imaigne what happens ingesting the stuff-such a blood purifier. |
I never thought that nutrition is about imagining stuff.
panoslydios wrote: |
Human being is fruitarian and breatherian. |
Where did that come from?
Surviving on pineapples is a road to disaster. They have a high glycemic index and glycemic load. That means they cause sustained spikes in blood sugar and insulin levels, which in turn increases your risk of type 2 diabetes. |
If you believe fish is human food,then i suggest by now your lymph glands are clogged from fish protein and you better also do some de-worming.
There are so many tribes that lived only on pineapples and coconuts suggesting that glycemic index of fruits and the notion that they affect human health in a bad way is a scam.
Human body is designed to live on 200+type of sugars.
Your nutritionist is still on her way to learning. |
_________________ We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time. |
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Fri Aug 23, 2013 4:00 am |
Wait a second, Panoslydios you talk about scams and then you mention fruitarian and breatherian. Its funny as a lot of the so called famous fruitarians and breatherians that I know of have all been questioned at times and proved to be anything but those in essence. There’s little evidence that a person can survive on just breath, in fact there are more studies to suggest that without water the body dies within a few days, so how the hell did you come up with that one may I ask? Seriously though I’m always worried as my younger sister at one point during the 80’s fell into a crowd that promoted such things and made herself desperately ill trying to follow it all. In my mind these are really dangerous.
For what its worth, I also don’t think that the fruitarian and breatherians that I know of look wonderful or live in harmony with nature? For example we know too much fruit can weaken tooth enamel (just ask any dentist).
panoslydios wrote: |
Human being is fruitarian and breatherian.
Pineapple is the best thing to apply to face.It eats the dead cells like nothing else.You cant beat the live enzymes of pineapple.Imaigne what happens ingesting the stuff-such a blood purifier.Plus it cant be sprayed so much chemically.
But you never seem to learn and trust people and words like ''top 10 universities'' ''top nutritionist''.All these dudes they are going to age before their eyes because they couldnt live in harmony with nature.
I suggest all these diets are 100% scam .All the plump you get from this diet is just your body trying to detox the fish oil giving the illusion of better skin. |
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Fri Aug 23, 2013 4:07 am |
Panoslydios – I think you have a strange concept of nutrition moreso than others. For what its worth, pineapples are extremely high in sugars, and too much like anything can have a disasterous effect. The tribes that often live on pineapples and coconuts have done so for a very prolonged period of time, and so their genes etc have grown accustomed to that food etc and the environment in which they live are often high in heat so the sugar burns off faster than say here in the Western world. The 200 types of sugars that the human body is designed to live on is actually questionable and there is insufficient data to say that the body can live on sugars alone. So I think that you are still also on your way to learning based on those comments.
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If you believe fish is human food,then i suggest by now your lymph glands are clogged from fish protein and you better also do some de-worming.
There are so many tribes that lived only on pineapples and coconuts suggesting that glycemic index of fruits and the notion that they affect human health in a bad way is a scam.
Human body is designed to live on 200+type of sugars.
Your nutritionist is still on her way to learning. |
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Fri Aug 23, 2013 4:39 am |
TM
Soo well said!!
But dont forget we have gone from OJ only diet to Pineapples and air
Whatever next
Maybe just Air
Lets just assume that this is Silly Season |
_________________ 46 got (PMD,Caci,QuasarMD,Tria , skin spatula) Using, environ , myfawnie serums, lacsal, retinol, GHk probably more but too embarrased to say |
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Fri Aug 23, 2013 6:32 pm |
10Sylvia5 wrote: |
Whatever next
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Panoslydios, don't forget to add the word SAFE in your signature line re secrets of longevity --
"The secret to longevity and beauty:Live on pineapples and season sweet ripe fruits,absorb the Sun,Breathe the Air and do occassional {safe} sex. and never ever eat an acid forming food." |
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Fri Aug 23, 2013 7:26 pm |
Nothing but fruit? LOL I guess I'm screwed, I live in the north where they aren't exactly abundant. I am a big believer in a varied diet- all of one group of food stresses the body out. |
_________________ Late 30's, fair skin, dark hair. Retin A, DIY potions. Missions completed- acne, acne scarring, 11's, redness, contact dermatitis. Working on maintenence and cellulite. |
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Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:22 pm |
The late Steve Jobs of Apple Computer fame was a fruitarian and got pancreatic cancer. Ashton Kutcher, who plays Jobs in the film, adopted Jobs' fruitarian diet before and during filming and wound up in the hospital.
I agree with the previous poster who said that eating pineapple, coconut and other tropical fruits worked fine for natives in the South Pacific Islands, who also supplemented their diet with fish and maybe even the unlucky seagull or pelican who flew by. Their bodies had adapted over centuries to digest that stuff. Same with Eskimos who ate mostly fish, whale and seal meat and lots of blubber (fat). Little to no fruits or vegetables beyond what they could scavenge when the ice on the tundra melted.
Even in the US, many native Americans have abandoned the white man's diet and have gone back to a native diet of wild game, wild grasses, tubers, fruits, and fish and their heart disease and diabetes have vanished. They ate like their ancestors did.
This sort of diet makes the most sense to me. Eat the way your grandparents and great grandparents did, i.e. if they were German, eat traditional German food. |
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Fri Aug 23, 2013 9:27 pm |
SoftSkin wrote: |
This sort of diet makes the most sense to me. Eat the way your grandparents and great grandparents did, i.e. if they were German, eat traditional German food. |
and what if each grandparent came from a different background I guess then u eat the american/US diet, lol |
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Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:40 pm |
SoftSkin wrote: |
The late Steve Jobs of Apple Computer fame was a fruitarian and got pancreatic cancer. Ashton Kutcher, who plays Jobs in the film, adopted Jobs' fruitarian diet before and during filming and wound up in the hospital.
I agree with the previous poster who said that eating pineapple, coconut and other tropical fruits worked fine for natives in the South Pacific Islands, who also supplemented their diet with fish and maybe even the unlucky seagull or pelican who flew by. Their bodies had adapted over centuries to digest that stuff. Same with Eskimos who ate mostly fish, whale and seal meat and lots of blubber (fat). Little to no fruits or vegetables beyond what they could scavenge when the ice on the tundra melted.
Even in the US, many native Americans have abandoned the white man's diet and have gone back to a native diet of wild game, wild grasses, tubers, fruits, and fish and their heart disease and diabetes have vanished. They ate like their ancestors did.
This sort of diet makes the most sense to me. Eat the way your grandparents and great grandparents did, i.e. if they were German, eat traditional German food. |
Its not like that
Humans can adapt to anything even arsenicum,but that doesnt mean i will eat non human stuff-poisons because my ancestors were fools .
There is only one cure and that is living in real harmony with nature. |
_________________ We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time. |
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Sat Aug 24, 2013 1:12 am |
Though it's true that the ability to digest certain foods has a genetic component, this does not mean that what your great grandparents ate is necessarily healthier than a modern diet. And what about a mixed background?
A local, traditional diet is based on the available foodstuffs, the climate and the way of life of that region. Humans adapt to that over time (think centuries). Think of the Masai, yes those tall beautiful people, who live on cow's blood and milk and occasionally a bit of meat. A far cry from a diet of fruit and nuts, but who looks healthier? |
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Sat Aug 24, 2013 5:35 am |
Oh my goodness! Some unusual posts in this thread.
Just eat a sensible, healthy diet, exercise and wear sunscreen.
Practice moderation.
It's not complicated. It is common sense.
This thread did give me a salmon craving though. I had a smoked salmon and salad sandwich for lunch and a creamy, salmon pasta dish is on the menu for tomorrow night
I think salmon sushi will be making an appearance in my future soon too. |
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Sat Aug 24, 2013 1:09 pm |
Angelina Ballerina wrote: |
Oh my goodness! Some unusual posts in this thread.
Just eat a sensible, healthy diet, exercise and wear sunscreen.
Practice moderation.
It's not complicated. It is common sense.
This thread did give me a salmon craving though. I had a smoked salmon and salad sandwich for lunch and a creamy, salmon pasta dish is on the menu for tomorrow night
I think salmon sushi will be making an appearance in my future soon too. |
I love salmon and you just made my mind up on what to have for dinner: spicy salmon sushi rolls! So thanks, Angelina Ballerina! |
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Sun Aug 25, 2013 2:12 am |
SoftSkin wrote: |
Desperate people will fall for anything. Eat salmon 3 days PER WEEK for the rest of your life and your skin will look a little better and you will definitely be healthier overall. I've done that for years but I can't say for sure that it was the ONLY thing that improved my skin.
That diet will make your face look thinner because you will lose water weight since there are no grains (one meal with oatmeal) and no sugar. A good way to jump start a lifestyle change regarding your diet so there is no harm in it. |
Also because he is saying to eat no salt.
Salt makes your face loo more puffy.
For me, I need to have salt and have had problems with not having salt and too low salt.
And if I have no salt and it is hot and am out a lot I get very bad muscle cramps too.
I don't eat tons of salt, mostly sea salt if I add it to foods. |
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