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Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:46 am |
Oh okay that makes more sense. I can understand doctors wouldn't be familiar with a naturopathic term, that's not what they are taught at medical school. Chiropractors are a different thing too. There does appear to be a recent flair for rubbishing doctors, but I think that its unwarranted when you consider how many people they treat, what they are working with and also that people want a quick fix too.
Doctors should be trained with adrenal fatigue and recognising and diagnosing it though, but I can imagine there are often errors made which is worrying.
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And also, my experience is that, "conventional" doctors actually have told me in my face, that they are not familiar with, nor trained to recognize dysbiosis (along with other things such as chiropractors and adrenal fatigue)
So maybe that is why you haven't heard much about it. I consider myself an analytical person (with a Computer Science background) and this idea of dybiosis makes a lot of sense to me, for what I am dealing with. I can be skeptical too, and am open to that I can be wrong too, if I gain more insight. |
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Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:18 pm |
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TheresaMary wrote: |
I've never heard nutritionists or doctors talk about it and you'd think it be widespread if it were true?
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This is when my body is not even in a state to be able to assimilate foods properly anymore. |
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And also, my experience is that, "conventional" doctors actually have told me in my face, that they are not familiar with, nor trained to recognize dysbiosis (along with other things such as chiropractors and adrenal fatigue)
So maybe that is why you haven't heard much about it. I consider myself an analytical person (with a Computer Science background) and this idea of dybiosis makes a lot of sense to me, for what I am dealing with. I can be skeptical too, and am open to that I can be wrong too, if I gain more insight. |
The typical American MD is not trained to apply nutritional principals. I do 8 sprays of magnesium a day and often use the Calm product in the evening before bed. Mg is an important mineral and one that is sorely deficient among many in this country. It is less and less in the foods we eat - due to soil depletion etc. Bella mentioned prefering foods for acquiring but in the case of magnesium, supplement is likly advisable for most of us. Magnesium levels in typical foods known for magnesium may not get close to a typical level of many years ago. |
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Fri Sep 27, 2013 2:11 am |
I've heard from some sources though that the stuff said about magnesium deficiency could be incorrect. Two argiculatural bodies in the UK were recently on TV and they said that much of the data on magnesium depletion in the soils was completely incorrect and actually based on out of date data that was collected several years ago.
I do think it plays a role for sure, but how much of a major deficiency it is I'm not so sure. |
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Fri Sep 27, 2013 6:12 am |
TheresaMary wrote: |
I've heard from some sources though that the stuff said about magnesium deficiency could be incorrect. Two argiculatural bodies in the UK were recently on TV and they said that much of the data on magnesium depletion in the soils was completely incorrect and actually based on out of date data that was collected several years ago.
I do think it plays a role for sure, but how much of a major deficiency it is I'm not so sure. |
Who knows. I try to eat natural foods as much as possible. I get deliveries of produce from a local organic farm, and I make my own nut milks. Hopefully that is enough.
I know there is some relationship between calcium and magnesium and I would be worried about throwing off that balance with supplementation. Especially since I dont know much about it offhand. |
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Fri Sep 27, 2013 7:04 am |
Well I suppose that's the tricky part - who can you trust. According to this thread and others the medical world is in a conspiracy, but then can you trust other non-qualified professionals with your health? Its enough to make your head spin! |
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Fri Sep 27, 2013 11:38 am |
TheresaMary wrote: |
Well I suppose that's the tricky part - who can you trust. According to this thread and others the medical world is in a conspiracy, but then can you trust other non-qualified professionals with your health? Its enough to make your head spin! |
Yes, all that information (especially the stuff that I find on the internet) is making my head spin! But for me, all that reading is paying off, because I believe I am definitely improving on my health, after struggling with some serious chronic conditions, since four years ago. Not without a lot of trial and error, though. My healthcare protocol, though it can be tedious, is a huge divergence from what had been prescribed and insisted on me by the doctors and specialists. I am still struggling (and honestly, still figuring out which of my remedies made the most impact) but seriously believe I would not have made any progress to this extent, if I were to strictly follow the docs' orders.
I do not want to sound like I dis doctors - I respect them for the hard work and training to be one. I just believe the medical system is terribly outdated, and the doctors are simply trained to follow strictly the training material. Why is it so hard to include, say, holistic care in the curriculum, like in France, Hong Kong and Japan? This might happen in the next 10 years, but I definitely do not want to wait that long suffering |
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Fri Sep 27, 2013 11:56 am |
sister sweets wrote: |
I do 8 sprays of magnesium a day and often use the Calm product in the evening before bed. Mg is an important mineral and one that is sorely deficient among many in this country. It is less and less in the foods we eat - due to soil depletion etc. Bella mentioned prefering foods for acquiring but in the case of magnesium, supplement is likly advisable for most of us. Magnesium levels in typical foods known for magnesium may not get close to a typical level of many years ago. |
Thanks for sharing all the info, sister sweets. (On the other hand, I am new to posting, and wonder if it is fine for us to discuss health matters here )
I am really liking this topical magnesium. I started on this only a few weeks ago, and I attribute this to a significant improvement to various aspects to my health like I said earlier.
I had been taking Magnesium Citrate, about 200-400mg a day, but it was painful trying to fill the caps manually from powder (I couldn't find caps or tabs that have high enough doses that are not in giant tabs). And the effect was nowhere comparable to topical.
A question for you: If you use the spray during the day, does it get too relaxing? Just yesterday, I used the oil for pain control, and found that I got very tired later in the day.
For me, it's believable that Mg levels in food have gone down.. or our Mg needs are higher. I read somewhere (but don't quote me on this ) that for those who had been on long-term medication, it tends to deplete the Mg stores in the body. Maybe our more chemically laden lifestyle is increasing our Mg needs then?
Also, looking at the list of high Mg foods, I see that I'm eating a lot of them regularly already - almonds, dark leafy greens, bananas, avocadoes, whole grains (with a lot of quinoa, buckwheat, millet etc.) |
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