Shop with us!!! We sell the most advanced skin care anti-aging cosmetics on the market: cellex-c, phytomer, sothys, dermalogica, md formulations, decleor, valmont, kinerase, yonka, jane iredale, thalgo, yon-ka, ahava, bioelements, jan marini, peter thomas roth, murad, ddf, orlane, glominerals, StriVectin SD.
 
 back to skin care discussion board front page with forums indexEDS Skin Care Forums Search the ForumSearch Most popular all-time Forum TopicsHot! Library
 Guidelines  FAQ  Register
Free gifts for Forum MembersForum Gifts Free Gifts offers at Essential Day SpaFree Gifts Offers  Log in



Talika Photo-Hydra Night (50 ml / 1.69 floz) glotherapeutics Clear Complexion Pads (50 pads) Juice Beauty Blemish Clearing Solutions (4 items)
The more you desire beauty-the more you lose it!

EDS Skin Care Forums Forum Index » EDS Lounge
Reply to topic
Author Message
panoslydios
Preferred Member
15% products discount
free skin care

View user's profileSend private message
Joined: 05 Apr 2013
Posts: 323
Mon Sep 30, 2013 12:27 pm      Reply with quote
And thats right here the dialectics of existence.


If you ask for something the very fact of asking makes you ugly.
For example if you ask for love,you wont get love.You cant get love when you ask for it.

In a similar manner,beauty comes when you dont ask for beauty.
You can be seen by others as beautiful,only when you are not asking beauty.The very fact of not asking makes you beautiful,makes you relaxed.

I might learn to just ride the wave and care about the act itself not the result.Results are for ugly businessmen.

You cant conquer beauty ,you can only relax and let beauty surround you.
Just like you cant bring the sun into your home,but you can open the window.
Jst like you cant possess air in your fist,but you can relax and feel the air with an oen hand.

Caring for results creates only problems.Never something positive.

_________________
We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time.
SoftSkin
VIP Member
20% products discount
free skin care

View user's profileSend private message
Joined: 05 Nov 2009
Posts: 1376
Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:10 pm      Reply with quote
Not true. When I was an ugly duckling teenager I made a list of all the things about my body I wanted to change. I have done just about everything at this point. Worth every penny!
Lotusesther
Preferred Member
15% products discount
free skin care

View user's profileSend private message
Joined: 08 Aug 2011
Posts: 699
Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:31 pm      Reply with quote
Ah, the lust for results. That can thwart any process.

I am certainly not the only one who, looking at old pictures, realises that I was not half as ugly as I thought I was. But somehow you don't get to see it until it's gone.

So yes, I agree, trying to be 'beautiful' which most often means trying to comply with standard that are not realistic, will make you feel, and act, more ugly and selfconscious.
Happiness is the greatest beautifier.
Immacolata
Preferred Member
15% products discount
free skin care

View user's profileSend private message
Joined: 12 Jan 2012
Posts: 731
Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:33 pm      Reply with quote
Then why are you here?

_________________
Derminator, phytoceramides, Retin-A, DIY Vitamin C serum, Ageless if You Dare and Pilates! Smile
panoslydios
Preferred Member
15% products discount
free skin care

View user's profileSend private message
Joined: 05 Apr 2013
Posts: 323
Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:56 pm      Reply with quote
Immacolata wrote:
Then why are you here?


To pass through this step you have to be here or in similar places Wink

You have to die in order to live.

You have to be ugly(Like asking for results here) in order to be beautiful when you break free.

Thats how things work.

_________________
We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time.
CookieD
VIP Member
20% products discount
free skin care

View user's profileSend private message
Joined: 30 Jun 2011
Posts: 1362
Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:23 pm      Reply with quote
If you believe this why are you asking for a DIY receipe for pigmentation? You shouldn't need it.

_________________
Everything has beauty but not everyone sees it
panoslydios
Preferred Member
15% products discount
free skin care

View user's profileSend private message
Joined: 05 Apr 2013
Posts: 323
Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:25 pm      Reply with quote
CookieD wrote:
If you believe this why are you asking for a DIY receipe for pigmentation? You shouldn't need it.


Cookie,that the paradox of things.

_________________
We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time.
havana8
Moderator

View user's profileSend private message
Joined: 09 Sep 2005
Posts: 3393
Mon Sep 30, 2013 6:30 pm      Reply with quote
The Enigma of Beauty
http://science.nationalgeographic.com/science/health-and-human-body/human-body/enigma-beauty/#page=1

Two More Cents on Dove
http://www.the-beheld.com/2013/05/two-more-cents-on-dove.html
Immacolata
Preferred Member
15% products discount
free skin care

View user's profileSend private message
Joined: 12 Jan 2012
Posts: 731
Mon Sep 30, 2013 7:55 pm      Reply with quote
Not a paradox, just simply hypocrisy.

_________________
Derminator, phytoceramides, Retin-A, DIY Vitamin C serum, Ageless if You Dare and Pilates! Smile
catski
VIP Member
20% products discount
free skin care

View user's profileSend private message
Joined: 04 Oct 2006
Posts: 2198
Tue Oct 01, 2013 1:08 am      Reply with quote
Isnt the nature of the asking, the important point?


If we ask from a position of humility -yes, we know we are fortunate indeed to have time and resources to focus on external appearances - and gratitude,ie thankyou for the blessing of time and wealth to concern ourselves with appearances..from a position of caring and celebration of the feminine..that we want to give what we can to life and those around us, to be as lovely as possible to honour our mothers and fathers and to gift this level of care as a model of cherishing to our children, and certainly to extend the whole ethos of cherishing and preservation to those around us and in our own psyches.

If our asking is from this heart position, then this is a creative act.


If we demand, from an entrenched greedy ego position, then yes, I agree with you Panos.
10Sylvia5
Preferred Member
15% products discount
free skin care

View user's profileSend private message
Joined: 05 Aug 2010
Posts: 559
Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:34 am      Reply with quote
My goodness, all this metaphysical, navel gazing, I am just too busy Living, beating ageing and making candles Bad Grin Bad Grin Bad Grin

Oh forgot and unblocking blocked sinks!!!(Another story)

_________________
46 got (PMD,Caci,QuasarMD,Tria , skin spatula) Using, environ , myfawnie serums, lacsal, retinol, GHk probably more but too embarrased to say
catski
VIP Member
20% products discount
free skin care

View user's profileSend private message
Joined: 04 Oct 2006
Posts: 2198
Tue Oct 01, 2013 3:22 am      Reply with quote
10Sylvia5 wrote:
My goodness, all this metaphysical, navel gazing, I am just too busy Living, beating ageing and making candles Bad Grin Bad Grin Bad Grin

Oh forgot and unblocking blocked sinks!!!(Another story)


The funny thing is..its perfectly possible to relish deep thought as well as live, unblock the sink, bake great cakes, decorate the house, dress well, have close friendships and make candles if you have the inclination to do so.

May we all
Be blessed with time enough to do all the
enriching things we thing choose, and that includes thinking creatively and posting on the internet!
10Sylvia5
Preferred Member
15% products discount
free skin care

View user's profileSend private message
Joined: 05 Aug 2010
Posts: 559
Tue Oct 01, 2013 4:54 am      Reply with quote
Nice one Catski

_________________
46 got (PMD,Caci,QuasarMD,Tria , skin spatula) Using, environ , myfawnie serums, lacsal, retinol, GHk probably more but too embarrased to say
fawnie
VIP Member
20% products discount
free skin care

View user's profileSend private message
Joined: 09 Feb 2007
Posts: 2284
Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:20 pm      Reply with quote
Well I never aspire to b anything other than the utter and complete slob that I am. Ergo: ah m beeyuteefull ah guess. Laughing

_________________
✪ My go-to products: MyFawnie.BigCartel.com ✪
10Sylvia5
Preferred Member
15% products discount
free skin care

View user's profileSend private message
Joined: 05 Aug 2010
Posts: 559
Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:22 am      Reply with quote
So true Fawnie, you are
oops
didnt mean you are a complete slob Embarassed

_________________
46 got (PMD,Caci,QuasarMD,Tria , skin spatula) Using, environ , myfawnie serums, lacsal, retinol, GHk probably more but too embarrased to say
Autumn1995
VIP Member
20% products discount
free skin care

View user's profileSend private message
Joined: 09 Oct 2009
Posts: 1087
Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:44 pm      Reply with quote
Beauty is really in the eye of the beholder.

One man we work with, thinks his wife is truly the most beautiful women ever. They are happy together.

If he thinks she is beautiful; why would we disagree with him?

_________________
Canadian with fair skin. 50+ years old stll prone to breakouts; but sensitive and reactive.
Moon
Senior Member
10% products discount
free skin care

View user's profileSend private message
Joined: 22 Jan 2012
Posts: 234
Tue Dec 31, 2013 10:50 am      Reply with quote
Quote:
Isnt the nature of the asking, the important point?


If we ask from a position of humility -yes, we know we are fortunate indeed to have time and resources to focus on external appearances - and gratitude,ie thankyou for the blessing of time and wealth to concern ourselves with appearances..from a position of caring and celebration of the feminine..that we want to give what we can to life and those around us, to be as lovely as possible to honour our mothers and fathers and to gift this level of care as a model of cherishing to our children, and certainly to extend the whole ethos of cherishing and preservation to those around us and in our own psyches.

If our asking is from this heart position, then this is a creative act.


If we demand, from an entrenched greedy ego position, then yes, I agree with you Panos.


Catski speaks wisely here. Asking is important if you wish to receive. However you must learn to ask correctly. If asked incorrectly, through the Law of Attraction, you may well create the situation which you are trying to move away from. i.e. if you say I want to be beautiful, you tell the universe that you are not currently beautiful and the universe will respond by creating that reality for you. However if you say I am grateful for this most beautiful physical being that I possess and also for the beautiful person that this magnificent world is causing me to become then you will be in harmony with universal laws and your thoughts will manifest in to reality.
papaya
New Member

View user's profileSend private message
Joined: 21 Jan 2014
Posts: 4
Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:59 pm      Reply with quote
What I like to understand about what panoslydios is saying is that in an ideal world, we should enjoy the journey (taking care of ourselves) and don't stress about reaching the destination because ultimately, with this peaceful state of mind, we will arrive. I personally am not that cool BTW...
hotdocgirl
Preferred Member
15% products discount
free skin care

View user's profileSend private message
Joined: 05 Apr 2010
Posts: 557
Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:14 pm      Reply with quote
hmmm? I never even consider the women on this forum as "trying..or asking" to be beautiful.

I always thought we were all just trying to look our best beautiful selves.
TheresaMary
VIP Member
20% products discount
free skin care

View user's profileSend private message
Joined: 28 Aug 2008
Posts: 2529
Wed Jan 29, 2014 5:11 am      Reply with quote
I have a lot of hard times dealing with Panos and his posts because often there can be a level of truth to them, but its bypassed with silly statements and ineundos that are portrayed as facts and in reality are nothing more than fiction.

Example – he talks here about the ‘dialectics of existence’ without actually a clear comprehension of what that is. It’s a completely out of date methodology for resolving conflict that doesn’t work in the world. Even at the time of its introduction it wasn’t received favourably and was rarely used.

When Panos says: “If you ask for something the very fact of asking makes you ugly.” This is actually completely incorrect according to dialetctics of existence and untrue. Its actually just his personal opinion and not in line with the theories of dialectics. Likewise his explanation of “You have to die in order to live” is again complete and utter nonsense that he is using. Its not at all true – you do not have to die to live – but most of us are not living as much as we could be living simply because we are unaware of it.

Likewise results are not just for “ugly” businessmen. Results can be great indicators that what you are doing is working or not working, so to rubbish anyone who has an interest or focus on results is very revealing of Panos and his nature.

Panos is very opinionated and passionate about his stuff, which I like, but there is a fine line between trying to make people adopt your points of views compared with making out that what you are saying is completely true and factual when not even 5% of it is so
TheresaMary
VIP Member
20% products discount
free skin care

View user's profileSend private message
Joined: 28 Aug 2008
Posts: 2529
Wed Jan 29, 2014 5:13 am      Reply with quote
Absolutely I'm in my 60's now and wouldn't go back to looking how I did in my 30's at all, but I want to look as good and best as I can for my age. For me its not about going backwards - but going forwards looking and feeling healthy and alive. To me asking for things, whether its beauty, or health, is one way of getting the universe which is abundant to start delivering things to us in all shapes and sizes. Without asking you don't get really is my interesting thoughts/beliefs.
hotdocgirl wrote:
hmmm? I never even consider the women on this forum as "trying..or asking" to be beautiful.

I always thought we were all just trying to look our best beautiful selves.
System
Automatic Message
Thu May 24, 2018 8:28 pm
If this is your first visit to the EDS Forums please take the time to register. Registration is required for you to post on the forums. Registration will also give you the ability to track messages of interest, send private messages to other users, participate in Gift Certificates draws and enjoy automatic discounts for shopping at our online store. Registration is free and takes just a few seconds to complete.

Click Here to join our community.

If you are already a registered member on the forums, please login to gain full access to the site.

Reply to topic



glominerals Dual Essence Clutch StriVectin Oxygen Infusion Smoothing Mask (50 ml / 1.7 floz) Decleor Aroma Duo Neroli & Hydra Floral Light (2 items)