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Indented Stretch Marks
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Zulema
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Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:27 am      Reply with quote
I realize there is a stretch mark for derma-rolling thread, but none which talk about indentation of stretch marks.

My question regards pitted/indented stretchmarks...

1. Who has had success with a dermaroller for this type of stretchmarks?

2. What kind of results did you get (i.e did they fill in, did they not?) ? How long?

3. Pictures would be nice---all I read about are people who have problems with the appearance of stretch marks but not with indentation (which if you have them) know that they are not very visible until you get into harsh lighting/sunlight.

I have rolled my stomach once (1.5,Ret A, Vit C) if dermarolling does not help, I would like to know to discontinue and try something else.

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Tue Nov 26, 2013 7:41 pm      Reply with quote
I don't know if you saw my posts on the "wrinkle patches" and "sleep lines" threads about using ScarAway pads as night time wrinkle pads but while I was researching those for use for wrinkles, I looked at several other types of scar pads as well. I remember a reviewer somewhere saying that the Cica Care silicone gel sheeting helped to raise indented scars. If it can raise indented scars, it makes sense that it can raise indented stretch marks.

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Fri Nov 29, 2013 9:09 am      Reply with quote
Hi zulema.

All my posts about stretchmark treatment relate to striae, or indented rips in the skin.

I have dermarolled extensively for a long period of time, and used massage and oils, I have had a very large degree of skin regeneration success and filling in off the indentations.

I still have further to go.

My experience of these skin issues, combined with ly experience of silicone strips leads me to advise you without hesitation to save your money, dont waste your time there..just invest in some dermarollers.

Go to the owndoc website and forum for concise info.

Good luck! Just begin, then continue..the only way you can avoid progress is by stopping!
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Tue Dec 03, 2013 9:17 am      Reply with quote
I appreciate your time to answer this post. I will continue to dermaroll and see if this helps.

I would like to add for others with this problem, after my first roll, I see no improvement with indentation.

I do see an improvement with the appearance of my stretchmarks, but as soon as I get into harsh lighting you can see the grooves.

my next roll is in December.

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Tue Dec 03, 2013 10:07 am      Reply with quote
I thought all stretch marks were basically indented? No?

In any case, as Catski mentioned, the owndoc forums has lots of info. They recommend using single needles or single line rollers for this type of situation. You can use the single needles to get into the depth of the indentation a bit better, rather than just rolling on the "shoulders" of the SM (hope that makes sense).

Keep in mind, results come over many months, not immediately.
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Tue Dec 03, 2013 4:02 pm      Reply with quote
On the days your skin has healed from rolling begin microfiber cloth exfoliation everyday.

Uptake on vitamin c (nettle leaf,oranges,etc) and silica(horsetail,diatomaceous earth).

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Fri Dec 06, 2013 4:10 am      Reply with quote
Zulema, I absolutely understand where you are coming from on this. It was my dream to become a professional belly dancer but when I was pregnant with my daughter I gained some stretch marks on my stomach. Not wanting to give up on my dream I have searched and searched for a way to get rid of them.

I have used the own doc single needles, copper peptides, hydroxy acids, retin a, vitamin c serum, body brushing, exfoliation etc. The list goes on.

Question: After all this are they better? Answer: The appearance might be slightly but they are still indented.

Stretch Marks are by definition a tear in the dermis (The middle layer of skin.) The reason why they appear indented is because the epidermis (The top layer of the skin) is still intact so it droops over the canyon in the dermis. I say droops because an epidermis with no dermis underneath will have no elasticity. It will therefore droop over the canyon and reveal the dermal tear even more.

The point I am trying to make is this, if you want the stretch mark to be raised you would have to somehow get the pieces of torn dermal skin to stick back together which would by definition get rid of the stretch mark all together.

So there you have it: The truth about stretch marks. People will try to sell you things which claim to get rid of the stretch marks or reduce their appearance but unless it is something that somehow erases the scar tissue on either side of the tear of the dermis and sticks each side back together then you can be guaranteed that it will not work.

"Reducing the appearance of stretch marks" basically means stimulating collagen and skin renewal in the epidermis and as I have just explained, this is not where the problem lies. It will not even fix the problem of the epidermis having poor elasticity; only having an intact dermis underneath can do this.

What I have said above is not something which many people will tell you either because it is hard to accept that such scars will always be there or because the person stands to profit from your belief that there must be something that will raise them or make them go away.

Honestly, if you want my opinion, the thing which currently stands the most chance of getting rid of them is visualisation! Anything else is just hype!

Sorry to sound blunt but I want you to know this. I don't think it is fair how much money is made out of people being told that if they buy this cream or have this treatment done they may be able to get rid of the stretch marks or at least reduce them. Lord knows how much I have spent already...
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