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Sun Dec 22, 2013 12:15 am  |
I’m a 21 year old male and about six weeks ago, I developed what I think is a “turkey neck” look pretty much overnight, and it’s ruining my life because I’m too self conscious to leave the house. I would attach images but I haven't posted enough.
Some background info:
I got chubby when I was around 15-17 years old by eating junk food all day every day, and when I was 18, I decided to get fit and lost 25kg over about four months. It’s been two years since I got to my goal weight, and my face has been thinning out and tightening up slowly since then (I had a lot of fat in my face and neck when I was overweight).
I try to be healthy most of the time (eating the right foods, drinking fresh juices, exercising), but I also know that there’ve been many periods over the past couple of years where I don’t eat much at all, maybe like 500 calories a day. There have also been many periods where I’ve binge eaten for a while, not too badly, but enough that I’ll gain a couple of kilos. My face and neck also seem to gain weight easily when I binge eat. Whenever I get to the stage where I feel too bad for binge eating, I’ll pretty much stop eating for a few days to get back to my goal weight.
For the last six months I’d been eating pretty regularly day-in, day-out, and was looking really good, the skin on my face and neck seemed to be tighter than it had ever been and I had a nice neckline. Before I noticed the “turkey neck”, I got into a depressed state and was binge eating junk food pretty badly for about two weeks (maybe 4000 calories per day). This made my face and neck swell up a bit, not too badly, but it was noticeable. When I finally decided to stop the binge eating and subsequently didn’t eat for a few days, my filled-out neck shrunk back and turned into the “turkey neck” I have now overnight.
I’ve done research and know it’s my platysmal bands bunching together and sagging. I’ve noticed the platysmal bands in the mirror in certain lighting before, but they weren’t sagging until now, they just followed the line of my neck. I’ve also thought I had a “turkey neck” appearance many times over the last couple of years, but it was always when I was binge eating and the whole neck would sag together, rather than just the platysmal bands, and once I ate less my neck went back to normal.
I know the lifestyle I’m leading at the moment isn’t ideal for my skins health. I smoke marijuana quite a bit (about two joints a day), and am worried that the smoke is contributing to my damaged skin. I also usually smoke before bed (every night), so I thought I might never be getting quality sleep and therefore not letting my body rejuvenate itself. I’m worried nutritional deficiency is another contributing factor due to not eating much as time. I also don’t drink much water a lot of the time but know that I should (I just forget). I wear concealer on my face and a lot of the time I go to bed without washing my face. I don’t have the best genes for my face and neck, I look just like my mother, and although she has nice skin tone and texture, she has lots of excess skin on her neck and has had the turkey neck look for as long as I can remember.
The fact that I’m only 21 and dealing with this makes me feel like I can’t socialise at all. People refer to people my age as the epitome of youth, and ageing women say, “I’ll never look 21 again”, yet I’m 21 and dealing with this. Another thing is that I know I’m considered quite attractive: good jaw line, nice cheekbones, nice blue eyes, so I feel like the turkey neck contrasts with the rest of my appearance SO MUCH, people might look at me and think I’m gorgeous, but as soon as they notice the turkey neck, they’ll think the total opposite.
When I pull the neck skin up towards my jaw line, my neck goes back to how it looked beforehand. What are some things I can do to try and tighten up my skin and get my neck back to the way it looked before? After New Years I’m going to go crazy with diet, eating as many superfoods and fresh juices as I can, taking supplements, drinking as much water as I can, and obviously stopping the smoking completely. I also thought of going to a dermatologist to get a prescription for Retin-A. I already moisturise my face and neck and slather on sunscreen everyday, which is one plus.
Sorry about the long post but any advice on what I could do to improve this, or what could be the main factor causing it, would be INCREDIBLY APPRECIATED as it is literally making me go crazy and ruining my life. |
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Sun Dec 22, 2013 8:08 am |
I just want to address where you said "Another thing is that I know I’m considered quite attractive: good jaw line, nice cheekbones, nice blue eyes, so I feel like the turkey neck contrasts with the rest of my appearance SO MUCH, people might look at me and think I’m gorgeous, but as soon as they notice the turkey neck, they’ll think the total opposite."
That's YOUR interpretation of how people will look at you. If you don't have any hard evidence that people are really thinking this, I wouldn't assume it. They will notice your positive features way more than one small negative thing. And I suspect that your turkey neck as you call it probably looks worse to you because you are so young. It might seem worse to you than it actually is.
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Sun Dec 22, 2013 8:21 am |
| also, if it's ruining your life by making you not want to leave the house, you might well have body dysmorphic disorder. You might want to look into addressing that in some way. You shouldnt feel like that. |
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Sun Dec 22, 2013 9:12 am |
First and foremost, this yoyo dieting needs to stop. You have got to develop good eating habits so that you maintain a steady weight. Until you do that, any remedial steps you take to fix your neck will be for naught. You are still young so you have the fortune of still having good skin elasticity. But even then, bingeing then starving yourself to lose weight will affect how quickly your skin responds to the weight loss and you will have sag.
I don't know what your diet is like but I do know that if you made this a rule of thumb: to eat breakfast like a king, lunch like a prince and dinner like a pauper, you would see excess weight shed off and maintaining a steady weight would be a breeze. Also surround yourself with wholesome nutrition foods. Empty calories do nothing for you. If you filled your home with only good food, you would soon get used to eating just that and really not care for junk. The reaction to sweet things after going without sugar shared in the thread about the difference sugar makes to skin is true. You cultivate habits of enjoying only those things that are beneficial to you, and soon enough junk foods you previously enjoyed no longer have that appeal. And there is nothing better than not feeling deprived but voluntarily not wanting food that is harmful to you.
The king-prince-pauper method involves making breakfast the biggest and heaviest meal of the day, lunch slightly smaller, and dinner the lightest. So for instance I lost weight eating for breakfast:fruit/fruit juice, steel cut oatmeal with craisins and vanilla almond milk (think 5 of the Quaker Oats packs), egg, sausage, turkey bacon and sometimes fish, toast with butter and marmalade, coffee. Lunch might have been chicken and salad or steamed veggies, maybe a small serving of starch (potatoes, brown rice, etc). Dinner may have been like lunch (say, fish and veggies) but I usually didn't have carbs. Or I might have had a smoothie or SlimFast shake for dinner. And I had my dinner before 7 pm. If I wanted chocolate or cake or any high calorie treat, I had it earlier in the day so I could work it out moving about. But over time, cravings for junk diminished and I cringed at the sight of syrupy sweet things or greasy looking things. The thought of them sliding down my throat was like imagining swallowing someone's phlegm. Yuck! If you come from a home where dinner is the heaviest/largest meal of the day, save it and have it for breakfast.
Eating this way became a part of my life before I turned 20 and still is. I don't even have to think about it. I just cannot go to bed on a stuffed tummy so I have to eat light before bed and this way I don't end up packing on the calories because I don't get to burn them off.and I wake up ready to feast. Even if I didn't have another meal all day after a good Nonie breakfast, I would be fine. When my hubby and I go to IHOP for breakfast the waitresses are usually shocked by how much we eat. I of course skip the syrupy nasty pancake crap...but give me everything else, thank you very much. I must eat a lot on waking up. Even when I have a lie in like today, brunch will be huge...then I will just have a light dinner later on. And thus maintaining my weight has not been a struggle the way it was in my teens.
Once you have your weight (and therefore health) under control so you aren't losing and gaining weight overnight by eating right, then the suggestions in the thread below may help. Also I believe in taking a good multivitamin/mineral supplement and essential fatty acids. Making fruits and veggies a major part of your diet, especially the dark colored ones, will serve you well. And do not forget to drink water!
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=49048 |
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Sun Dec 22, 2013 9:41 am |
| 296091lwj wrote: |
I’m a 21 year old male and about six weeks ago, I developed what I think is a “turkey neck” look pretty much overnight, and it’s ruining my life because I’m too self conscious to leave the house. I would attach images but I haven't posted enough.
Some background info:
I got chubby when I was around 15-17 years old by eating junk food all day every day, and when I was 18, I decided to get fit and lost 25kg over about four months. It’s been two years since I got to my goal weight, and my face has been thinning out and tightening up slowly since then (I had a lot of fat in my face and neck when I was overweight).
I try to be healthy most of the time (eating the right foods, drinking fresh juices, exercising), but I also know that there’ve been many periods over the past couple of years where I don’t eat much at all, maybe like 500 calories a day. There have also been many periods where I’ve binge eaten for a while, not too badly, but enough that I’ll gain a couple of kilos. My face and neck also seem to gain weight easily when I binge eat. Whenever I get to the stage where I feel too bad for binge eating, I’ll pretty much stop eating for a few days to get back to my goal weight.
For the last six months I’d been eating pretty regularly day-in, day-out, and was looking really good, the skin on my face and neck seemed to be tighter than it had ever been and I had a nice neckline. Before I noticed the “turkey neck”, I got into a depressed state and was binge eating junk food pretty badly for about two weeks (maybe 4000 calories per day). This made my face and neck swell up a bit, not too badly, but it was noticeable. When I finally decided to stop the binge eating and subsequently didn’t eat for a few days, my filled-out neck shrunk back and turned into the “turkey neck” I have now overnight.
I’ve done research and know it’s my platysmal bands bunching together and sagging. I’ve noticed the platysmal bands in the mirror in certain lighting before, but they weren’t sagging until now, they just followed the line of my neck. I’ve also thought I had a “turkey neck” appearance many times over the last couple of years, but it was always when I was binge eating and the whole neck would sag together, rather than just the platysmal bands, and once I ate less my neck went back to normal.
I know the lifestyle I’m leading at the moment isn’t ideal for my skins health. I smoke marijuana quite a bit (about two joints a day), and am worried that the smoke is contributing to my damaged skin. I also usually smoke before bed (every night), so I thought I might never be getting quality sleep and therefore not letting my body rejuvenate itself. I’m worried nutritional deficiency is another contributing factor due to not eating much as time. I also don’t drink much water a lot of the time but know that I should (I just forget). I wear concealer on my face and a lot of the time I go to bed without washing my face. I don’t have the best genes for my face and neck, I look just like my mother, and although she has nice skin tone and texture, she has lots of excess skin on her neck and has had the turkey neck look for as long as I can remember.
The fact that I’m only 21 and dealing with this makes me feel like I can’t socialise at all. People refer to people my age as the epitome of youth, and ageing women say, “I’ll never look 21 again”, yet I’m 21 and dealing with this. Another thing is that I know I’m considered quite attractive: good jaw line, nice cheekbones, nice blue eyes, so I feel like the turkey neck contrasts with the rest of my appearance SO MUCH, people might look at me and think I’m gorgeous, but as soon as they notice the turkey neck, they’ll think the total opposite.
When I pull the neck skin up towards my jaw line, my neck goes back to how it looked beforehand. What are some things I can do to try and tighten up my skin and get my neck back to the way it looked before? After New Years I’m going to go crazy with diet, eating as many superfoods and fresh juices as I can, taking supplements, drinking as much water as I can, and obviously stopping the smoking completely. I also thought of going to a dermatologist to get a prescription for Retin-A. I already moisturise my face and neck and slather on sunscreen everyday, which is one plus.
Sorry about the long post but any advice on what I could do to improve this, or what could be the main factor causing it, would be INCREDIBLY APPRECIATED as it is literally making me go crazy and ruining my life. |
Here's the thing. If you are a young, highly attractive (by your own description) blue eyed (and I love blue eyes!) 21 year old man, and a bit of loose skin on your neck is causing you to ruin your life and not want to leave the house, that is something wrong there. I'm feeling it's more psychological. No amount of eating right (as great as that is for us) is going to fix that aspect of it.
You're an attractive young man. Do you really want to look back and see you wasted those looks thinking about something that probably most people looking at you don't think is that big of a deal? I think you might have lost perspective. That's my hunch anyways, even though I havent seen any pics.
I just get concerned when I see posts like this. |
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Sun Dec 22, 2013 1:56 pm |
| bellabambiiina wrote: |
| also, if it's ruining your life by making you not want to leave the house, you might well have body dysmorphic disorder. You might want to look into addressing that in some way. You shouldnt feel like that. |
That was my first thought. Seeing a dietician was the 2nd. |
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Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:16 pm |
| Nonie aka AD wrote: |
First and foremost, this yoyo dieting needs to stop. You have got to develop good eating habits so that you maintain a steady weight. Until you do that, any remedial steps you take to fix your neck will be for naught. You are still young so you have the fortune of still having good skin elasticity. But even then, bingeing then starving yourself to lose weight will affect how quickly your skin responds to the weight loss and you will have sag.
I don't know what your diet is like but I do know that if you made this a rule of thumb: to eat breakfast like a king, lunch like a prince and dinner like a pauper, you would see excess weight shed off and maintaining a steady weight would be a breeze. Also surround yourself with wholesome nutrition foods. Empty calories do nothing for you. If you filled your home with only good food, you would soon get used to eating just that and really not care for junk. The reaction to sweet things after going without sugar shared in the thread about the difference sugar makes to skin is true. You cultivate habits of enjoying only those things that are beneficial to you, and soon enough junk foods you previously enjoyed no longer have that appeal. And there is nothing better than not feeling deprived but voluntarily not wanting food that is harmful to you.
The king-prince-pauper method involves making breakfast the biggest and heaviest meal of the day, lunch slightly smaller, and dinner the lightest. So for instance I lost weight eating for breakfast:fruit/fruit juice, steel cut oatmeal with craisins and vanilla almond milk (think 5 of the Quaker Oats packs), egg, sausage, turkey bacon and sometimes fish, toast with butter and marmalade, coffee. Lunch might have been chicken and salad or steamed veggies, maybe a small serving of starch (potatoes, brown rice, etc). Dinner may have been like lunch (say, fish and veggies) but I usually didn't have carbs. Or I might have had a smoothie or SlimFast shake for dinner. And I had my dinner before 7 pm. If I wanted chocolate or cake or any high calorie treat, I had it earlier in the day so I could work it out moving about. But over time, cravings for junk diminished and I cringed at the sight of syrupy sweet things or greasy looking things. The thought of them sliding down my throat was like imagining swallowing someone's phlegm. Yuck! If you come from a home where dinner is the heaviest/largest meal of the day, save it and have it for breakfast.
Eating this way became a part of my life before I turned 20 and still is. I don't even have to think about it. I just cannot go to bed on a stuffed tummy so I have to eat light before bed and this way I don't end up packing on the calories because I don't get to burn them off.and I wake up ready to feast. Even if I didn't have another meal all day after a good Nonie breakfast, I would be fine. When my hubby and I go to IHOP for breakfast the waitresses are usually shocked by how much we eat. I of course skip the syrupy nasty pancake crap...but give me everything else, thank you very much. I must eat a lot on waking up. Even when I have a lie in like today, brunch will be huge...then I will just have a light dinner later on. And thus maintaining my weight has not been a struggle the way it was in my teens.
Once you have your weight (and therefore health) under control so you aren't losing and gaining weight overnight by eating right, then the suggestions in the thread below may help. Also I believe in taking a good multivitamin/mineral supplement and essential fatty acids. Making fruits and veggies a major part of your diet, especially the dark colored ones, will serve you well. And do not forget to drink water!
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=49048 |
Wow, no matter how hard I try I doubt I could eat like that...
I can not always eat breakfast right away when I get up as often I feel sick to my stomach in the AM half the time (this is not new...have been to the dr for it many times....)
I also can not eat a huge dinner and go to sleep as I will most likely not be able to digest my food and prob end up getting sick during the night.
-I think my stomach does not make enough acids or something like that....
Maybe for turkey neck you can try some makeup trick for now like contouring or something? |
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Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:50 pm |
| Ottawa Shopper wrote: |
Wow, no matter how hard I try I doubt I could eat like that...
I can not always eat breakfast right away when I get up as often I feel sick to my stomach in the AM half the time (this is not new...have been to the dr for it many times....)
I also can not eat a huge dinner and go to sleep as I will most likely not be able to digest my food and prob end up getting sick during the night.
-I think my stomach does not make enough acids or something like that....
Maybe for turkey neck you can try some makeup trick for now like contouring or something? |
Well, you can make Brunch the biggest meal of the day then just have a light dinner.
You would still be jump starting your metabolism by eating a large meal first. After you have been sleeping, your metabolism is so slow and if you don't start the day with a good chunk of food, then your body continues in that "there-is-a-famine" mode and your metabolism stays low. However, when you eat a nice-sized meal first thing and your body reads that as "plenty of fuel coming in so it is safe to burn whatever is stored up as we aren't in a depression; safe to use up resources" and your metabolism gets on a roll, so you burn calories.
This article talks about losing weight on two meals: http://bloomberg.com/news/2013-06-23/two-large-meals-a-day-tops-six-mini-meals-for-weight-loss.html
Also have your heard about Intermittent Fasting? It also suggests two meals a day and it doesn't matter what time the first meal is as long as you eat both meals within a certain window then nothing for the "fast" period: http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2013/08/06/a-beginners-guide-to-intermittent-fasting/
When I am running late and don't have time for breakfast, I will be sure to have an early lunch/brunch around 11 am and then have dinner that evening. I inadvertently do Intermittent fasting. Once you make it a habit to provide your body with enough fuel to start with to carry you through the day, you will find you will not be OK with a tiny bite. Your day will just not be right unless you have pumped enough gas in you to carry you through the day. |
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Fri Dec 27, 2013 4:23 pm |
| Nonie aka AD wrote: |
| Ottawa Shopper wrote: |
Wow, no matter how hard I try I doubt I could eat like that...
I can not always eat breakfast right away when I get up as often I feel sick to my stomach in the AM half the time (this is not new...have been to the dr for it many times....)
I also can not eat a huge dinner and go to sleep as I will most likely not be able to digest my food and prob end up getting sick during the night.
-I think my stomach does not make enough acids or something like that....
Maybe for turkey neck you can try some makeup trick for now like contouring or something? |
Well, you can make Brunch the biggest meal of the day then just have a light dinner.
You would still be jump starting your metabolism by eating a large meal first. After you have been sleeping, your metabolism is so slow and if you don't start the day with a good chunk of food, then your body continues in that "there-is-a-famine" mode and your metabolism stays low. However, when you eat a nice-sized meal first thing and your body reads that as "plenty of fuel coming in so it is safe to burn whatever is stored up as we aren't in a depression; safe to use up resources" and your metabolism gets on a roll, so you burn calories.
This article talks about losing weight on two meals: http://bloomberg.com/news/2013-06-23/two-large-meals-a-day-tops-six-mini-meals-for-weight-loss.html
Also have your heard about Intermittent Fasting? It also suggests two meals a day and it doesn't matter what time the first meal is as long as you eat both meals within a certain window then nothing for the "fast" period: http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2013/08/06/a-beginners-guide-to-intermittent-fasting/
When I am running late and don't have time for breakfast, I will be sure to have an early lunch/brunch around 11 am and then have dinner that evening. I inadvertently do Intermittent fasting. Once you make it a habit to provide your body with enough fuel to start with to carry you through the day, you will find you will not be OK with a tiny bite. Your day will just not be right unless you have pumped enough gas in you to carry you through the day. |
Thanks for the tips!
I do not need to lose any weight (I prob need to gain 4lbs or get some muscle back...am working on that even though injuries do not help).
Right now I am 5"5 and 59kg or around 129lbs.Z
-normally my weight has been 63kg as I am usually much more athletic and have more muscle than I do now.
I think this year has not gone as well for me having stomach issues and allergies to a bunch of antibiotics I needed to take just messed up my stomach.
I do know a lot about nutrition and sports and did take some nutrition classes in university.
Also took some sports nutrition workshops with a dietician I know who did workshops for the speed skating club I was in.
(I did want to compete in speed skating a couple years ago, but kind of a tough sport to try and do....)
Not too sure I can eat 6 small meals per day either, I think that I just eat when I am hungry.
So in a day that can vary.
Trying to have 3 meals at the same time all the time, does not work for me either. |
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Fri Dec 27, 2013 11:12 pm |
So what happened to the OP?  |
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Sat Dec 28, 2013 3:28 am |
Curious also....
I did not mean to "hijack" these posts w my somewhat unrelated comments.
I will add a big peeve of forums is the people who post a question or one post and never come back to update and....................leave everyone wondering what happened??? |
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Sat Dec 28, 2013 8:23 am |
Young man.. no offense..but get over yourself.
Volunteer at a charity or help out someone in need. Take your total focus off your physical being and you might feel a thing called "happiness."
I realize this is a beauty forum...but most of us are older gals just trying to fight mother nature on a realistic level. We have husbands, children, homes to maintain, jobs.. and full lives that mean much more to us than a line on our face. We come here as a sideline hobby and interest. It helps..but none of us look ..say your age..21 and never will.
But gosh.. I'm going out of the house today to do all sorts of things. like living my life.
If you're staring in the mirror all the time..obsessed with you looks, not going out of the house. You have issues that can overcome by just taking your focus off yourself.
There is a thing called "balance" and it is needed for a happy life. Your focus should be on balance in your life so your looks don't mean that much to you. because if getting older looking bothers you.. life will bother you..cause it is going to happen.
I don't know who on the forum said it.. but she said.. "we are lucky to be getting older..not everyone gets to.." now that is the truth. |
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Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:32 am |
I'm sure you meant well hotdocgirl, but telling someone with a mental illness like BDD to "get over themselves" isn't the answer.
To the OP:
I really hate to diagnose people online, but it sounds like you may have BDD. I'm sorry you've been having so much trouble. If you're unable to leave the house, you make want to seek help!
I understand that your concern is real. You're not alone. Please feel free to PM me!
Wishing you the best! Please let us know how things are going! |
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Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:43 pm |
| SkinCareJunkie wrote: |
I'm sure you meant well hotdocgirl, but telling someone with a mental illness like BDD to "get over themselves" isn't the answer.
To the OP:
I really hate to diagnose people online, but it sounds like you may have BDD. I'm sorry you've been having so much trouble. If you're unable to leave the house, you make want to seek help!
I understand that your concern is real. You're not alone. Please feel free to PM me!
Wishing you the best! Please let us know how things are going! |
I agree. That's like telling a suicidal person they are being selfish. That kind of mental difficulty is way more complex than that.
BDD is a mental illness related to OCD. OCD people by nature can't just "get over themselves." It's compulsive behavior and the causes are complex. It's certainly not the OP's fault. He probably will need to seek some form of help. Recognizing what the problem is = the first step, and I hope I helped in that regard. |
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Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:48 pm |
| What do you use for shaving cream? If you Barbasol then that is the cause of the turkey neck because it contains SLS or Sodium Lauryl Sulfate. There may be other brands that use it also. Check the bottle for it. It caused my turkey neck after about a year of using it but i am a lot older than you. It is very damaging to your skin and is in all kinds of products. |
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Sun Dec 29, 2013 8:08 pm |
| hotdocgirl wrote: |
Young man.. no offense..but get over yourself.
Volunteer at a charity or help out someone in need. Take your total focus off your physical being and you might feel a thing called "happiness."
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I understand what you're trying to say and I'm aware that ageing eventually becomes an inevitable part of life. I know I have quite a few mental problems regarding my image and know I should see someone about them, but telling me to "get over myself" isn't the right away of saying what you're trying to say. I'm not purposely obsessing about these premature signs of ageing, and it's something I constantly try to force myself to stop focusing on, but I know once I start living a healthier lifestyle, I'll have a different attitude towards it all. I was simply posting here in the hopes that people who have more experience with skin ageing could give me some tips on what might help tighten my skin and get it to a healthier state. I don't feel like that's being selfish. |
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Sun Dec 29, 2013 11:06 pm |
I totally agree! That comment should never have been made. I think the others are just trying to help you understand that you are you re own worst critic. What you think looks terrible on you can become magnified and you think everyone's looking at you or your perceived flaw. When, in fact, they don't see what you see. They truly aren't seeing the flaw,in this case, your neck, as you think they are!
However, you may want to try some light neck exercises (you can find them on Youtube). It might make you feel better. As you can see by searching on this forum, neck exercises have worked wonders for a lot of people on here! Sometimes, if you do something physical it may help you feel better about how you look. You ll feel more in control. You re only 21, don't overdo it! |
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Mon Dec 30, 2013 7:40 am |
| 296091lwj wrote: |
| hotdocgirl wrote: |
Young man.. no offense..but get over yourself.
Volunteer at a charity or help out someone in need. Take your total focus off your physical being and you might feel a thing called "happiness."
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I understand what you're trying to say and I'm aware that ageing eventually becomes an inevitable part of life. I know I have quite a few mental problems regarding my image and know I should see someone about them, but telling me to "get over myself" isn't the right away of saying what you're trying to say. I'm not purposely obsessing about these premature signs of ageing, and it's something I constantly try to force myself to stop focusing on, but I know once I start living a healthier lifestyle, I'll have a different attitude towards it all. I was simply posting here in the hopes that people who have more experience with skin ageing could give me some tips on what might help tighten my skin and get it to a healthier state. I don't feel like that's being selfish. |
It's not being selfish at all. Everyone here is worried about some aspect of their appearance, let's "face" it. (pun intended? haha.)
I hope I wasn't too direct in addressing your post. I just really wanted to help, and I definitely see clear signs of BDD. The BDD is going to be way more of a problem for you than any loose skin on your neck. I'm not saying not to take care of your skin and do things to tighten it up (and if you search on here you will undoubtedly find many ways to improve your skin health and appearance), but to also make sure to
check and address your attitudes and feelings towards your appearance. |
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Mon Dec 30, 2013 6:15 pm |
| bellabambiiina wrote: |
It's not being selfish at all. Everyone here is worried about some aspect of their appearance, let's "face" it. (pun intended? haha.)
I hope I wasn't too direct in addressing your post. I just really wanted to help, and I definitely see clear signs of BDD. The BDD is going to be way more of a problem for you than any loose skin on your neck. I'm not saying not to take care of your skin and do things to tighten it up (and if you search on here you will undoubtedly find many ways to improve your skin health and appearance), but to also make sure to
check and address your attitudes and feelings towards your appearance. |
You did help, don't worry about being too direct. I've known for years that I've had a terrible self image, even before this perceived "turkey-neck" became noticeable. Ever since I lost the weight years ago, I've wanted to undergo a long-term health kick that'll improve the health of my skin, but I'm really self-destrutive and always end up going in the other direction. I know in the long run, my mental health will benefit from seeing someone about BDD, but I also know, in the short-term, there's a lot I can do to improve my skin, and that's why I came to this forum. Thank you for the kind words. |
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Mon Dec 30, 2013 8:15 pm |
| 296091lwj wrote: |
| bellabambiiina wrote: |
It's not being selfish at all. Everyone here is worried about some aspect of their appearance, let's "face" it. (pun intended? haha.)
I hope I wasn't too direct in addressing your post. I just really wanted to help, and I definitely see clear signs of BDD. The BDD is going to be way more of a problem for you than any loose skin on your neck. I'm not saying not to take care of your skin and do things to tighten it up (and if you search on here you will undoubtedly find many ways to improve your skin health and appearance), but to also make sure to
check and address your attitudes and feelings towards your appearance. |
You did help, don't worry about being too direct. I've known for years that I've had a terrible self image, even before this perceived "turkey-neck" became noticeable. Ever since I lost the weight years ago, I've wanted to undergo a long-term health kick that'll improve the health of my skin, but I'm really self-destrutive and always end up going in the other direction. I know in the long run, my mental health will benefit from seeing someone about BDD, but I also know, in the short-term, there's a lot I can do to improve my skin, and that's why I came to this forum. Thank you for the kind words. |
I really hope you can see that it's the overall picture of you that is important. And it sounds to me like you have a LOT going for you. Look at the best parts of yourself and focus on that. Get yourself out into the world and find out what other people think. I am willing to bet you'll be pleasantly surprised. |
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Thu Mar 06, 2014 1:47 am |
I felt compelled to do an update, in case anyone somehow sees it. My situation has improved to the point where I genuinely can't believe my eyes.
About six or seven weeks ago, I decided to fully commit to my health regime, and built my self a nutritional plan like no diet I've ever had before.
Every day I take a number of supplements. A Vitamin B Complex, three potent Vitamin C's, two Vitamin E's, two Zinc, and recently I've also been taking three Silica tablets a day.
My diet has consisted of green smoothies (a banana, green grapes, spinach, kale, protein powder, half an avocado, three egg whites, one egg yoke, coconut water), and lots and lots of protein-rich meals (like chicken burgers, baked salmon, etc). Also, lots of tomatoes (for the lycopene). And I snack on a trail mix of pumpkin seeds, flax seeds, sunflower seeds, hemp seeds, walnuts, and pine nuts, but make it tasty by adding crushed-up sesame seed honey snaps.
My diet for the last couple of years had been appalling. I'd make a big fresh juice once in a while and consider myself healthy, but for the rest of the time I'd either eat very little (and not nutrient-rich stuff), or eat trash. I smoked a lot too which I've cut down probably 60%.
Like I said, I'm so shocked at how quickly it's all fixed up my skin, considering I was worried at first it wouldn't even make a difference. I started noticing my nasolabial lines getting softer and my cheeks feeling smoother a couple of weeks ago, and it's improved DAY BY DAY since then. I have very faint outlines of crows feet, and a few months ago when I'd smile they'd crease very deeply, now they barely change when I smile. My cheeks have lifted, my lower face is much slimmer, and my cheekbones are a lot fuller. My nasolabial lines, which used to be noticeable in every lighting, are now ALMOST gone (I give it another week). I had fillers in the lines a couple of years ago (after losing 25kg), and in only two months, my diet has improved my skin above and beyond what the fillers tried to fix back then.
All of this has resulted in my "turkey neck" (the thing that started this whole thread) noticeably lifting and tightening. The platysmal bands are still noticeable in certain light but I think they're almost back to how they were a year ago before I took a turn for the worse, and I'm sure my neck can only look better and better if it's only been two months.
This has completely changed my mental outlook compared to three months ago when I thought my skin situation was so horrible that my life would never be as happy again (pretty unhealthy mental state, I know). I feel the opposite now. Maybe my skins only responded SO quickly to the diet because I'm still 21, but of course it's still going to have the same effects EVENTUALLY, the older you get. All in all, if you want better skin, IT IS ALL ABOUT NUTRITION, and seeing results makes it so easy to stick with it. |
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Thu Mar 06, 2014 7:45 am |
Great news!
The fact that you are 21 means your skin (and body) responds so fast to positive (and negative) changes. Lucky you, it inspires you to keep at it and not give up. YAHOOO! |
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Thu Mar 06, 2014 8:46 am |
Amazing!
I am so jealous that your skin turned around so fast, wish that mine could at my age, haha.
When your body is lacking in nutrients that also affect your mental health, it is definitely a ripple effect. Good for you for getting it all together and making the changes.
Please keep up the positive vibes and thanks for the update. Very inspiring! |
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Joined the 50 club several years back, blonde w/ fair/sensitive skin, Texas humidity and prone to rosacea, light breakouts and sunburns, combo skin type, starting to see sundamage and fine lines |
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