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Mon Jan 13, 2014 7:36 pm |
I am mid 30's and I don't feel that my facial sagging is to awful just yet, probably most people wouldn't register it conciously, but I see it and to be fair I've always had a bit of facial asymetry. Oddly enough I would say I have slightly more lines on my right side which is probably my dominant side, that a chew on more and sleep on but over all it looks better more toned and better skin texture. I don't drive so its not due to uneven sun exposure.
I'd like to address this if possible but unsure how. Facial massage, facial exercise would these help? I think they would but how would I approch such a thing, should I just treat both sides and know hope they even up in time or is it better to do slightly more with the weak side to balance it out? |
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Mon Jan 13, 2014 8:29 pm |
Treating both sides equally with face exercises would be what *I* would do because IMO the muscles that are in good tone will just maintain it and those lagging behind will continue to tone up until they catch up, and eventually all will be at the same level.
Here's what CFF Carolyn told someone who had a similar question: http://www.carolynsfacialfitness.com/kim-m |
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Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:15 am |
I think both massage and exercises can and would help you for sure. We are our own worst critics so often what we see doesn’t even register with others but I know its discomforting when you see changes that you dislike and have been there myself. I would also suggest emailing or asking program creators for their views too. A lot of them are about and answer emails – Carole Maggio, Carolyn Cleaves, Gary (Happy Face Yoga), Rose Trans etc are all worthwhile emailing to and can advise and you have forums too like that of shapeyourface.com and flexeffect.com too you can ask and the trainers there will answer. |
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Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:16 pm |
Over time people's faces tend to become asymmetrical due to repeated expressions. Notice Harrison Ford's face. Even his nose leans to one side now after decades of smiling on one side more than another. I've noticed similar with my face.
For some reason I can't post links any more so google Harrison Ford. |
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Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:21 pm |
You probably have a very mild form of facial scoliosis. I have it too so the things you are describing make a lot of sense to me. Chiropractors and Osteopaths claim that they can untwist the face with their cranio-sacral release technique but in my opinion the most profound technique for addressing this issue is NeuroCranialRestructuring.
Hope this helps. |
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Tue Jan 14, 2014 4:04 pm |
I have exactly the same eye thing as Christy Turlington, maybe I should stop worrying about it. If it looks good on supermodels . . .
I also have a face that sags on one side only, something which has been largely corrected by Tua Trend and facial exercises. I took before and after pictures for the first 10 week period and the results were impressive.
I would urge you to try facial exercise to balance your face, there are a few other perks like having your lips plump up, too. |
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Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:22 pm |
pandora77 wrote: |
I am mid 30's and I don't feel that my facial sagging is to awful just yet, probably most people wouldn't register it conciously, but I see it and to be fair I've always had a bit of facial asymetry. Oddly enough I would say I have slightly more lines on my right side which is probably my dominant side, that a chew on more and sleep on but over all it looks better more toned and better skin texture. I don't drive so its not due to uneven sun exposure.
I'd like to address this if possible but unsure how. Facial massage, facial exercise would these help? I think they would but how would I approch such a thing, should I just treat both sides and know hope they even up in time or is it better to do slightly more with the weak side to balance it out? |
Pandora - While facial asymetry is not unsual, it's definitely worse when you sleep on your face. Facial asymetry and wrinkles are definitely a by-product of side sleeping or stomach sleeping. It's only natural that your dominant side will have more fine lines. But we cannot be *certain* that we aren't sleeping on both sides. I would say to facial exercises will help correct this as well as incorporating some type of facial massage... The skin can firm up nicely doing this especially at your young age. But the best way to avoid asymetry from side/back sleeping is to try to train yourself to sleep on your back, because trust me, eventually those sleep wrinkles will become permanent wrinkles... There's just no gettin around that, especially as we age and the skin loses collagen and elastin! Trust me, I KNOW!! I'm right-handed and my right side is much worse than my left! Special pillows might help, as well as placing pillows under your knees to avoid stress on your back. HTH, Aprile |
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Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:39 pm |
Hi Pandora
I personally think it has to do with your facial bone structure. I’ve seen photos where they take one side of a persons face and make the other side look exactly the same. They look completely different than their actual face. I can’t think of any reason why you couldn’t build one area up more than the other. No reason not to try. |
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Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:52 pm |
Abigail* wrote: |
Hi Pandora
I personally think it has to do with your facial bone structure. I’ve seen photos where they take one side of a persons face and make the other side look exactly the same. They look completely different than their actual face. I can’t think of any reason why you couldn’t build one area up more than the other. No reason not to try. |
The reason that would be a bad idea is because it would be very similar to spot training. Oftentimes, why our face looks a certain way may have nothing whatsever to do with the muscles in the area with the problem so how would you know that what you are doing will address the problem? Just read through face exercise threads and you will see what little joy people get from working one side more than the other.
I am yet to see anyone who got good results from trying to exercise more on one side to try to match the other side. In fact, since loose muscles tend to be weaker, you may end up causing more problems trying to work them harder instead of allowing them to strengthen at a steady pace. Really if you think about it, what do you have to lose just doing the same things to both sides? Once your face achieves tone, it stays there if you continue exercising. In other words, maintenance happens. So the stronger side which may achieve tone faster will just reach what people call a plateau. And in the meantime, the weak side catches up.
And BTW, people act like a plateau is a bad thing. IMO the plateau is when your face is pretty well toned and looks better than previously. What I find is, even without changing anything in my program, something magical continues to happen after I hit a plateau and what I thought was pretty good seems to get a youth jump down the road and things look so much better than that pretty good stage I was so thrilled with. After all, the idea is to look the best at whatever age you are not to keep changing your face into something it is not. |
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Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:13 am |
Totally agree with your post Nonie. It's really NOT a good idea to spot train. *Maybe* if someone were very young and really didn't need FE and just wanted to improve their nose or lips, they could just do lip and nose exercises. But I think when it comes to the rest of the face, particularly when you are trying to restore, create more symmetry, you would be doing yourself a disservice to spot train. |
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Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:32 am |
Thank you all for the detailed information it all makes sense. Weirdly I think my right side has more fine lines but the left is more saggy.I guess this is because the right side has better muscle tone because it does more, the down side of course is more lines but on balance the sag on the left side bothers me more. l have been trying some light massage this week and it seems to be helping with skin tone. I will start with some basic facial exercise next week. I have Danielle Collins Yoga Face lift and Ageless if you dare so will use one of them initially.Also interested in flexeffect and Yumma ball.
I do think that a certain amount of asymmetry is normal but getting older seems to show it up. I wonder if this might be why those who take up regular facial exercise feel they become better looking, because it makes them more symmetrical?
Thank you again to all who replied, its been really helpful to me. |
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Sat Jan 18, 2014 11:36 am |
pandora77 wrote: |
Thank you all for the detailed information it all makes sense. Weirdly I think my right side has more fine lines but the left is more saggy.I guess this is because the right side has better muscle tone because it does more, the down side of course is more lines but on balance the sag on the left side bothers me more. l have been trying some light massage this week and it seems to be helping with skin tone. I will start with some basic facial exercise next week. I have Danielle Collins Yoga Face lift and Ageless if you dare so will use one of them initially.Also interested in flexeffect and Yumma ball.
I do think that a certain amount of asymmetry is normal but getting older seems to show it up. I wonder if this might be why those who take up regular facial exercise feel they become better looking, because it makes them more symmetrical?
Thank you again to all who replied, its been really helpful to me. |
Definitely Pandora - I can see your point. Many older women who have wrinkles still look beautiful especially if their faces have more fullness and lift. So the wrinkles don't seem so bad! Lol. But IMO there are only a few fortunate ones who can maintain a thin youthful looking body, while maintaining a full face in their 40s, 50s and beyond. Women who are a little heavier *usually* have fuller faces and look younger.
Most people are asymmetrical to some degree. BUT, like you mentioned, when we are younger, it doesn't seem as apparent. The reason for this is as we age, we lose collagen and elasticity, and as a result fullness. Fullness hides a lot of things, including fine lines and wrinkles!! But the good news is there things you can do. Facial exercise combined with massage is one. I know that Carolyn Cleeve's program incorporates both. Microcurrent is also wonderful for lifting the face, creating fullness and restoring symmetry. The reason its easier to work on asymmetry with mc is you can do longer *holds* on the side of the face that needs more correcting. For instance, my left eye sags more than my right. Therefore, I do longer holds to even things out! I feel this is much harder to do with facial exercise especially in my situation. I was using the Facercise Program and the eye exercises couldn't create more lift on the one side. So that's where microcurrent came to the rescue! Hope this makes sense.
Btw, I have the Pico Toner and purchased the probes which makes it even easier to lift the eye area. I feel the probe tips direct the current better where I want it for longer holds and lift. Although it can be achieved using the gloves, but because the current is spread throughout the gloves, you would just need longer hold times.
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Aprile |
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