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Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:54 pm      Reply with quote
Hi,

I saw a video by Dr. Obagi and read articles by a few derms who recommended patting and slapping skin to cause minor injury and new collagen to form. Have also read that the smoother and plumper skin from slapping is just inflammation, which is ultimately aging and damaging to the skin.

I've been slapping my face skin for a month and it is noticeably tighter and plumper.

Does anyone have any scientific input on if this method is helpful or hurtful?

Thanks!

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Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:39 pm      Reply with quote
I can't imagine giving your face some pats is enough to stimulate collagen production.

I am inclined to believe that creating friction (as in the skindetox massage) or the pinching motions we've seen in some facial exercise vids and you tube vids are more likely to stimulate fibroblasts than slapping.
I don't have studies to share, but visually I have noticed positive change in the person who designed the skin detox movements and others who have extensively used the more aggressive movements in facial exercise (like pinching and some facial pressure.

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Wed Feb 12, 2014 12:40 am      Reply with quote
sister sweets wrote:
I can't imagine giving your face some pats is enough to stimulate collagen production.

I am inclined to believe that creating friction (as in the skindetox massage) or the pinching motions we've seen in some facial exercise vids and you tube vids are more likely to stimulate fibroblasts than slapping.
I don't have studies to share, but visually I have noticed positive change in the person who designed the skin detox movements and others who have extensively used the more aggressive movements in facial exercise (like pinching and some facial pressure.


Thanks sister sweets. Do you think slapping is harmful at all - that is what I am mostly worried about. I do enjoy the added blood circulation and think that must be beneficial. Just don't want to be causing any damage.

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Wed Feb 12, 2014 11:55 am      Reply with quote
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You can try the slap bath.
After you finish a cold shower you try to slap your whole body and face till dry.No towel.
It brings the blood to the surface.

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Sat Feb 22, 2014 4:27 pm      Reply with quote
I know that Deb Crowley, founder of he FlexEffect facial resistance training program, recommends tapping the face to improve circulation and destress the area after exercise. I believe her inspiration was the slapping of the forearm that is done in martial arts, which she found to be very effective at toning the muscles. HTH Smile

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Sat Feb 22, 2014 8:23 pm      Reply with quote
cm5597 wrote:
I know that Deb Crowley, founder of he FlexEffect facial resistance training program, recommends tapping the face to improve circulation and destress the area after exercise. I believe her inspiration was the slapping of the forearm that is done in martial arts, which she found to be very effective at toning the muscles. HTH Smile


Thanks cm5597, that's interesting to know!

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Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:20 pm      Reply with quote
I went to an amazing esthetician in the Twin Cities last year and she told me to lightly tap my face all over with my fingertips to "strengthen" the skin. I love it and do it daily.

I think bringing circulation to the skin brings nutrients (so eating well helps with this, of course) and the impact/challenge/pressure against the skin probably does stimulate and strengthen it.

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Sat Mar 08, 2014 9:24 pm      Reply with quote
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I went to an amazing esthetician in the Twin Cities last year and she told me to lightly tap my face all over with my fingertips to "strengthen" the skin. I love it and do it daily.

I think bringing circulation to the skin brings nutrients (so eating well helps with this, of course) and the impact/challenge/pressure against the skin probably does stimulate and strengthen it.


How long do you slap your face? TIA

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Sun Mar 09, 2014 9:18 pm      Reply with quote
http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/face-slapping-thai-beauty-treatment-fix-wrinkles-article-1.1191100

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Mon Mar 10, 2014 9:28 pm      Reply with quote
Not too long-- usually under a minute; just long enough to "tap in" a product all over. BUT after reading that Thai massage article, I might get more serious!

On a side note, I also tap in a pattern that I think promotes lymphatic drainage--- up and out.

And I do a much harder, using top of my hand slap/tapping of my under chin area around my jaw bone--- that's just a little something I added extra, but I figure it cant hurt and might help with lymphatic drainage (seeing as the Japanese facials focus so much on this area)

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Thought I'd give an update on results from slapping my face, neck and hands. I've been slapping (more than tapping but not a Thai-face-slap) for three months now and my skin is plumper and more taut. I have pre-existing broken capillaries on one cheek and they haven't worsened.

I usually apply all my AM skincare and, before sunscreen, I rub my fingertips with a few drops of oil so there is no friction on the skin and then slap away. I slap my neck with the back of my hands so my hands and fingers get some treatment too.

I finish with some light massaging - pressing my knuckles under cheekbones towards ears and then down the side of the neck to reduce puffiness in the lower face.

Hope this helps someone!

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