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Polyester Girl
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Sat Mar 01, 2014 2:04 am |
I have been reading about Dermarollers for my slight (but noticeable) depressed acne scars on my cheeks and some sites say that 1mm is enough to stimulate collegen, while some people say 1.5mm is needed. I really don't want to start out using 1.5mm since I'm already afraid of the 1mm for my first time, but if the 1mm doesn't even address my problem then I'll have to.
Do any of you know if 1mmis enough to treat my scars? Any help would be appreciated, especially from someone who has experienced any improvement in their pitted scars using a 1mm.
I am planning to use to roller very minimally at 5-6 weeks apart and have been doing research on the proper way to roll (lifting the roller up after every motion), but when cleaning it do I really need this 70% alcohol stuff? Can I just wash it in dishwashing liquid?
Thanks for your time. I'm really depressed about this and don't want to live with these scars forever. I don't expect a 100% miracle where they are completely gone but any improvement would mean a lot to boost my self confidence.
PS: I'm 20 years old, if that's important. |
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Sat Mar 01, 2014 7:09 am |
Actually, a 0.5 mm will be sufficient, so you may not want to press down as hard. One important aspect is to prep the skin about 30 days prior to your roll with Environ C-Quence, trying to use the highest level you can tolerate (whichmeans working your way up, which take time).
Having the concentrated repair factors available in the skin for remodeling the scars is paramount and will make the difference between a fair result and a good result. |
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Sat Mar 01, 2014 9:41 am |
There is a MASSIVE thread on Dermarolling that this should have been posted on instead of here. I don't believe a 0.5mm is sufficient. Most others don't either. A 1.0mm is fine. Work up to a 1.5mm if you wish. A Dermastamp and or a single needle would be another option for scars. Yes the 70% alcohol is an important step in cleaning IMO. Just stick to the guidelines in this link and you will be just fine. http://dermaroller.owndoc.com/dermaroller-instructions.pdf |
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Sat Mar 01, 2014 12:00 pm |
Just to add, while Dr. Fernandes recommends 1.0mm, Dr. Setterfield, who has done more recent research on dermarolling/needling, did find that .5mm produces similar results to that of the 1.0mm. |
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Polyester Girl
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Sat Mar 01, 2014 4:28 pm |
Sorry Pandax, I am very new to these forums and don't know my way around very well. I will be sure to take a look there though.
Ethel, thank you for the info. I'll stick to the 1mm just to be safe. It might hurt more but any physical pain is better than the constant emotional pain these scars bring me. However, the Environ C-Quence looks too expensive for me. I think I'll just have to apply the old fashioned rosehip oil or vitamin E. But as long as the needles are encouraging collagen by tricking the body, that is the main thing that will help, right? |
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Sat Mar 01, 2014 4:48 pm |
Don't skimp on the topical vitamin prep if you want good results. Your skin needs a reserve in order to respond to the needling at an optimal rate. Better to save up for the Environ and do the needling later. Environ has very high potency vitamin A & C, certainly Rosehip Oil and topical Vitamin E cannot compare. Vitamin A is the key necessity, in high potency. By the way, I know from first hand experience that needling combined with Environ C-Quence works...and works well.
If you're going to do this, save up and wait until you can do it right, for best results.
Also, to clarify, my point was that recent studies have shown that a 1mm needle will NOT produce results better than .5 mm needle length. |
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Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:16 am |
I wouldn't use Vitamin E, as studies have shown it can actually worsen scarring. There was good results here from someone, I can't remember who, with dermarolling and acne scarring. She went aggressive and didn't roll any more frequently than 2 months. The women here have done good work with research on inflammation, and I believe that the evidence shows that in order to not disrupt collagen remodeling, and to avoid constant inflammation, you should wait at least a couple months between aggressive rolls. I would start off less aggressive just to make sure you don't have adverse reactions though. Good luck! |
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