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Has anyone used Botox/Juvederm for many years?

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blissedthistle
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Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:20 am      Reply with quote
I got botox done yesterday on my jaw to slim it down & help with my TMJ and grinding, and I have gotten a tiny bit of Juvederm done today on my nasolabial folds. I am very happy with the results, and I would like to continue these two treatments long-term, for like the next 40 years or so because I like the looks of these & hopefully it will prevent wrinkles & wear-and-tear of the teeth/jaws.

I am only 21 and I hear of most people starting Botox/fillers in their mid-30's, but I am wondering if there is anyone on this board who has been using these type of fillers for years. Were there any problems that began to form with your skin due to constant use of these products? I heard that Juvederm and other fillers "stretch" skin out and actually make the skin more wrinkly in the long run, but I also heard the opposite, such as the skin learning to produce more collagen in the area in the long term.

Did you wish you started earlier, or saved it for a later age? I would like to hear your stories!
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Thu Jul 31, 2014 6:48 am      Reply with quote
I started with botox about 12 years ago and fillers about 8.
They have been very positive and I dont have it or need it often.
I now can go 12 months or so between botox for my 11's and a tiny bit in my jaw for grinding (2 small spots) and it has been maybe 3 years on the fillers. I might have the juvaderm done again in the next year or 2 depending on how much is needed.
It bonded very well with my collagen.

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Thu Jul 31, 2014 7:18 am      Reply with quote
Like Annie, I have found that over the years my need for botox has decreased, possibly because I no longer make those habitual contractions that result in wrinkles. I have used it for 15 years now.

There is evidence that fillers like juvederm do increase collagen production in the skin. You may also notice that your skin holds more water and actually looks moisturized.

Lucky girl, these days you can decide how much and when you might like to age.
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Thu Jul 31, 2014 9:00 am      Reply with quote
Please be careful with botox for TMJ. I also have tmj and asked my dr about different options. She said she does do botox to the jaw on the odd occasion, but always informs patients that she does not recommend it as long-term it causes sagging in the lower cheek/jaw area.
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Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:41 am      Reply with quote
I am hoping that the botox/juvederm helps with my bad habits too. I am not a smoker but I have a really bad habit of biting the side of my mouth. Ugh! And hopefully botox will help my jaws not to grind so much.

goodbyekitty, how would it cause sagging? I thought sagging was due to loose skin and not the muscle? Wouldn't starting when I am young actually prevent sagging in the later years?

Also just a question for everyone... I know I got the Juvederm just yesterday but I feel like my face is asymmetrical. The part above my right nasolabial fold seems puffier and even feels swollen compared to the left which seems perfectly fine. Should I just wait 1-3 days until it settles down and then contact them if it still looks asymmetrical, or should I visit the med spa 2-3 weeks later like recommended on their site? I feel like it might be too late by then? When I was getting Juvederm, the right side definitely hurt a bit more.
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Thu Jul 31, 2014 7:18 pm      Reply with quote
I started getting Restylane in my marionette lines (mouth to chin lines) since I was 35. I'm now 44 and stopped doing Restylane 2 years ago because the Plastic surgeon over filled the area. I am now left with deep creases on each side of my mouth and there's no way to get rid of them! What I thought was bad almost 10 years ago probably wasn't that bad but I believe getting Restylane for so many years caused these creases and made things much, much worse. In addition, I ve recently found out that fillers like Restylane and Juvederm can cause long term health problems as it is not as natural as PS and FDA tell you it is! Be careful!
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Thu Jul 31, 2014 7:33 pm      Reply with quote
blissedthistle wrote:
I am hoping that the botox/juvederm helps with my bad habits too. I am not a smoker but I have a really bad habit of biting the side of my mouth. Ugh! And hopefully botox will help my jaws not to grind so much.

goodbyekitty, how would it cause sagging? I thought sagging was due to loose skin and not the muscle? Wouldn't starting when I am young actually prevent sagging in the later years?

Also just a question for everyone... I know I got the Juvederm just yesterday but I feel like my face is asymmetrical. The part above my right nasolabial fold seems puffier and even feels swollen compared to the left which seems perfectly fine. Should I just wait 1-3 days until it settles down and then contact them if it still looks asymmetrical, or should I visit the med spa 2-3 weeks later like recommended on their site? I feel like it might be too late by then? When I was getting Juvederm, the right side definitely hurt a bit more.


I will "almost" guarantee you this is just the swelling process. Please wait a few days before you worry.

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Fri Aug 01, 2014 6:39 am      Reply with quote
I too started down the botox route in the mid twoties. I had severe frown lines that had developed into permanent twos. I looked cross all the time! For sure I wish I had started earlier - I cannot even look at pictures of me in my late thirties early forties. Without doubt, I only need top ups twice a year now as opposed to every 3 months.

I began the fillers a few years later for my nas-labial lines, nose to mouth, and completely got rid of the hang dog look, it was a miracle! If this stuff had been around earlier, I may have snagged myself a better husband!

In truth though, there is no way I could have afforded it back then.

In all these years, only once did I get the 'droopy eye', and once overfilled my lips for the puffer fish look. It goes down....
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Fri Aug 01, 2014 7:30 am      Reply with quote
I have not had any sagging at all with my jaw/clenching botox, but it get it done very sparingly.
Best thing I ever did, since it stopped those headaches I got from it.

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Sun Aug 03, 2014 11:25 am      Reply with quote
Ollie that is unfortunate. Do you think once you start Restylane, your skin got "dependent" on it?

AnnieR, how often do you get it done? I am thinking of getting it done again in 4-6 months, then a year. I heard that the more you do it the less you need. I had 30 unit on each side.

I am thinking of getting Juvederm on my lips, now that my live-in boyfriend will be gone for a week. Razz

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Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:51 am      Reply with quote
Once a year was the norm for a few years. Right now, I have not had it in the jaw area for about 2 and a half years. I know when I need it bc I wake up with a tension headache and sore jaw muscles from clenching and I haven't had that in a long time!
We were going to treat my son with it for severe grinding but he went for acupuncture instead and he no longer grinds. Took several sessions of it but it worked!
Once you retrain those muscles, you will need it less and less and then maybe not at all.
I am wanting to go back and touch up the juvaderm in my nasolabials in a few months but I haven't had to do that in quite a few years either.

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Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:32 pm      Reply with quote
Ugh I don't know if I am imagining it but I think my nasolabial folds became more prominent after Juvederm. And some places are still bumpy after 5 days. Maybe it's just because it's swollen, idk. Maybe I am just paying too much attention to it when I haven't before. *pulls hair*

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