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Mon Jun 15, 2015 11:01 am      Reply with quote
I also was lucky enough to receive one of the "good" MyMs and used it with good results for about a year. However, I just got the Derminator, and it is so much quicker to use and less painful. Where I used to go over an area 4 - 6 time, I just do a circle motion until the timer indicates treatment time is over. The timer is more useful than you may imagine. But the big difference to me is LESS TIME & LESS PAIN.

That being said, nothing wrong with the MyM when you receive one that works well, as obviously yours does. I was well pleased with mine, and I do think it was effective. When you feel like replacing your MyM, I would strongly endorse the Derminator. I received mine in Canada just about a week after ordering - to my mind tremendous customer service.
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Yes, through my research before purchasing the MyM, I found a lot of people who had the red plastic model had variances, some worked great with the needles going up and down, some had needles that just vibrated or buzzed, some didnt have enough power. I purchased the metal pen (I know there are several different knock offs), with the dial power, so I do think this particular model is more powerful with higher speeds and a more sturdy construction. I was going to get the red/white plastic model, but noticed people complaining of various problems.

I did return it to Amazon because I didn't like the occasional drag and didn't want to use the machine long term however after looking at my results, I change my mind about it a little. I still absolutely want a derminator and will get one, but since the MyM costs 1/4th the cost of the derminator, I have to say it's a decent machine.
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Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:52 pm      Reply with quote
I think what the derminator has over the mym and others is precision (computer controlled, design incorporating the magnet, digital readout, timer, needles that penetrate to true length). The mym and other countless needle pens can for the most part do a decent job but the derminator does it with precision thus creating less pain, taking less time and producing better results faster.
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Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:08 am      Reply with quote
Am I dreaming or is the derminator still in stock the day after going on sale again? Crazy! They're usually gone within 8-10 hours. Well this is good, this will allow them to stock up a little. And I got my state return back so maybe I will order today, ha!
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Tue Jun 16, 2015 5:37 pm      Reply with quote
I'm sort of toying with the idea of ordering one, quick question, shipping is advertised as free, how come at checkout it's charging me $7.00? Last week when I had in my cart, I made it to check out (didnt order lol) and shipping said $0.00, is there a reason for this?

EDIT: Weird, so before I had it shipping to my work, which is what my billing address is on my CC, but now changed it to my home for shipping and work for billing, and it's free now. Hmm, makes no sense!

Oh, I see it says free shipping to MOST US addresses, that's strange that just 8 miles away its not free anymore, maybe because it's an office building? Either way, strange but not a big deal!
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Wed Jun 17, 2015 3:33 pm      Reply with quote
EC413 wrote:

Oh, I see it says free shipping to MOST US addresses, that's strange that just 8 miles away its not free anymore, maybe because it's an office building? Either way, strange but not a big deal!


No doubt that is why - because it is a commercial building and not residential.

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Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:30 pm      Reply with quote
I GOT MY DERMINATOR TODAY! I am so excited to try it. Some advice please?

Will ice work as well as a numbing cream, and if not, where can I get some?

Also, looking for a good hyaluronic acid and a vitamin A serum. Any recommendations?

Thanks so much and I will report my results!!
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Thu Jun 18, 2015 5:00 am      Reply with quote
Does anyone use a camouflage make up of any kind after treatment with the Derminator? If so, can you please let me know which one?
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Thu Jun 18, 2015 9:01 am      Reply with quote
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Does anyone use a camouflage make up of any kind after treatment with the Derminator? If so, can you please let me know which one?


Next day only, mineral based makeup.

I use PC Barely There Tinted moisturizer.

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Tonight I did my first dermarolling session. I used 1mm on my face, neck, and chest and 2.5 on my upper inner arms. I am red red red but love it. I used Mad Hippie Hyaluronic acid before and after. I started using ice but then just did it without. A numbing cream would definitely make it more tolerable and I would be able to go with deeper needles.

Does anyone know how to long I can use the same needles before tossing them?

So excited to see what results I get in the coming month!
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Fri Jun 19, 2015 11:23 am      Reply with quote
Guys, please share what actives you use with derma rolling!

I use fawnie HA serum and/or her Copper Peptide serum.

Any other ideas on what else I can use?

Thank you!

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Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:17 pm      Reply with quote
RussianSunshine wrote:
Guys, please share what actives you use with derma rolling!

I use fawnie HA serum and/or her Copper Peptide serum.

Any other ideas on what else I can use?

Thank you!


I use homemade HA serum. I'm toying with the idea of getting some microneedling serum I saw on ebay for hyperpigmentation but I'm still concentrating on the area around my mouth.

Tonight I did a very thorough treatment around the mouth. First I used the single needle on individual lines. This was not uncomfortable; I was well numbed with EMLA. But when I switched to the 9 needle cartridge, same depth, it was uncomfortable, but not unbearable. Now that the numbing cream is wearing off my skin feels very tight and tender.

Tomorrow I'll do the rest of my face using a .5 or .75 depth and homemade vitamin C serum after.

I think it's worth the trouble to make your own serums. I make my own vitamin C and HA serums for pennies. But I still want to try some of those serums I saw on ebay, I'll see if I can't find them again...

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Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:20 pm      Reply with quote
wrinklefreeforever wrote:
Tonight I did my first dermarolling session. I used 1mm on my face, neck, and chest and 2.5 on my upper inner arms. I am red red red but love it. I used Mad Hippie Hyaluronic acid before and after. I started using ice but then just did it without. A numbing cream would definitely make it more tolerable and I would be able to go with deeper needles.

Does anyone know how to long I can use the same needles before tossing them?

So excited to see what results I get in the coming month!


You should see if your doctor will prescribe EMLA, mine did and my insurance paid for it. A lot cheaper than buying it at inhouse pharmacy! If you don't have insurance you can get it filled at Walmart for very cheap. It's worth it, I'm a big baby when it comes to pain!

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Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:25 pm      Reply with quote
Found the serums, or the same type as I saw before. I want to try the tranexamic acid one after using a .75 or 1.0 on my spots. There are lots of different kinds.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Microneedle-Treatment-Serum-Derma-Roller-Stamp-Skincare-10ml-FREE-SHIPPING-/161721659231?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item25a75caf5f

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Sat Jun 20, 2015 7:01 am      Reply with quote
Immacolata wrote:
Found the serums, or the same type as I saw before. I want to try the tranexamic acid one after using a .75 or 1.0 on my spots. There are lots of different kinds.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Microneedle-Treatment-Serum-Derma-Roller-Stamp-Skincare-10ml-FREE-SHIPPING-/161721659231?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item25a75caf5f


It's too bad that they do not disclose the exact ingredients!

There are lot of them sold on ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/271621754956?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&var=570458432830&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261399037442?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&var=560319438406&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

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Sat Jun 20, 2015 10:07 am      Reply with quote
Hello everyone. I've been lurking around like a complete creep for months, but now that I finally got my Derminator I have decided to join the discussion.

So far I have needled twice: last week I used 1.5mm single needle (medium speed) on a couple of scars(I used less depth on my nose scar) and on my horizontal forehead lines. That went rather well. The pain level was tolerable and even though there was a fair amount of bleeding, the scabs did not last long and were easy to cover with a bit of concealer.

Today I decided to repeat last week's success with a shallow needling of my whole face with a 9-needle cartridge (at just 0.25mm depth). It hurt like hell =((( I never thought I was such a wuss, but I could barely handle the pain on my forehead. I really wanted to work on my eyelids, but I just couldn't do it. Does anyone have recommendations for a numbing cream that is not as ridiculously expensive as Emla?
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Hello everyone. I've been lurking around like a complete creep for months, but now that I finally got my Derminator I have decided to join the discussion.

So far I have needled twice: last week I used 1.5mm single needle (medium speed) on a couple of scars(I used less depth on my nose scar) and on my horizontal forehead lines. That went rather well. The pain level was tolerable and even though there was a fair amount of bleeding, the scabs did not last long and were easy to cover with a bit of concealer.

Today I decided to repeat last week's success with a shallow needling of my whole face with a 9-needle cartridge (at just 0.25mm depth). It hurt like hell =((( I never thought I was such a wuss, but I could barely handle the pain on my forehead. I really wanted to work on my eyelids, but I just couldn't do it. Does anyone have recommendations for a numbing cream that is not as ridiculously expensive as Emla?


There's one called Dr. Numb but I'm not sure they make it any more. 4% is the strongest cream you can buy without a prescription. I would just search for "tattoo numbing cream" on Amazon.

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Immacolata how do you make your homemade vitamin c and hyaluronic acid serums? Also, can you make your own vitamin A serum as well?
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Immacolata how do you make your homemade vitamin c and hyaluronic acid serums? Also, can you make your own vitamin A serum as well?


Vitamin C:

1/4 tsp. Vitamin C (LAA)
1/4 tsp. propylene glycol
2 tsp. distilled water

Keep in fridge - this is more than enough for a few days but use it lavishly as it does not contain a preservative.

For the HA serum, I put distilled water in a shot glass, put about 1/4 tsp. of HA on top of it, cover it with plastic wrap and put it in the fridge. It's good to go in a few hours. Again, make it on the same day that you needle and use it up quickly as there is no preservative.

I don't know about vitamin A serum, but look in the DIY section for recipes - there are a ton of them for everything under the sun. I'm sure there's a vitamin A serum in there somewhere! Smile

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Sat Jun 20, 2015 4:19 pm      Reply with quote
Wow! Thank you!

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wrinklefreeforever wrote:
Immacolata how do you make your homemade vitamin c and hyaluronic acid serums? Also, can you make your own vitamin A serum as well?


Vitamin C:

1/4 tsp. Vitamin C (LAA)
1/4 tsp. propylene glycol
2 tsp. distilled water

Keep in fridge - this is more than enough for a few days but use it lavishly as it does not contain a preservative.

For the HA serum, I put distilled water in a shot glass, put about 1/4 tsp. of HA on top of it, cover it with plastic wrap and put it in the fridge. It's good to go in a few hours. Again, make it on the same day that you needle and use it up quickly as there is no preservative.

I don't know about vitamin A serum, but look in the DIY section for recipes - there are a ton of them for everything under the sun. I'm sure there's a vitamin A serum in there somewhere! Smile
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Sat Jun 20, 2015 4:20 pm      Reply with quote
Thanks so much! What is LAA? And where would I find the vitamin A and hyaluronic acid?
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Thanks so much! What is LAA? And where would I find the vitamin A and hyaluronic acid?


It's l-ascorbic acid, the form of vitamin C you should use. I'm not sure about the vitamin A but you can find the HA at online places like makingcosmetics.com or lotioncrafters.com - there are more than a few of these places, and the ingredients that I use a really cheap off the board. You can find all of it at Amazon.com too, just use the search.

I want to stress again that you should make these fresh if you're going to needle that day. I actually use a preservative in my HA serum but it's not necessary if you just make a small amount to use that same day. The preservative I use is Liquid Germall Plus.

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I finally got a chance to use my Derminator for the first time. I started on the backs of my hands to test the depth. As others mentioned, the Derminator is much more aggressive than hand rolling. My first run was with .25 and it drew quite a bit of blood. When I use a hand roller at that length I get no blood. I also tried .50 and that was only marginally more aggressive. I decided to try .25 on my face the first time. My forehead drew blood, but the rest of my face just got red. I used saline to help with glide but I had a fair amount of itching afterwards. Not sure if I want to use saline with a deeper length. I am considering using just plain distilled water next time. With deep needling I don't want to use any products. Any other suggestions? Overall, I am very happy with the device and the ease of use. Much faster, but not certain it is less painful. I did not use numbing cream, and it felt about the same- maybe a bit more painful on forehead.
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I can't roll LAA into my skin as it stings like crazy, even in a 5% concentration.

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I still haven't gotten my Derminator. Grrrrr! I ordered on May 30. Owndoc shipped it on June 3. I had a scheduled roll for this weekend because it was the only time I won't see people for a few weeks. I had to use my MyM. Maybe I'll have the Derminator for next time.

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