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Mon Oct 12, 2015 2:18 pm      Reply with quote
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Thanks a million Immacolata! really sweet of you.! Smile


You are very welcome! Be sure to check in now and then and let us know how it's going.

I just did my lips, upper and lower. I was EMLA'd out so I didn't feel much but damn, did I bleed! Right now I have a ring of red skin around my mouth and several redder lines where I used the single needle.

After seeing RMC's results I'm more determined than ever to stick with my regime. I'll be doing the rest of my face tonight. I find that splitting it into sections - lips, cheeks, forehead - that I do a more thorough job.

God, I love this machine and am so grateful to Sarah Vaughter. I wish she'd post here so I could thank her in person, but she tends to keep to herself. Nonetheless, Sarah, if you're reading this, THANK YOU!

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Thanks RMC7. I don't think my skin could handle as much as yours, but good to know you used Hyaluronic acid during needling at 1.5 with no adverse effects. I was using just water or saline and its was not as easy as I hoped, plus my skin was so dry because i cleansed and then used alcohol prior to needling. I need to look into antiAge and possibly TCA. What was your strength? I was considering it last year but chickened out. Don't worry about the late reply, better late than never.

I started at 12 then went to 15 . I've also used the saline, that's perfectly fine. Read how Immacolata makes her ha and vit c. I make my c the same way but now I'm going to use her method to make my ha. If you are going to try AnteAge it's really expensive just try the sample kit first, you may not care for it. It has mixed reviews. Now I'm changing my products to see what happens with my old method, when I used a roller. I always used retinA after ( wth , my face was numb!) wait an hr use my Led, copper serum, emu oil. Next day same stuff except am vit c pm dilute copperPeptide, add estriol. Then I do copper peptides 3x week. But I got to tell you all I'm loving my little Tria ! It really works on these lip lines. Hurts like hell!

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Tue Oct 13, 2015 8:42 am      Reply with quote
Medical dermarolling works without creams and stuff, but you need some kind of medium for needles to glide on the surface of your skin.

Owndoc sells a CP mask that, IMO, works even better than a HA gel, which dries out very quickly.

http://shop.owndoc.com/p-173/copper-peptide-facial-mask.html


jiidea wrote:
Alright guys.. I just got my derminator..
But Im reading about all your lotions and potions that you relentlessly put on your face .. makes me want to scream.. Im a guy... And i really dont care much about those products ..

Is it really important to use the creams and stuff? or could you just go without ? I mean .. as long as you eat healthy.. leafy greens and stuff..

Whats your opinion on that? is it truely important to use thoese serums to heal the skin ? I mean ..the skin should be able to heal it self, as long as the wounds dont stay for weeks .. like it does with cystic acne, which is what causes scared tissue..

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Tue Oct 13, 2015 11:17 am      Reply with quote
Despareately want to try it..but unfortunately they d'nt ship to India..😢😢
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Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:47 am      Reply with quote
Re. what to use as lubricant during the procedure, I just spritz on thermal water.

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Wed Oct 14, 2015 3:25 pm      Reply with quote
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Re. what to use as lubricant during the procedure, I just spritz on thermal water.


I use a hyaluronic acid and water in a spray bottle. After cleaning the skin, apply the serum. It will sink into the skin. That's ok because you will spray your skin with the water to add slip where you need it during the treatment.

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Fri Oct 16, 2015 8:39 pm      Reply with quote
Some quick questions on using the derminator: whats the pattern to glide the derminator over the skin? I heard you're supposed to do it in circular, spiral motions until you cover the entire surface area. Is this correct?

Also, are you not supposed to dermaroll with a dry face? I thought you dermaroll with a dry face, and apply serum afterwards. Do you apply serum before, and then dermaroll while the face is still wet?
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Fri Oct 16, 2015 11:23 pm      Reply with quote
I want to buy this but how come some country's models are more expensive than others?

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Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:40 am      Reply with quote
Hello everybody,

I m new here, I read all your posts (all the 19 pages) found your testimonials so interesting that they convinced me to purchase ā Derminator!

I ve been saving to do so and finally ordered it at the begining Of the week Smile yay!!

I was so happy! And excited to get this new product that will change my skin texture.
The tracking was blocked since 4 days so I decided to contact their customer service (from own doc)... A bit complicated I thought... Any way I got a reply so quickly! I was so glad intil I opened the answer! I AM SHOCKED! They answered twice : first telling me that I could get a refund (surprising as I was just asking for a delivery date) and then a second email telling me they decided to Blacklist me for NO reason!
I m so SHOCKED!

Has anyone experienced that with this website? I m so disappointed.

Curious method no??
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Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:56 am      Reply with quote
Kevin578 wrote:
Some quick questions on using the derminator: whats the pattern to glide the derminator over the skin? I heard you're supposed to do it in circular, spiral motions until you cover the entire surface area. Is this correct?

Also, are you not supposed to dermaroll with a dry face? I thought you dermaroll with a dry face, and apply serum afterwards. Do you apply serum before, and then dermaroll while the face is still wet?


You may want to put some HA serum during dermaneedling. Yes you should do circular motions.

If anyone can help me please that d be great. Its the 1st time I experience this with a company and m truly shocked! I spent almost 300$, havent received my Derminator yet but they told me they decided to blacklist me so I wont be able to ordre new cartridges... Just because I kindly asked for a delivery date. It sounds crazy!?!

If I knew, i īd never have ordered Sad
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Sat Oct 17, 2015 7:58 am      Reply with quote
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Kevin578 wrote:
Some quick questions on using the derminator: whats the pattern to glide the derminator over the skin? I heard you're supposed to do it in circular, spiral motions until you cover the entire surface area. Is this correct?

Also, are you not supposed to dermaroll with a dry face? I thought you dermaroll with a dry face, and apply serum afterwards. Do you apply serum before, and then dermaroll while the face is still wet?


You may want to put some HA serum during dermaneedling. Yes you should do circular motions.

If anyone can help me please that d be great. Its the 1st time I experience this with a company and m truly shocked! I spent almost 300$, havent received my Derminator yet but they told me they decided to blacklist me so I wont be able to ordre new cartridges... Just because I kindly asked for a delivery date. It sounds crazy!?!

If I knew, i īd never have ordered Sad


I would call or email them again to ask why they blacklisted you. Explain your situation....

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Sat Oct 17, 2015 9:00 am      Reply with quote
Thank you Xandria!

They told me I was too demanding!?! Because I dared to ask once a delivery date!

It really is crazy!

They told me they consider not shipping the country anymore... Apparently just because they dont want to waste time answering question from customers.

Thatīs scary!whatīs the point in investing 300dollars if you cant buy new cartriges later? Really you should think twice before purchasing on this website. I m deeply shocked and feel disrespected as a customer

Sad such a shame to treat customers this way. 300 $ was an investment for me. Itīs so frustrating to feel so powerless. Such a bad experience.


I think it s not even legal to blacklist a customer for no reason?this could happen to anyone.

Can someone help?
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Sat Oct 17, 2015 11:51 am      Reply with quote
SoSweet, It seems to me that you gave 2 choices: take the offered refund or have a close friend order for you in the future.

At some point in my ordering process I was informed not to contact them about shipping delays until a certain amount of time had passed (like 2 months or something like that…in the winter it is even longer, like 3 months)I think they assumed you had read their info about shipping from eastern Europe and the delays in the US postal service upon receiving the imported product. Anyway, it may well be a harsh way of doing business, but it's the way that they have chosen to do it. And imo their products are unique enough to adjust to their protocol.

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Sat Oct 17, 2015 11:52 am      Reply with quote
I meant to say you 'have' 2 choices!

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Sat Oct 17, 2015 12:53 pm      Reply with quote
Thank you very much JasmineRosey Smile

Well, I have plenty Of friends who could order for me. I was very excited and happy to get my products. This has ruined my experience online.

This product may be unique but this should not be a reason not to respect customers. To blacklist you just because you ask a delivery date is not only harsh. Itīs disrespectful. And probably not legal. There should be a valid reason to refuse to sell to someone.

It s scary to order from A company that is so reluctant to answer questions from his customers.
.. Customer questions/complaints should be considered as gifts.

I m very stunned with these kind Of methods in 2015. 300$ must represent nothing to them but that represent a lot to me. I would expect more respect from them as ā customer.

Thank you.
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Sat Oct 17, 2015 3:41 pm      Reply with quote
For anyone who has used the derminator at 1.0mm to 1.5mm, what's it like directly right after? does your skin grow tiny pinprick scabs all over, or does your face just appear red, and then fades overnight? are there lasting signs after 24 hours?
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Sun Oct 18, 2015 6:50 pm      Reply with quote
Kevin578 wrote:
For anyone who has used the derminator at 1.0mm to 1.5mm, what's it like directly right after? does your skin grow tiny pinprick scabs all over, or does your face just appear red, and then fades overnight? are there lasting signs after 24 hours?


I think that's up to the individual skin. One lady on here (RussianSunshine I think) experienced bleeding at .25. Around my lips I bleed using 1.5 but the rest of my face just gets pinprick dots and redness that fades and goes away the 2nd day.

It all depends on your skin and how deep you go.

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Mon Oct 19, 2015 3:55 am      Reply with quote
Immacolata wrote:
And the HA:

http://www.lotioncrafter.com/hyaluronic-acid.html


Hi Immacolata,

May I ask if there is any difference in the ULMW, SLMW, LMW,ELMW, and regular
Hyaluronic Acid when it comes to needling?

I was also wanting to use the HA with my Fyola (Sqoom-like device) and Sqoom uses low molecular weight HA but don't know which type.

I read the messages on this board but there doesn't seem to be a consensus on which to use for needling and/or ultrasound.

Thanks in advance!

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Mon Oct 19, 2015 9:44 am      Reply with quote
I use a hyaluronic acid and water in a spray bottle. After cleaning the skin, apply the serum. It will sink into the skin. That's ok because you will spray your skin with the water to add slip where you need it during the treatment.
This quote is credited to Xandria. Sorry, New tablet!
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Can you think for me more often,please?

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How is everyone disinfecting the cartridge? I can't entirely get the residual blood out of the single needle cartridge even after running it under hot water for a long time then soaking in 75% isopropyl alcohol.

My next question is how to clean the magnet? I was soaking it for a few minutes in isopropyl alcohol but after three uses, the silver coating is chipping off.

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Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:10 am      Reply with quote
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How is everyone disinfecting the cartridge? I can't entirely get the residual blood out of the single needle cartridge even after running it under hot water for a long time then soaking in 75% isopropyl alcohol.

My next question is how to clean the magnet? I was soaking it for a few minutes in isopropyl alcohol but after three uses, the silver coating is chipping off.


There should be instructions on the owndoc website for properly cleaning the cartridges and the device. I see no reason to clean the magnet. I'm sure the instructions are located within the document for the device.

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Well, I took it upon myself to revisit the documentation for the device. Since I myself couldn't recall the cleaning instructions. There are details regarding the removal and cleaning of the magnet. I have yet to roll over 1.0 and haven't experienced any fluids/blood in the device. I have cleaned the inside of device with a q-tip and alcohol, but that's the extent of it.

Maybe once I get into rolling over 1.0 then cleaning the magnet will be necessary.

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Fri Oct 23, 2015 8:52 pm      Reply with quote
I followed the directions from the beginning. I am using 0.5 mm and blood mixes with the saline and gets into the body of the device and on the magnet so I have to disinfect the magnet so bacteria doesn't grow. The body I clean with cotton buds and 75% isopropyl alcohol. The magnet was rinsed off with warm water to and then rinsed in alcohol and left out to dry for two days.

I just ordered some more magnets and want to be sure to care for them correctly so the silver coating doesn't peel again.

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Hmmm, I haven't thought about cleaning the magnet. I've used it half a dozen times or so, maybe I should clean it. I only bleed around the lips though.

You bleed at .5? Russian Sunshine said she was bleeding at .25. Maybe y'all have thinner skin than me.

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I'm going to get some denture tablets next week and use them as well as alcohol and hot water.

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