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Worrying reaction to the derma roller
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Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:02 am      Reply with quote
Hi all,
I have been derma rolling my face with 0.2mm (so really not very long) for six weeks now and overall it all went well.

But three weeks ago I decided to also roll the back of my hands and developed a red rash afterwards that was full of hundreds of tiny pinpricks of the derma roller.

The rash took over a week to clear up and since then the skin has been very wrinkly and like dry paper. (for 2 weeks).

I tried to use some scrub to get rid of the pergament like appearance but it is no good. It remains very clearly visible wrinkly and dried up appearance.

Anybody else had this problem? Did it go away? What could have gone wrong?
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Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:42 am      Reply with quote
Backs of hands, chest, abdo and thighs are more prone to a histamine reaction with rolling and that sounds like what happened to you. Taking antihistamines before rolling those areas could help. SCRUBS will make it worse. Just leave the rash alone and apply soothing oils without irritants til it heals. And sunscreen.

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Thu Oct 09, 2014 7:43 am      Reply with quote
Sorry, couldnt edit, but it also sounds like the skin's barrier is disrupted from scrubbing the already irritated area. If you read about corneotherapy it will give you some insight as to how to restore your skin.

http://www.corneotherapy.org/

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Thu Oct 09, 2014 8:06 am      Reply with quote
Can be a reaction to the product u use post-roll?

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Hi all,
I have been derma rolling my face with 0.2mm (so really not very long) for six weeks now and overall it all went well.

But three weeks ago I decided to also roll the back of my hands and developed a red rash afterwards that was full of hundreds of tiny pinpricks of the derma roller.

The rash took over a week to clear up and since then the skin has been very wrinkly and like dry paper. (for 2 weeks).

I tried to use some scrub to get rid of the pergament like appearance but it is no good. It remains very clearly visible wrinkly and dried up appearance.

Anybody else had this problem? Did it go away? What could have gone wrong?
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Thu Oct 09, 2014 8:35 am      Reply with quote
thanks for the advice. I will look it all up.

I have used the scrub only yesterday, 3 weeks after the initial event. The skin looks fully healed but very wrinkly and leathery and like dry paper.

I use serums from a company called skin actives (highly recommended, by the way)
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Thu Oct 09, 2014 9:24 am      Reply with quote
What serums did you use after rolling? Like RussianShine said, some ingredients can be harmful.
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Thu Oct 09, 2014 9:33 am      Reply with quote
it's collagen serum from skin actives
and a self-made one based on rosehip oil with lots of antioxidants thrown in from the same company.

There is a massive amount of actives in them - it would be easier to have a list of harmful ingredients.

Or a list of serums which will definitely do no harm. Does anybody know if such lists exist?
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Thu Oct 09, 2014 11:43 am      Reply with quote
Everyone has their own protocols it seems, but Setterfield has compiled his list of ingreds to avoid after needling because of disruption of the skin's bilayers and irritation:

surfactants
emulsifiers
emollients
acids
dyes
fragrances
UV filters
humectants except in humid climates

Its all in his latest book if you are interested in the why's and wherefore's.

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Thu Oct 09, 2014 11:53 am      Reply with quote
thanks for that - are there any recommendations what to use after needling?
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Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:28 am      Reply with quote
I just posted about using aloe vera on another thread, sorry to be redundant, but this is super effective for me...

I slice open a leaf and apply it overnight to any skin condition. It is so amazing, the improvement looks like a little miracle in the morning, for me. I cut a leaf, wash it, cut a piece and slice it down the middle opening it up and place the gelatinous side on the injury and bandage it up. This is the extreme method.

You could just spread the fresh gel on your hands all day long. Cut the leaf open, spread the gel, let it dry. When you wash it off, it will reconstitute the gelatinous feel. It sort of seals the skin. Fresh aloe vera gel from a leaf is my go to skin care product for injuries.

I keep potted plants of aloe vera so I can take them with me if I move and also because it spreads so fast in the ground in southern Arizona.

Use aloe vera on a small area to check for any allergic reaction before using aloe vera on injuries.

HGG

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Fri Oct 10, 2014 11:09 am      Reply with quote
thanks hydrogeogirl - I will try this.

I had yet another bad reaction - I needled with a 1.5mm very carefully and had hardly any blood. But now it's the third day afterwards and my forehead looks kind of brownish red and feels like sandpaper.

I think I will stick with the shorter needles in the future. Sad
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