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Mon May 30, 2005 10:16 am  |
Ok, so i've been using my new Vivier C 10 with Skinsceuticals B5 gel and the JB prep and ADCE for about 2 weeks now...and I also tried the Cellcosmet day sensitive twice (haven't tried the eye cream yet...trying to use up my old cream first)
Vivier C in the morning with B5 gel and JB twice a day just on the one line between my nose and mouth.
The good news, the JB products have lessened the depth of that wrinkle on the one side of my face  It is definitely a lot less deep. i'm hoping it goes away completely soon
I love the smell of Vivier C...and it hasn't turned yellow at all yet (although I am being pretty anal with it)
The bad news, my face (but not the neck) is going through this rashy thing (which i have experienced before). I get tiny tiny little bumps which I can feel (and which makes me upset because i have really soft skin). Luckily, the bumps are hard to see.
So, I was hoping the reaction was to the Cellcosmet day sensitive...which by the way has WAY TOO MUCH PERFUME. I don't like the smell. Anyway, so I cut the Cellcosmet out of the equation hoping that it wasn't the Vit C causing the reaction.
So far the rash/bumps haven't gone away...and then I also noticed yesterday one red dot (it looks like a red freckle) underneath my right eye 
So I'm thinking that my face isn't liking the Vit C - don't know if it is the brand or the Vit C. You dont' think it could be the B5 gel?
Anyway, before I admit defeat...I'm going to stop using EVERYTHING to let my face heal...then I'm going to try the Vit C alone (without B5) and hopefully it is ok this time...if not, I will just have to use it on my neck.
Maybe it is the perfume in the Vivier?
Do you think that JB C&C would be better?
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41 years,normal to dry, can be sensistive to products |
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Mon May 30, 2005 7:49 pm |
I would suggest what you have already planned. I haven't heard of that kind of reaction from Vit C before. When you mentioned that this has happened before, what were you using at that time?
When starting new products, it is a good idea to introduce them 1 at a time. Your skin may have just been over loaded. Try the Vit C again in it's own. If that is the culprit, you could try the JB C&C, I guess  Perhaps getting a sample, or buying it from somewhere that allows returns would be the best bet! Good Luck!! And I hope it isn't that Vit C too! |
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~normal but prone to dryness~slightly sensitive~usually clear~totm breakouts~mid 20s~ |
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Mon May 30, 2005 8:01 pm |
| Reactions to topical vitamin c, similar to the one you are having is not uncommon, especially in people with very sensitive skin types. You should stop using the products until it clears up, and then introduce 1 product at a time. I would suggest though using the vitaminc every other day and see if that will ease you skin into it. When you applied the vivier, was there any stinging/tingling, or tightness? |
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Tue May 31, 2005 2:38 pm |
I don't have sensitive skin, per se, but my skin seems to react to things....I didn't feel any tingling with the Vit C so I just assumed everything was fine.
The last time this happened was when I started using an Elizabeth Arden product with spf in it. I didn't react until a few weeks later !
As for getting Vit C testers....I have received some, but then I don't like using them because they have already turned yellow and I don't want to be counterproductive...so I feel like the only way to go with Vit C is buying a brand new bottle |
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Tue May 31, 2005 2:52 pm |
I don't use peptide products under my eyes anymore. I got some sort of scaly funny stuff with all 4 products I used also lumps. I've heard others have the same problem referred to as the uglies. Everyone has allergies to different things I use Skinceutical 20 and Cellex -C with not problem but it is drying to people with sensitive skin. It is a good idea to start one product at a time and maybe even stop everything else when you introduce a new product. I don't always take that advice (just got to get rid of that last wrinkle) but I think it is good advice. For example I looked up glycolic peels on MEDLINE and many studies showed skin thickening and many (one very publicized on the WEB) showed thinning. What was the difference; well it turns out if you are moderate you'll thicken your skin but if you cause too much damage (too often, don't build up to high conc. etc.) the opposite can occur.
Good luck hope you can eliminate the problem. It may take a little time (stopping the offending product will not necessarily stop the rash immediately especially if it is an allegic reaction). |
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Tue May 31, 2005 3:16 pm |
well, it is a good thing that my "rashes" tend to go away in a week..after 2 days of nothing i think my skin is on the mend again.
next time i try the c i am just going to patch test so i don't get a rash everywhere. |
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Tue May 31, 2005 8:07 pm |
Sharky,
As for the glycolic peels, you do need to leave healing time in betwen peels. They work by traumatizing the skin, and the healing time in between peels is where the rebuilding & thickening occur.
Cautious newbie,
Too bad your C samples are yellow. That's a bad sign.  |
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Wed Jun 01, 2005 5:21 am |
| Yes that's what I got from reading these articles. I still don't quite understand whether glycolic acid everyday in a pH buffered solution is beneficial or not. The pH of some of the vit C products I use is very acidic (around 2). I do not know the pH of the peel products. The ingredients do have some alcohol and triethanol amine to buffer it. I used the Avon 10% one a while ago and now make my own. |
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Wed Jun 01, 2005 1:13 pm |
I found an article to answer my question on MEDLINE. Doukis et al. Harvard/Mass. General,
Photochemistry and Photobiology, 74 (1), 2001, pg. 96.
They used two un-named commerical glycolic acid creams (buffered) and applied to arm skin every day for 21 days. Periodically they used a laser technique to assess new cell growth and found little regrowth or change in skin thickness in the control group but a linear increase with time in the change in thickness using the glycolic acid. Also the rate of change increased with increasing glycolic acid concentration.
Looks like it is a good thing. |
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