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Tue Jun 14, 2005 1:32 pm  |
Hello all you EDSers out there 
Can you spare some time to look over what I do?
I use the following products: oral Biocell Collagen II w/ Hyaluronic Acid, Skinceuticals SPF 45 Sport, and topical Retin-A .025% (prescription). Anyone have any beef with my current regimen and sunscreen? I like the Skinceutical SPF 45 Sport a lot and it doesn't leave my face oily (like the Ultimate), but smooth. What do you guys think?
I am thinking about using a Skinceutical serum for the added UV protection factor. I was thinking C+E or the new C+E F. I am big on sun avoidance but thought starting a serum could add big value to my regimen. The idea that a sunscreen without concomittant antioxidant serum coverage may provide a maximize of like 50% spectrum protection really sucks because I hate putting on sunscreen to begin with! I am all about using the least amount of products to get the most skin-enhancement value (mainly, protection). Also, how long does that ridiculously small (1 oz, I believe) Skinceutical dropper bottle last at the recommended 4-5 drops per day dose?
Expensive cleansers, toners, moisturizers, etc. are not really my thing. I just use cetaphil and, in fact, i do not bother with moisturizer. I don't use anything else besides what i've listed in the first paragraph. Thanks very much for taking the time to read! |
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Tue Jun 14, 2005 8:51 pm |
Hi M,
Just thought to let you know that vit c serum doesn't add to the UV protection factor, and neither does it increase absorption/reflection of the sunscreen in the UV spectrum.
Vit c complements your sunscreen because it is an antioxidant. One of the ways UV rays damage your skin is that is generates free radicals, and sunscreen prevents this to a certain extent. 
I've been using C+E for about 10 weeks now at a rate of 4 drops per day. I still have about 2cm left in the bottle.
Your regimen sounds great in my humble opinion. Moisturisers are not compulsory if your skin doesn't need it. The only problem I have is that I don't like the SPF45 Sport for its low UVA protection factor. |
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Tue Jun 14, 2005 10:41 pm |
Hi M
I just thought I'd let you know that another user did say that there is recent evidence that Vit C can boost the effectiveness of your sunscreen, though I'm not sure if that means physical or chemical ones or how quite. He didn't say much, just this.
"Also, using topical vitamin c in conjunction with an SPF of 30 has shown to boost the effectiveness of the sunscreen by as much as 82%"
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?p=50405&highlight=#50405
I don't know about other people's regimens. It's down to what suits your skin and lifestyle I reckon. If you're happy with it that's great.
M |
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Wed Jun 15, 2005 4:25 am |
| Thank u Bird and Molly. So are the serums worth the money in the long run do you all think? And what is the consensus on this message board regardung the best sunscreen? I'e read through some of the previos threads and there are a lot of sun screen products being mentioned. Thanks so much! |
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Wed Jun 15, 2005 6:15 am |
| Hi, I think using a C serum is a big boost to your skin day or night. I didn't know about it being more effecttive at collagen synthesis if used at night before Darren's post, so I may switch my copper peps and C serums around now! |
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Wed Jun 15, 2005 7:37 am |
Hi M
I was waiting for someone else to answer the sunscreen question, but there doesn't really seem to be a consensus; many it seems are using photostable chemical sunscreens a la Bad Bird and if you trawl through this thread you'll find them - LaRoche Posay and Avene are mostly recommended
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=6346&start=0
and some are still using physical screens like yours and some are on the long search for some kind of organic nirvana and haven't got there yet
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=6786
and some are saying nothing.
I think yours is fine by the way, it does have slightly lower UVA protection than the chemical ones, but if you found skinceuticals ultimate oily then I get the impression you won't enjoy using them.
Read the threads and make up your own mind.
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Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:06 am |
| Thanks all of the replies. Why is the SkinCeuticals Sport said to be an entirely physical sunscreen? I would say it is both chemical and physical because it contains both Zinc Oxide (4.5%, Physical) as well as chemical screens: Octinoxate (7.5%), Octisalate (4.0%), and Benzophenone-3 (4.0%). |
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Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:26 am |
M, you're right it's mixed; physical and chemical; the physical screen is fine, but it's true to say there are better chemical screens than this.
Long story, but the most popular chemical screens on the board (the ones in Avene and La Roche Posay) are not approved in the US yet, though we've used them in Europe for ages. M |
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Wed Jun 15, 2005 11:23 am |
| Thanks everyone |
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Wed Jun 15, 2005 7:10 pm |
Actually I say a long story, but it's not that long. Someone posted this NY Times article about it.
If you can't sleep read that. I can't sleep either, I wonder how many EDS users are insomniacs? Is that why we're here 
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=6746 |
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