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Wed Jan 26, 2011 1:40 pm      Reply with quote
Update - One month in: I believe my face is oiler than I originally thought...I always thought I had 'normal' skin with the T-zone slight oiliness. So with a few drops of caster oil in the carrier oil, I started breaking out on my chin...badly.

I decided to tip the scale towards a higher % of caster oil and less carrier oil. Now my chin is clearing up. And, I think more importantly, no new breakouts.

And I'm still rotating the carrier oils - jojoba, almond, avocado, apricot kernel, and grapeseed. I've also cut back to just doing the OCM at night and the effects (smooth, moisturized skin) seems to last even through my morning shower!

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Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:25 pm      Reply with quote
Oh My.

I used to do OCM years ago, but then my life got a little chaotic and I stopped, can't quite remember why.

I've just started again, and now I remember why I did it to start with.

My skin feels so wonderful and now it's starting to look better too!

edited to add: I'm doing 25% Castor 25% Olive and 50% Grape seed
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Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:11 am      Reply with quote
So I *thought* I was using the OCM for roughly a year now. But until I re-read this thread, I didn't realize how essential TIME is in order for OCM to work effectively.

For the past year, I just massaged my face for about 1 - 2 minutes and rinsed off and never really saw the glow or any gunk. But after I read this post for the second time, I decided to massage longer.

Two days ago, I spent 11 minutes massaging and didn't see any gunk but noticed that my skin felt soooooooo nice afterwards. So yesterday, I massaged for 40 minutes... It was around the 30 minute mark when my skin started releasing blackheads and other weird white hard stuff. YUCK!!!!!

hahahaha it felt GREAT. But I also noticed that my skin felt drier afterwards so I'm gonna let my skin rest for couple days and then massage away again!!!!

I AM LOVIN THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:21 am      Reply with quote
so... i was planning on letting my skin rest a bit but i broke down and had to try the OCM again. This time, within 5 minutes, all this gunk started coming out! it felt so good that i kept massaging for another 1.5 hours! My skin felt really dry afterwards though... and i didn't even add caster oil to my mix.

this weekend i'm going to buy some castor oil and hemp oil for my OCM.
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Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:45 pm      Reply with quote
Does it matter where I get my oils from? Is there a site online that sells purer oils specifically designed for making your own OCM? Or do you just get them from the grocery store?
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Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:46 pm      Reply with quote
Does it matter where I get my oils from? Is there a site online that sells purer oils specifically designed for making your own OCM? Or do you just get them from the grocery store?
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Wed Mar 16, 2011 10:19 pm      Reply with quote
Unless you want special oils like Rosehip, food oils are fine.

I use all food grade oils.

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Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:42 pm      Reply with quote
I use the cleansing oil from Garden of Wisdom.
It doesn't have any castor oil in it but it seems to work well enough for me. But I'm thinking about buying castor oil anyways to see if I can get even more gunk out.
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Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:00 am      Reply with quote
Hi everyone, after stumbling on this thread and reading about OCM, I've decided to give it a try and ordered some organic castor and jojoba oils online.

The first three to four times I tried it, it was great and a ton of stuff came out of my nose. However, after all the massaging the skin on top of my nose started peeling off and forming a rash. It took about a week of moisturizing for my skin to stop peeling. I was using 50% castor, 50% jojoba and some tea tree.

I stopped for about two weeks, and decided to try it again with a lower concentration of castor and higher jojoba. As I was massaging, my nose started peeling off again and I have a huge rash again, although not as large as last time since I stopped.

On top of that, the right side of my face has become super bumpy and un-even. Before OCM, I was breaking out a lot, but at least my face was smooth, now it's like the moon's surface.

I've read about how it takes a while for OCM to start working, but I'm not sure if I should stick out with it. Especially since my nose is peeling from the castor, I'm afraid to use it again, but I've read comments in this thread that its the CO that's the miracle of OCM. Does OCM work for everybody?

I just want soft, glowing, smooth skin Sad
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Mon Apr 11, 2011 12:23 am      Reply with quote
Hi. I've been searching for ways to get rid of black heads online and somehow I came to this forum. Treating oil problem(black head) with oil seemed counter intuitive at first but it made sense as I read through the postings. You guys have me convinced that oil is a good thing Smile
As far as cleansing goes, it seems getting castor oil to the pore is the goal and that carrier oil should be something that has lower viscosity and has moisturizing properties. The use of thinner oil as a carrier oil brought me to ask a question. "what is the thinnest oil that I can mix with castor oil to apply to my face?" I've read that olive oil can be used as a castor oil carrier but olive oil is much thicker than an expensive oil I bought from Kiehl (midnight recovery concentrate). This is also oil but it's really thin(almost like water). Only thing is this oil from Kiehl is too expensive to use as carrier oil Sad
Could someone shed a light on my search for a thin oil? I'd like to give it a try as a carrier oil for castor oil.

Thanks Smile
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Mon Apr 11, 2011 5:49 am      Reply with quote
Jojoba can be used alone, here is a link with many links to sites with information on ingredients, a ton with oils and their properties. Smile

http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=39428

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Mon Apr 11, 2011 8:12 am      Reply with quote
goingse wrote:
Hi. I've been searching for ways to get rid of black heads online and somehow I came to this forum. Treating oil problem(black head) with oil seemed counter intuitive at first but it made sense as I read through the postings. You guys have me convinced that oil is a good thing Smile
As far as cleansing goes, it seems getting castor oil to the pore is the goal and that carrier oil should be something that has lower viscosity and has moisturizing properties. The use of thinner oil as a carrier oil brought me to ask a question. "what is the thinnest oil that I can mix with castor oil to apply to my face?" I've read that olive oil can be used as a castor oil carrier but olive oil is much thicker than an expensive oil I bought from Kiehl (midnight recovery concentrate). This is also oil but it's really thin(almost like water). Only thing is this oil from Kiehl is too expensive to use as carrier oil Sad
Could someone shed a light on my search for a thin oil? I'd like to give it a try as a carrier oil for castor oil.

Thanks Smile


I found that the Kiehl's oil had some irritating ingredients... My skin did not like it at all unforunately even though so many people rave about it
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Fri May 27, 2011 9:49 am      Reply with quote
Has anyone thought of adding polysorbate to the oils so that when mixed with water during rinsing, it becomes easier to wash off?
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Fri May 27, 2011 10:01 am      Reply with quote
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Has anyone thought of adding polysorbate to the oils so that when mixed with water during rinsing, it becomes easier to wash off?


DragoN posted a recipe with polysorbate 80 which you should fine in the recipe index link I posted on the other thread.

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I'm new here...and I really need some advice! I started OCM a week or so ago, and it did wonders for my skin along with using my retin-a (which had stopped working to its full affect.) However, it recently started breaking me out in sore pimples along my chin and cheeks and lots of red bumps along my forehead...plus my skin has been pretty dry (when its usually very oily). I've been skipping some nights of OCM because of the breakout but I did it last night, and it seemed to help this breakout a little...but do you think that I should change to using OCM in the morning and retin-a at night? Maybe they are reacting...and I'm using 75% jojoba, 25% castor, and a few drops of tea tree oil. I was also thinking, maybe I should use only jojoba oil for a while to give my dry skin a break from the castor oil and help it heal a little? Are these two ideas worth trying??
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Tue Jun 07, 2011 5:09 pm      Reply with quote
Hi maybetomorrow7, I'm just giving you my hunch, so please weigh this out with your own feeling about it, and anyone else's who posts their response!

It sounds to me like you may be overdoing it. For some people every day may be a bit much and once a week might be an easier way to start.

And my oily skin got really dry & flakey when I first started, and then I realized I needed way less castor oil. I still use about a third (less than what you indicated), but everyone's different.

The last thing is that the tea tree oil may be to blame. To me its (too smelly, lol!), which makes me think that it might be strong, and that's why I haven't tried it. Do you like the smell? (Don't use something if you don't like the smell - that might be your body trying to tell you something!) Anyway, maybe try taking down the amount you use - "a few" drops of most esssential oils seems like a lot to put on skin, even in a half cup of oil!

Also, retin-A either immediately before or after seems potentially irritating as well. I would do OCM at a seperate time and retin-A definitely at night.

If my skin got dry, I'd give it a rest from ocm for a while til it starts balancing out on its own.

Again, these are just my gut feeling, based on MY skin. Yours may be more able to tolerate things.
Good luck!

- by the way, were all the above question on this page answered? Its been a while. I hope people remember to check back in & let us know how things went!

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IF i mix my oils together do i need to put it in a glass bottle? Or is a plastic bottle ok? And if I can only use a glass bottle, why?

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Hi Cortigirl, the plastic bottle or glass bottle depends on the oils you mix. Olive, grapeseed, jojoba, etc,... you can use plastic containers with no problem... it is if you add some kind of essential oil that you may have a problem, as depending on what essential oil you may want to add it may corrode the plastic. Not all essential oils corrode plastic but there are some that do, that is the reason why they recommend to use glass bottles when using 'essential oils'... there is no problem with basic food grade oils in using plastic containers, but if you intend to add some essential oil, check out that it doesn't corrode plastic.
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Cortigirl - I went to TJMaxx and bought a pretty glass pump bottle to hold my OCM concoction. It sits on my bathroom vanity and I enjoy using it.

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Man, from doing OCM 2x per week for 30 minutes, I went through a rough 1.5-2 month purging stage of my forehead around the end of 2010/beginning of 2011. My mom even asked what had happened with my beautiful skin! Then I was left with large open pores...very distressing. Now, finally, 6 months later, they have closed a significant amount. Finally! I was starting to worry that it wouldn't happen. Yay! Just wanted to post an update.

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Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:36 pm      Reply with quote
All I could say is.... WOW!

First time doing the oil cleansing method yesterday.

I have very dehydrated skin that's prone to breakout.

I did 10% castor oil & 90% EVOO.
Yes, castor oil makes a BIG difference. I used to just use EVOO (since I have sensitive skin and all this talk about irritation... I didn't want to take the chance).

SO much gunk came out!! Especially on my jaw which recently broke out with tons of whiteheads (happens VERY often for me). My nose and under my lips (but above my chin) area was 75% blackhead freeeeeeee! Also, I was starting to get crazy breakouts around my mouth since Monday (around 4-5 popping up everyday), but most are now FLAT!!

I had one really bad SMALL pimple that had a lot of pressure. It was pea size and the whitehead was tiny, but it hurt so much. Now... no pressure, going doooooown!

The peeling around my eyes has gone away. I feel like after this cleansing, my moisturizer penetrates better.

Also, there's ONE blackhead that has been under my eye area for 8+ MONTHS (it never went away. The blackhead would come out and another one would take it's place). After yesterday, it went BUH-BYE!! *AND* closed up!!

This is AMAZING! It's like I went to get a facial! (which I did!! Last Saturday the 11th!)

I have an amazing facialist, but after a week, my skin goes back to normal due to my peeling skin (from the pimples) which clog my pores and start the whooole process over.

I just noticed that my pores are SHRINKING on one side! I've had acne/pimples for 14 YEARS (since I was a preteen)! So I have a lot of acne scarring. However, the microdermabrasion my facialist did help with ALOT, but I haven't gone back to her (I have 2 facialist one $$ one $) because I just don't have the $$ to go every month. I don't have bad scarring like my boyfriend does (big holes, huge blackhead, but rarely any pimples).

I mean.. my acne would go away, then come back. Out of 14 years, I think I was clear for 3 good years. That's because I was doing mask religiously EVERY NIGHT and sleeping with it (very uncomfortable).

My skin was dry after oil cleansing, so I'm thinking in tomorrow I'll do it again (every other day). Even though I want to do it now!! But I'm going to do a hydrating mask tonight so that my skin is nice & soft!

Thank you EDS!!!!
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Sat Jun 18, 2011 10:36 am      Reply with quote
ATester wrote:
... if you intend to add some essential oil, check out that it doesn't corrode plastic.


Lavender oil 'ate' one of my plastic bottle! Rolling Eyes
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Isn't lavender oil really irritating?
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Add me to the list of devotees! Very Happy

I had the paranoia about starting this as well because I had many years of acne. I decided to take the "chicken" approach and do OCM, immediately followed by a Queen Helene Mint Julep mask to ensure the oil was completely removed from my pores. A ton of stuff came up at about the 5 minute mark the first time. The second time, stuff was coming up after only 2 minutes of massaging.

I decided to go all the way & researched which essential oils would be best for me. I stopped at a health food store and the way home to pick them up. I pulled up the DIY forum to follow the recipe...and then discovered the bottles didn't have droppers like I envisioned. It looks more like a shaker top. Is one shake considered one drop?
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Add me to the list of devotees! Very Happy

I had the paranoia about starting this as well because I had many years of acne. I decided to take the "chicken" approach and do OCM, immediately followed by a Queen Helene Mint Julep mask to ensure the oil was completely removed from my pores. A ton of stuff came up at about the 5 minute mark the first time. The second time, stuff was coming up after only 2 minutes of massaging.

I decided to go all the way & researched which essential oils would be best for me. I stopped at a health food store and the way home to pick them up. I pulled up the DIY forum to follow the recipe...and then discovered the bottles didn't have droppers like I envisioned. It looks more like a shaker top. Is one shake considered one drop?


I find that those shaker tops are more convenient cause it's easier to add more I need it rather than try to maneuver a dropper with oily hands. But it's hard to say.. every dropper and shaker are not always calibrated the same. It's best to just eyeball how much you need on the palm of your hand rather than go by how many drops.
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