too much glycolic acids?
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enjoys freebies · Sun Jul 03, 2005 9:09 pm Quote

Is there a limit to how many glycolic products a person should use?

I started the PTR 10% glycolic hydrating gel a few weeks ago and it's really improved my skin. Fewer pimples and smoother texture. I only use it at night because I use vit C in the morning.

I would like to try adding in a glycolic cleanser (twice daily) and toner (am only), would that be too much?

and...does anyone have any recommendations for cleanser and toner. I was eyeing the DDF 10% toner...

enjoys freebies · Sun Jul 03, 2005 9:22 pm Quote

I'd think you could add a cleanser no problem. But remember glycolic acid dissolves the "glue" that holds dead skin cells together. It's nice to have in a cleanser but without being on your face very long, the effect it can have is probably relatively small. The toner since it stays on your skin may contribute more. The only thing is there is only so much dead skin you can loosen up so you may see really great results at first and then it will not be so noticeable after a while.

enjoys freebies · Mon Jul 04, 2005 12:22 am Quote

eck...I hope my skin doesn't go back to what is was. Crying or Very sad

Mon Jul 04, 2005 2:14 am Quote

I've used the MDF cleasner, toner (MDF calls it "lotion" but it's a toner) and clearing complex before all at one time and had no major hassles and saw big improvement in my skin. I only used the clearing complex on problem spots though and not all over. Personally, I would go for the cleanser and toner, or the cleanser and the gel but not all three as I think it would be too drying for my skin. Also, I'd be more inclined to go the cleanser + gel route because the gel has something to counteract the dryness whereas the toner does not.

enjoys freebies · Mon Jul 04, 2005 9:13 am Quote

thanks mabsy,

I'll give the md cleanser a shot. there's a place nearby that sells it and I have a $10 gift certificate.

I like the sounds of the clearing complex but see it has a few things that irritate my skin in it...too bad.

enjoys freebies · Mon Jul 04, 2005 10:20 am Quote

I use md forte glycolic cleanser (30%) in the morning and the 20% lotion in the mornings and evenings. I don't think that it is too much. That being said, I think when I use up all the cleanser I will switch to something else. As someone said before, the cleanser is on the skin for so little time, I think that you get more bang for your buck with the lotion and there are so many more fun cleansers to try.

enjoys freebies · Mon Jul 04, 2005 3:18 pm Quote

abejita, did you start out with their level I and II or right to the III?

I can be pretty sensitive so I prefer to go it slow. I wish somewhere around here sold MD Forte. It doesn't seem to be available in Canada (or at least not that I've found so far)

enjoys freebies · Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:08 pm Quote

I went straight to the higher levels. (the III cleanser and II lotion) The cleanser strength didn't bother me at all, but I had to go back and order the level one lotion (I use the glycare and it only has level I and II) If you have sensitive skin, I would definitely suggest starting out slow. My skin is not sensitive in the least, and it would have been a big mistake for me to try to tough it out with the II lotion. It took a little over a week for the slight stinging to stop. When I went up to the II, it was the same thing, about a week to aclamate to it. Now I do not have any stinging.

Liz

enjoys freebies · Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:12 pm Quote

Thanks Liz. I'm going to give a cleanser a shot. Still looking for somewhere in BC to get MD Forte. I can't let my parents find anymore packages at the door right now! (I have to ask them to pay for my school tuition in sept)

enjoys freebies · Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:19 pm Quote

lianne - try eBay. There are several MD Forte items listed and the seller "skincare_101" ships worldwide.

enjoys freebies · Wed Jul 06, 2005 7:21 am Quote

thanks april....wow...she's got shipping as $20 for worldwide. Eck..maybe I'll email to see if she'd ship regular air mail for the $5/6

enjoys freebies · Wed Jul 06, 2005 7:51 am Quote

Lianne,

I recently contacted an Ebay seller called DV8 or something. His prices are cheap but he wants to charge USD9 for shipping to Canada, so I ended up ordering from skin-etc.com.

Ebay has the best prices but shipping can kill. Just to let you know about DV8 so you don't have to ask again. Some are rather reasonable though - like one MD Formulations seller which will ship for USD4. Smile

enjoys freebies · Wed Jul 06, 2005 8:01 am Quote

I've ordered a few things from skin-etc...it seems to take a long time to get here though. Probably will get it from them eventually.

I saw that ebayer had a note to contact about shipping so i'll have to do that, because the prices were really good.

enjoys freebies · Wed Jul 06, 2005 9:07 am Quote

Funny. I always get my stuff from them in exactly one week. Maybe because you're in BC and further? I'm in Toronto.

enjoys freebies · Wed Jul 06, 2005 11:47 am Quote

and my delivery last week from Skin-etc arrived in the UK in FOUR days - frankly, I was just amazed.

enjoys freebies · Wed Jul 06, 2005 3:57 pm Quote

maybe the vancouver customs is just slow? I've been waiting almost 3 weeks now for another package from Texas.

enjoys freebies · Wed Jul 06, 2005 5:03 pm Quote

Yes, I think customs is definitely the culprit. What I realised is that if you've ordered a ton of stuff, customs hold on to the parcel longer then if you just have a single item in a small box.

enjoys freebies · Wed Jul 06, 2005 6:11 pm Quote

I order stuff from skin-etc all of the time. They are in grapevine, tx and I am in Dallas (about 45 min away) If I place my order by 3pm, I get my package the next day. They are very quick. I would also suspect that your package is being held up by customs and not slow shipping from skin-etc.

Liz

enjoys freebies · Wed Jul 06, 2005 10:45 pm Quote

I wasn't saying it's them..it's just the post office.

stupid canada customs in vancouver is always backed up.

enjoys freebies · Wed Jul 06, 2005 11:22 pm Quote

oh, I know you weren't. I just wanted to reassure you that it more than likely wasn't them, that they are a good company. It just sucks when things get held up at the border.

Liz

enjoys freebies · Wed Jul 06, 2005 11:23 pm Quote

too bad you can't boycott them....I'd be paying twice as much for my stuff if I did that!

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