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Sat Jul 09, 2005 9:04 am  |
| i am using ddf whitening cleanser, int holistic and fade cream spf 30. please help me find whitening mask. thanks |
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Sat Jul 09, 2005 3:29 pm |
I think DHC makes one. Check outwww.dhccare.com
Lori |
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Fri May 25, 2007 2:48 pm |
| Decleor Aroma white mask is very effective. |
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Fri May 25, 2007 3:28 pm |
| the sekkisei toner, you can see the result immediately. but i don't like it! |
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Fri May 25, 2007 3:33 pm |
Ok - now don't everybody jump on me, but this has been on my mind for some time. I don't understand why so many Asian women are interested in these skin lightening masks?!?!? I've also noticed that most Asian oriented skincare sites are chock full of these products. If the objective is to achieve even skintone, then you don't have to answer. That is something we all want.
But one of the great attributes of our species is that we come in a whole range of colors, each beautiful in its own right. I really feel a certain amount of concern when I see posts, especially from YOUNG Asian women, bemoaning their lack of success of with skin lightening products.
I'm an American, but my background is Mediterranean. My skin is NOT fair. While I can appreciate the beauty of my fair-skinned sisters, if I tried lightening my skin, I think I'd just look sickly. Even worse, imagine if we all ended up looking like freaky deaky Michael Jackson ... EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK! |
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Fri May 25, 2007 3:39 pm |
imagine if we all ended up looking like freaky deaky Michael Jackson ...
you said definetly right! |
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Fri May 25, 2007 3:42 pm |
Hi katee. I'm not Asian (I'm black), but I'll attempt a simplistic (or maybe not  ) reply. It just goes toward the mores of a culture -- our ideals of what looks nice. Why are there so many tanning products out there? I don't think most whites want to be black, but they sure like the look of darker skin. I have very curly hair, and I straighten it. Many with straight hair do perms to get their hair curly.
From the little I understand, the Asian ideal of whiter skin came from the days when whiter skin meant higher class -- not forced to labor outside. It just seems to have stuck. Whether it makes sense or not, it's a view of many of what looks good. If I'm wrong, please excuse my ignorance; just expressing my current understanding! |
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Fri May 25, 2007 4:21 pm |
Thank you LilLoco - actually, your answer makes sense and I have no problem with it. I think we all like variety. I remember doing everything possible to make my hair super sleek and straight at one point. A few years later, I got a perm with long spiral curls. I'm more confident about my looks now and I'm happy with my hair the way it is. It's thick with some wave. If I want it smooth, I use a blow dryer. The only time I hate it is when its super humid and it tends to frizzzzzzzzzzz...
What caused me concern was the hint of an aesthetic ideal - i.e. that looking "white" somehow equates being beautiful. That shouldn't be imposed on anyone. |
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Fri May 25, 2007 7:36 pm |
dreamcat
i notice the decleor aroma white mask has purifying properties as well, how do u find it ? does it deep cleanses (a LOT) as well ? :> |
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i am a newbie ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL the way from Hong Kong !! currently enjoying my 1st EDS order (*excited*) |
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Fri May 25, 2007 10:58 pm |
MDF illumationg mask is very good  |
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using obagi now.. I had combination skin, oily on T zone and sensitive on cheek area.. easy to get breakout on chin and jaw line.. |
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Fri May 25, 2007 11:25 pm |
| LilLoco wrote: |
Hi katee. I'm not Asian (I'm black), but I'll attempt a simplistic (or maybe not ) reply. It just goes toward the mores of a culture -- our ideals of what looks nice. Why are there so many tanning products out there? I don't think most whites want to be black, but they sure like the look of darker skin. I have very curly hair, and I straighten it. Many with straight hair do perms to get their hair curly.
From the little I understand, the Asian ideal of whiter skin came from the days when whiter skin meant higher class -- not forced to labor outside. It just seems to have stuck. Whether it makes sense or not, it's a view of many of what looks good. If I'm wrong, please excuse my ignorance; just expressing my current understanding! |
I totally agree with you. I'm Thai, but of Chinese descent. My grandma was an immigrant from China and used to work in a rice field growing up there. I remember when I was little every night she used to use a muslin cloth to scrub and scrub my skin hoping to make my skin more "white" so to speak and kept cursing at me whenever I was out playing in the sun. Fairer skin implied higher/upper financial class as those fair-skinned ones weren't force to labor outside during her days, and vice versa for dark skin. It's still somewhat true these days in Thailand. Poorer people are still working labor jobs or selling things in streets being exposed to the sun all day, whereas middle/upper class people are sat in their airconed offices working. Now, don't get me wrong and jump at me, I actually like my skin tanned and I think this whole idea of catagorizing people by their skintones are complete and utter BS. |
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Sat May 26, 2007 3:10 pm |
| I believe Biotherm has one. |
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Sat May 26, 2007 3:43 pm |
Mayet,
I don't use them but I have seen specialist products for asian whitening/brightening/hyperpigmenation at the SKII counters. They look pricey but worth checking out as it is a Japanese brand and I think they target the similar beauty ideals. Decleor also does a line called Aromaessence White for brightening skin. Any bleaching products will in the long run damage your skin and make you more prone to sun damage so do research before you spend your hard earned cash.
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35, combo skin, can be acne prone; use Decleor, PSF 02, SKII products and anything that works including ancient voodoo hee hee. London based. |
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Sat May 26, 2007 4:23 pm |
| As a matter of fact, fairer skin does make Asians look younger and prettier. I am speaking from my own experience. I am an Asian and I do notice when I get tanned, I look older and ugly. I think mostly it is because the way our facial features are. It is also almost impossible for Asian skin to get tanned without getting sun spots at the same time. So to speak, it has nothing to do with wanting to be " WHITE". I remember seeing a video on Youtube about, which is a research an American student did for her thesis. Without doing any research about Asian culture and history, she simply assumed that Asians want to have fair skin because they admire western culture and so they want to look "White". It is funny to see how people feel privileged about themselves subconsciously. |
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Sat May 26, 2007 7:34 pm |
htian21
"Without doing any research about Asian culture and history, she simply assumed that Asians want to have fair skin because they admire western culture and so they want to look "White". "
............. Now i am slightly offended  . hope that student can do her research here, in this forum , and can understand the real y asian ( i am chinese ) think fairer means prettier
or she could just interview me, and i can SOOOOO tell her that it's not becoz i'm mimicking what "westerners" look like. |
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Sat May 26, 2007 9:21 pm |
| LilLoco wrote: |
Hi katee. I'm not Asian (I'm black), but I'll attempt a simplistic (or maybe not ) reply. It just goes toward the mores of a culture -- our ideals of what looks nice. Why are there so many tanning products out there? I don't think most whites want to be black, but they sure like the look of darker skin. I have very curly hair, and I straighten it. Many with straight hair do perms to get their hair curly.
From the little I understand, the Asian ideal of whiter skin came from the days when whiter skin meant higher class -- not forced to labor outside. It just seems to have stuck. Whether it makes sense or not, it's a view of many of what looks good. If I'm wrong, please excuse my ignorance; just expressing my current
understanding! |
Totally true. There is a huge percentage of asian people who like their skin to be as white as possible, and it has nothing to do with looking like a white person - its just a cultural thing that DOES go back to the labourers working in the field, and the higher class/wealthier people, not having to toil in the hot sun.
With that being said, I'm Chinese and I love being tan...so do the rest of the family. However, on DH's side of the family, they shun the sun and try to be as white as possible. He constantly rags on me for lying around...but hey, I like to have a little colour |
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Angierenee
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Joined: 26 May 2007
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Sat May 26, 2007 10:53 pm |
| would a whitening mask lighten up freckles? |
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Sun May 27, 2007 7:49 pm |
Check out the Cosmelan 1 Depigementation Treatment Mask and Maintenance System. I have just posted about this very product, including a list of ingredients, in a thread called 'lightening freckles'. There are also other members here who have started a few threads about the Cosmelan system, so please do a search to see what they've had to say about it's whitening effects.
BTW, this is the company that makes the system: http://www.mesoesteticusa.com/lineas.php |
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Sun May 27, 2007 7:49 pm |
| Angierenee wrote: |
| would a whitening mask lighten up freckles? |
Absolutely! |
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Fair with mild rosascea & combination skin (dry with oily t-zone) |
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Mon May 28, 2007 12:57 am |
| Blacklace wrote: |
Any bleaching products will in the long run damage your skin and make you more prone to sun damage so do research before you spend your hard earned cash.
HTH |
Most folk on here know my views on skin bleaching products. Hydroquinone is the worse, but the jury is still out on the safety of kojic acid and arbutonin (which converts into HQ) and long term usage isn't advised.
I don't care what you say, something like the cosmelan mask which turns you pale overnight is NOT gonna be good for your skin! |
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my new jewellery website:www.gentle-medusa.com |
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Mon May 28, 2007 1:13 am |
| guapagirl wrote: |
| Blacklace wrote: |
Any bleaching products will in the long run damage your skin and make you more prone to sun damage so do research before you spend your hard earned cash.
HTH |
Most folk on here know my views on skin bleaching products. Hydroquinone is the worse, but the jury is still out on the safety of kojic acid and arbutonin (which converts into HQ) and long term usage isn't advised.
I don't care what you say, something like the cosmelan mask which turns you pale overnight is NOT gonna be good for your skin! |
I used to have VERY tough skin when I was younger, but I went crazy with whitening products and tried all the popular ones in the market (La Prairie, Shiseido, Dior, Chanel, Sekkisei, SKII, etc). Yes, I did achieve nice flawless skin. Now, I suffer from super sensitive thin skin. As soon as I start sweating, my skin starts burning. A few minutes in the sun turns me tomato red and now I get sun spots so easily. I strongly believe it's due to all those whitening products I piled on my skin when I was younger. My best advice, stay away from them! |
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Mon May 28, 2007 7:02 am |
Yes, whitening skincare has a huge market in Asia.As a matter of fact, a lot of the western based cosmetic giants produced skincare whitening products specially for,quote Asian skin. unquote. How good is their claims that their whitening skincare are result proof?
In my experiences with using their so called breakthrough technology in inhibiting melanin, well, nothing really work to their claims. I come to understand that our skin is in tune with our habitat. If we try very hard to change our skin DNA by using the man made mechanism, we are actually looking into trouble in long term.
I have stopped using whitening skincare to try to get rid of my freckles. They have never gone even when I stayed in London for seven years where sunshine and hotness was a rare things and I was mostly indoor.
I have learnt that the best way for our skin to look even toned is by way of sloughing - by peeling, in line with our skin natural cycle, shedding off the old skin and to protect the new skin by using the appropriate skincare. |
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Mon May 28, 2007 10:44 am |
| Neostrata is good for whitening. They don't advertize it as such on the bottles but basically the high PHA and AHA strips off dead cells to help bring out new layers of the epidermis. If you are already very fair, like me, you don't notice it as much while you are using the products, but once you stop, you notice your skin getting, not darker per se, but duller, maybe more yellowish. Good also for light coloured, small spots. |
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Mon May 28, 2007 10:46 am |
| And have you considered doing IPL? I did a course (6 sessions, each three weeks apart) and then maintained by doing another once every six to eight weeks. Really brightens the skin and takes away dullness. Even my husband notices after I have it done. |
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