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Fri Sep 22, 2006 7:34 pm  |
| I had the same issue for years. Sprionolactone is a miracle. It is a potassium-sparing diuretic, prescription only. It is very cheap ($5/month). I haven't had one pimple since taking it. Good luck!! |
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Fri Sep 22, 2006 7:53 pm |
I have this problem too and it is getting me so depressed. I've been breastfeeding and/or pregnant for the past six years. In all of that time, I've only had about 7 periods (it's been great!) so I can't blame it on that time of the month. I get lots of breakouts on my chin and neck and I just can't seem to break the cycle.  I'm seeing a lot of improvements with the Dr. H line and I am now taking MSM as well as a DHA pill along with my prenatal vitamin (I'm nursing right now). I'm leery of taking too many additional suppliments and I only want to use natural skincare lines now. It's sooooo frustrating. It's comforting to know I'm not the only person out there well past their teens struggling with this (I'm 36). It really affects how I feel about myself and I'm trying hard to find a way to cope with it without breaking the bank!  |
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Raquel10
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 10:24 pm |
| Im an esthetician myself but of course that does not mean my skin is perfect, far from it i have breakouts around my chin area (meaning hormonal) and they seem to be worse than ever....we were never taught in school that birth control can have an affect and I myself can't really tell I use Orthotrycyclen LOW does anyone seem to know a little bit about it......and btw I use all dermalogica products, for normal to oily skin.. |
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Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:31 pm |
Are you absolutely sure it's hormonal?
Reason I ask is I've started getting breakouts around my jaw or rather cystic under the skin, I've never had these before. It's been really getting me down. Whilst the hormonal stuff I used to get on my cheeks has cleared up recently.
So I thought hormonal stuff had transfereed but when I mentioned this to my facialist and she said hormonal wasn't normally jawline, and did my cats sleep on my bed and also did I touch my face. Well my cats do sleep on my bed but they've always done so. But since then my hubby mentioned the other day in passing how often he found my big cat sleeping on my pillow (not when I'm on it) which is a new thing. I've also woken up during the night to find myself touching my face. So the last couple of days I've been putting my pillow uo when not in use and wearing gloves to bed and things seem to have calmed down. |
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hziller7
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Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:21 am |
I heard Vitex agnus-castus suppliment works. I just ordered some a few minutes ago... Cool thing is I got a code that gave me $5 off, so 100 free capsules only a total of $1.68 for shipping  I'm really anxious to try it. I hope this stuff works.
go to iherb's website and find natures way vitex fruit for $4.87. let's see if this is the answer to our problems |
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Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:26 am |
| seems i am not the only one has this problem |
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Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:26 am |
| hziller7 wrote: |
I heard Vitex agnus-castus suppliment works. I just ordered some a few minutes ago... Cool thing is I got a code that gave me $5 off, so 100 free capsules only a total of $1.68 for shipping I'm really anxious to try it. I hope this stuff works.
go to iherb's website and find natures way vitex fruit for $4.87. let's see if this is the answer to our problems |
what is this?? |
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Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:07 pm |
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| i thought birth control pills were supposed to help clear your skin? or does it depend on the brand? |
It has to do with the ratio of estrogen to progestin and also the type of progestin; some progestins are more androgenic, or more likely to stimulate male hormones and cause acne. Some good brands are Orthocyclen, Orthocept, Yasmin, etc.
I went on Orthocyclen when I was 33 after having adult acne for 5 years. It is the only thing that made any difference.
The book I read that convinced me to go on the pill is called It's My Ovaries Stupid by Elizabeth Vliet. Also, Unblemished by Rodan and Fields, the Proactiv derms. |
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Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:04 pm |
I really think the cystic acne on my chin was hormonal. It got worse when I went off the pill and seemed to be related to my period. Once I got pregnant my face continued to breakout for the first three months and for the past three months of my pregnancy my face has never looked better. I still have acne once in a while (not cystic) but it's much much better and I'm not even using salycylic acid or anything else (other than occasional tea tree oil) to treat my skin.
I have heard of vitex (which I think is made up of chaste berry) and is supposedly a natural hormone regulator. I've tried it and did find it helped with PMS, I can't remember if it helped with the acne or not? Since becoming pregnant I seem to have lost half my brain!  |
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Age 34, fair skin, freckles, strawberry blonde hair, blue/green eyes, combination skin, oily t-zone, TOTM breakouts on chin, occasionally cystic acne, no real wrinkles "YET" but do have fine lines around eyes. HG so far has been Jan Marini and Dermalogica products |
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Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:45 pm |
I do believe that most breakouts are internal based. When I literally started reducing my intake of dairy products, I noticed the breakouts did not come around my cheeks as much. With better skin care & diet later, breakouts around my jawline reduced as well. I now use the Oil Cleansing Method with a topical AHA, a physical sunscreen, along with manual exfoliation/detox mask at least twice a week. My skin stops with the breakouts except when it's my time of month.
I think the key to preventing hormonal breakouts is to balance your hormones, makes enough sense. It's amazing what an imbalance of hormones can do to one's health. Menopause is a perfect example of that.
With all that said, I've read good things about Maca powder as it helps regulate hormones but without adding hormones to your body. A great alternative to birth control, progesterone, etc. It should be noted that it should not be taken while pregnant, if you have a history of breast/prostate cancer, thyroid issues, or with birth control. I plan to be trying this out as an experiment. With most anything, I will be having my doctor monitoring my levels during this.
This is a brand I'm going to try that I read good reviews about...
http://www.navitasnaturals.com/products/maca.html
Also this site explains all the side effects, concerns, & what exactly is in it
http://macatalk.com/faqs/effects.html
http://www.macaroot.com/nutrients/index.html |
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Thu Mar 04, 2010 12:31 am |
| Amarise wrote: |
I do believe that most breakouts are internal based. When I literally started reducing my intake of dairy products, I noticed the breakouts did not come around my cheeks as much. With better skin care & diet later, breakouts around my jawline reduced as well. I now use the Oil Cleansing Method with a topical AHA, a physical sunscreen, along with manual exfoliation/detox mask at least twice a week. My skin stops with the breakouts except when it's my time of month.
I think the key to preventing hormonal breakouts is to balance your hormones, makes enough sense. It's amazing what an imbalance of hormones can do to one's health. Menopause is a perfect example of that.
With all that said, I've read good things about Maca powder as it helps regulate hormones but without adding hormones to your body. A great alternative to birth control, progesterone, etc. It should be noted that it should not be taken while pregnant, if you have a history of breast/prostate cancer, thyroid issues, or with birth control. I plan to be trying this out as an experiment. With most anything, I will be having my doctor monitoring my levels during this.
This is a brand I'm going to try that I read good reviews about...
http://www.navitasnaturals.com/products/maca.html
Also this site explains all the side effects, concerns, & what exactly is in it
http://macatalk.com/faqs/effects.html
http://www.macaroot.com/nutrients/index.html |
Keep us posted, please. I am also interested in Maca. Hope you have good results. |
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Sat Mar 06, 2010 8:24 pm |
Oh I definitely will. I've been researching about it zealously. I purchased some Maca powder at Whole Foods the other day but haven't used it yet until I do my tests with my doctor.
I will say that if you decide to try Maca, make sure it is the gelatinized version, and that you start off with a low amount slowly.
There are reports of people reacting badly with Maca powder, though in most cases, I found that they used the raw form either in the powder or pill capsules. As far as the amount one should take varies widely on your body weight and health issues. That's why I'm monitoring myself with my doctor and starting off small. Everyone has their own set of nutrients needs. The cool thing is that you can test most of these levels by a simple blood test.
You can research it from reputable sources about how Maca is consumed in Peru. This article, in the comments section shows the many bad effects people had with Maca, mostly due to high amounts of it in the raw form.
http://www.highonhealth.org/what-nobody-tells-you-about-maca-root-powder-dangers-and-side-effects/
I found this person's comments from the same section to sum up the misperception of Maca very well.
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I feel compelled to counter the widespread notion in the US “health food” community, that maca should be eaten raw.
“Gelatinized” maca is not designed for the purpose of being a concentrate. It is designed to address the digestion problem which many people have with maca, to make an acceptable product for general consumption. Bear in mind that gelatinization is only used on vegetables with a rather dense fiber matrix.
Now, I realize that raw-foodists (and companies who sell raw flour) always say it’s unilaterally better to “eat it raw” - and I realize that they are the primary maca advocates in the USA. However, in their efforts, they completely ignore traditional preparation. I can assure you that maca is cooked deliberately and for a very perceptible reason. Maca is never eaten raw in Peru, and the whole concept of eating it raw is strange.
If you have strong digestion, and eat vegetables regularly, than indeed maybe you can handle raw maca. However, in my experience growing and eating maca, raw maca flour is simply not suitable for widespread general consumption. It causes upset stomach in many people. Raw maca also slows up the thyroid, because it is full of goitrogens, being a cruciferous vegetable. It will throw off metabolism and can affect hormones in a negative way. The eating of raw maca is the primary reason for all the negative experiences people have with the herb.
That is why cooking is maca is so important, and why I will always recommend eating it that way. It is important that people understand the identity of this plant.
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Again, I cannot stress the importance of cooking maca. The fibers in maca are dense and difficult to digest, this is well known (this is why a concerted effort was made to develop the fiberless ‘gelatinized’ maca in the first place). It is very odd to Peruvians that people would eat the uncooked maca flour. Even the flour used for making on-the-go shakes in major Peruvian cities is from cooked roots.
It seems that many companies selling maca in the USA are selling the raw flour plain as a nutritional supplement. Given many of the responses above, I have to consider this irresponsible, not only for people’s health, but for people’s understanding and impression of maca. Selling raw maca flour/powder as a nutritional supplement is promoting a number of negative experiences. I often hear about them myself, and am saddened by the irresponsibility of these companies who do not know/care for it’s proper preparation. The native Peru price of maca flour would be equivalent to $2/lb. You see how much it gets marked up!
Cook your maca powders/flours - and use gelatinized maca if you’re making shakes. That way you’ll at least have a legitimate maca experience, and know if the herb is right for you. |
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Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:32 pm |
That sounds like a great alternative as well. I like the fact that it comes from vegetable sources.
Do you have a brand that you prefer? |
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Sat Mar 06, 2010 10:24 pm |
Here is my story...
I m currently 30..since i time i truned 20,,,i have never been able to get a face with out atleast 10 huge acne spots on it,,,huge acnee,,,,,i have never saw myself without it,,,,,many times i had 25 huge ones on my face....took accutane,,,took antibiotics,,all helped for the time being...the longest relief was after accutane,i didnt get acne for 3 years,,but after that,,,started again...Then i got married with an acne ruined face,,got bad scarring on both cheeks because of it...One day i was really sad,my face was llooknig miserable because of the 20 acne spots all over it,,,i was searching onlnie for the treatment,was dying to treat it,,was ready to try anything to get rid of that miserable face....i read fewthreads on the site acne.org and found that people were getting benefit form Niacin 500 mg daily use..there were so many new and late comers..the new ones were like(How is that possible,,neevr heard niacin for acne treamtent bla bla,and ) then the same users were like coiming on the same site and they were wrinting things like(wow unbelievable,we started using that and for the first time in 10 years or 20 years,,,we havent got a single acne spot for one month),,,
So Joom thats what made me give it a try and i was surprised to the point of getting faint,,,,since then(since the last 5 months)my acne has gone...i have acne free face...i dont get acne anymore,,,,if i do,,it is one spot may be in a month,as copared to 20 spots ...My hubby didnt know i wasa doing that and he was really surprised how all of a sudden my skin changed and become without acne..i would recommend before tryingother htings,,,plz do try 500 mg niacin,(not the slow realease form),use it everyday with food,,,see for a month how it does for you...
Tk care ...Best of luck... |
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Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:31 pm |
Birth control pills will have different effects on you because they use different combinations of hormones. Lo/ovral didn't really do anything good for my skin, but Ortho Tri Cyclen (not the Lo version) made my skin nearly perfect--I could do whatever I wanted to it and it would still look good. The downsides were recurring yeast infections (TMI, sorry) and some weight gain.
I've suffered from hormonal acne most of my adult life. Surface treatments only get at the effects, not the cause, and you'll find yourself caught in a cycle of obliterating your skin in an attempt to get rid of the pimples, then dealing with the scars, hyperpigmentation and flaky, irritated skin for the week or so you're not actively breaking out.
The only thing that worked for me (besides BC) was Spironolactone. Someone above mentioned what it is so I won't reiterate, but it's been a miracle for me. It even changed my skin from combination-oily (needing to blot and powder several times per day) to normal (hardly ever needing to blot or powder during the day). It may be too potent for some, so herbal remedies are worth a shot before diving into a Rx. I've heard that spearmint tea, drunk in sufficient quantities, can have a similar hormone-balancing effect. I've also heard good things about Vitex and Evening Primrose Oil. Whatever you choose, good luck! |
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Light, yellow undertones, dark hair & eyes, extremely combo., resistant skin prone to congestion, dryness AND breakouts! |
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Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:27 pm |
I'm also on Spironolactone and it has helped me quite a bit with hormonal acne and that oil slick T zone area. I am on 50mg and some of the side effects of taking it aren't so great... it's a diuretic as described earlier... and it makes my breasts swell(some people may like that!)
It may be worth a shot to get a script for it and try it out..it takes a few months to get the full effect and if you go off of it, your oil production returns so I'd recommend sticking with it to see if it's for you. HTH |
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38 fair skin,oily, hormonal acne, rosacea...trying to combat facial sagging and skin damage on arms and legs. Currently using a Microdermabrasion machine, Pro High Frequency Device, Faceworks facial exercises, Tua Viso, and AALS. |
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Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:54 pm |
So I'm back with some updates. After going to my doctor and testing my hormone levels and other things, I came to find that my testosterone was too high and my estrogen levels were out of whack. So my doctor suggested to take Vitex as she explained that it supports your hormones to regulate itself versus actually replacing them with supplemental hormones.
So I'm almost a month on Vitex waiting for my next cycle to see how that goes for the hormonal acne. Then later I will be re-tested to check my levels. I like the fact that it doesn't feel hard on my stomach such as multivitamins can do on an empty stomach.
I would say the topical treatments can work temporarily but try to make the effort to check your hormone levels if you can. I'm 21 myself and am trying to get my mother to have hers tested. It's a really simple test and can be worth it for quality of life besides the aesthetic value of less breakouts. There are also many ways to go about getting them balanced whether you need to take birth control or a different supplement fits you better. |
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Sat Jul 24, 2010 6:09 am |
| I also have the same problem and I'm wondering what kind of diet should I be on to keep my hormones in check? |
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Sat Jul 24, 2010 8:02 am |
Just updating about my own regime. I'm slowly cutting back on the Spiro dosage in favor of herbal supplements. For the purposes of controlling my hormones, I take a multivitamin that has vitex/chasteberry in it (New Chapter Every Woman's One Daily) and DIM. They're working pretty well as replacements. I've also read that spearmint tea also has a (weak) hormone-balancing effect. I'd suggest trying these supplements. They're pretty inexpensive and won't hurt you (DIM is basically broccoli extract).
For general skin (I also have seborrheic dermatitis and am prone to dryness) and health reasons, I also take 4000 mg of fish oil, silicon drops, 2000 mg MSM, 2000 mg vitamin C and a probiotic with meals. But these things (particularly the fish oil, which is anti-inflammatory) are thought to be good for acne too. |
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Light, yellow undertones, dark hair & eyes, extremely combo., resistant skin prone to congestion, dryness AND breakouts! |
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