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Sat Sep 10, 2005 8:15 am      Reply with quote
Hi Everyone

I'm new to this site and finding it very informative. I,ve been reading the links on sunscreens and been wanting to try the la roche posay sunscreens but saw that mineral foundations can degrade the uva in it. Does anyone know any makeup that would be good to use with la roche as I cant go without my foundation!!

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Sun Sep 11, 2005 5:44 am      Reply with quote
That's a really tough one... I don't think we have found one yet. However, Avene is okay with foundations that contain iron oxides, so you could look into that. I like the Avene 60 in the spray. When I wear make up, I use this one! I don't wear make up everyday though. I don't know what type of make up you wear, or how often....but, if you wear mineral make up, another option is to prime first with cornstartch; or a cornstarch based product like Jurlique Silk Dust. Ideally, I would use the Avene though, and the LPR on non-makeup days. Smile

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Sun Sep 11, 2005 6:02 am      Reply with quote
Is the avene one very oily? My skin is pretty normal, I hardly ever get pimples but i do get blackeads so have to be careful i dont put anything to heavy on my face. I wear makeup every day at the moment a Loreal one.
We only get one avene sunscreen in australia which I hated(so thick and white)so I have to purchase overseas Crying or Very sad We dont get LRP either just ordered that from overseas.
Do you or anyone else know any good web sites that sell avene(that ship overseas)

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I order it from the same place as the LPR, usually at the same time. It is less greasy than the LPR, IMO. I get the spray in the orange bottle. SPF 60.

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Sun Sep 11, 2005 6:34 am      Reply with quote
Has the spray been designed for use on the face?
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I really don't know, but I haven't had any problems with it. I know some other EDS members use it as well, and like it. If LPR isn't giving you a problem, I doubt this would either. What LPR are you using? I use Fluide Extreme 60, so that is what I am comparing it to. If you are using a lighter product than the FE 60, then I am not sure.

http://www.bce-europe.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=9&products_id=924&osCsid=342816632dfeefc678887e7f7c4c4d51

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Sun Sep 11, 2005 8:05 am      Reply with quote
i havent used lrp yet but I have ordered the LRP fluide extreme 60 so i guess Ill see if my skin lkes that first before trying anything else
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I ordered the Avène Emulsion 60 and must say that with the minimum quarter/teaspoon-sized amount that is recommended for application to the face alone, my face was left with a thick, chalky-white cast all day. Not too sticky, though. I wear this on days I have to stay at home to get work done (windows = sunlight) & pray the UPS guy doesn't come that day.

Applying any face products like foundation only worsened the effect for me, because whatever I applied appeared extremely thick atop this sunscreen, & never looked rubbed in. The irony of all of it all is that I ordered this particular sunscreen specifically for when I'd like to wear makeup! (I usually wear the Anthélios XL Fluide Extreme 60.)

However, I've heard raves on this board regarding the spray version of this Avène sunscreen, and I'd like to try it. Does it provide a less-chalky cast? Does it sting the eyes at all?

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Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:10 am      Reply with quote
I use the Avene spray and have never had a problem - no white casts. I use it on my face and body in SPF40. This is the least oily sunscreen I've found.

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When you apply this, do you apply it directly to the face, or fill it in your palm first?

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Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:02 pm      Reply with quote
Where can I get the Avene 60?
And what is LPR? Confused
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SugarFreeSheila wrote:
When you apply this, do you apply it directly to the face, or fill it in your palm first?


I spray it in my hands first, and then apply. I am careful around my eye area, but do put it right up to my lashes. I haven't had any stinging. Smile

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Veronica wrote:
Where can I get the Avene 60?
And what is LPR? Confused
Thank you guys!


http://www.bce-europe.com/index.php?osCsid=85b3326f2324d2ca926c14500084ed96

Shipping is expensive, but they carry both lines. I just make large orders...

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I use Avene Spray SPF50+ (used to be called SPF60) everyday I wear makeup. Like faith, I use LRP FE on non-makeup days. I consider the oiliness of each product to be about equal. The Avene Spray doesn't create any chalkiness -- at most, only a bit of whiteness. It spreads on easily because it's so liquidy, just like LRP FE.

Because of the long, hot summer we've had, I've been wanting to try Avene Emulsion SPF50+ since it's touted as being less oily, but after reading SugarFreeSheila's remarks I'm not sure I want to!!! Since s+h charges make these products so expensive, experimentation is risky. I've been very happy with the Spray (which I first squirt into my palm before applying), but have to use a dusting of T.LeClerc Camelia loose powder to cut the shine (at least while the weather's so hot). Another good thing about the Spray is that it comes in a 100ml bottle, whereas many of the other Avene sunscreens come in 50ml sizes. A friend brought me some Avene Creme SPF50+ from her trip to France and it's extremely rich so I'm saving it for the dead of Winter. Also, even though it's not labelled as being tinted, it has a slightly pinkish cast until it's applied and then it leaves a whiter film than the Spray. I've also used Avene Lotion/Lait SPF50+ for face and body and this is heavy-duty stuff -- very thick and rich and leaves quite a bit of whiteness on the skin (but less so as it finally "sets"). This also comes in a 100ml size.

Bad Bird uses LRP FE but she rarely wears makeup. It's advantage over Avene is that it offers better UVA protection.

Bottom line - Avene Spray SPF50+ is my favorite sunscreen and has become a staple in my cosmetic collection. Since so many makeup products contain metallic ingredients, I feel more confident that I'm not degrading sunscreen effectiveness by applying makeup over it.
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Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:51 pm      Reply with quote
Does the avene spray have tinosorb(is that the right word??)in it?
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carolb69 wrote:
Does the avene spray have tinosorb(is that the right word??)in it?


Yup, that's the one. Smile

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Wed Sep 14, 2005 5:28 pm      Reply with quote
thanks for your help Very Happy
I noticed they(avene) have a gel cream for oily skin,anyone tried that? LPR have a spray now too i saw at beauty target,could be worth trying.

Another question,sorry, the LPR i ordered is the XL,not SX, is that just as good,I dont know the difference between the two.
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Wed Sep 14, 2005 6:39 pm      Reply with quote
XL is the one I use, Carolb69! Also, I use the La Roche-Posay Anthélios spray on my back; that's one area my husband can take care of. lol (Even I'll admit sunscreen's a pain!)

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Wed Nov 30, 2005 8:56 am      Reply with quote
hello, is it ok to mix the two together in the morning? Because i have been reading posts about how some ingredients degrade the LRP.
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hello, is it ok to mix the two together in the morning? Because i have been reading posts about how some ingredients degrade the LRP.


Mix what two? LRP FE and Avene?? and then put on make up? No, doing that will still cause the LRP to degrade.

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Thu Dec 01, 2005 12:39 am      Reply with quote
Hello, has anyone here try the Oil Of Olay moisturizer with sunscreen? It comes in SPF 15 and 30. I tried the SPF 15 one and I found it quite good...it's moisturizing enough already and it's not expensive. If you don't stay out in the sun for long hours, that might be a good choice. Smile
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