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Fri Nov 11, 2005 10:33 am |
Well, this morning while i was watching TV, my dad comes into the room and says "those products are not working, you need to go back to the triaz pads (3% benzoyl peroxide) and get your skin peeled" then i said that the DHCC exfoliates and usally brakes out more for 1-2 weeks(right?) and thats why my broken out areas are a bit more redder/more whiteheads. then he said "No, you dont need an exfoliant, you need a skin peel, your skin might be red but thats the only way your going to get rid of your acne." (umm, I use Duac and Retin-A... ..)
So i am not sure what to do here. Been on my plan (look below) for about 3-4 weeks, and been using the DHCC for about 1-2 weeks.
Is he right? or am i? ([sarcasm] my dad saying that to me really helps [/sarcasm])
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-Cleanse with only water
-ACV toner
-spot treatment(if needed, rarely)
-150mg clindomyicin pill with breakfast
-Sunscreen( on days i go out )
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- ACV toner, then duac (spot treat)
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- clind pill
-shower with Cetaphil
-Dr H Cleansing Cream
-ACV toner
-Vit C serum
-Retin A (spot treat everynight)
-Facial mask(havnt used it yet) |
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 12:12 pm |
The only thing that I would comment on is that you say that you spot treat with retin-a. You will not get the full benefits of retin-a by spot treating, that is not how it is meant to be used. Retin-a needs to be used regularly over your entire face, whether or not you currently have acne in that area. Retin a is meant to prevent acne, not necessarily treat spots once they occur, that is why it is som important to use it regularly over your entire face. Also, I wouldn't use retin-a and vitamin C at the same time, as it will increase your chances for irritation. Use your vit C in the morning and retin a in the evening and be sure to use sunscreen. |
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 12:41 pm |
I know that sunscreen is super important but my dermatologist said that he hasn't seen a sunscreen that doesn't clog pores. Sunscreen essentially forms a sheild on your skin to block sun rays, etc from penetrating. This means your sweat is mixing with the sunscreen and its all sitting in your pores. That is bound to cause either irritation or acne.
Try wearing a hat when you go out instead of applying sunscreen to your face. See if that helps at all.
Also, you really need to treat your skin with the utmost care. It's really delicate and fragile by the sounds of it. Sometimes aggerssive treatment is not the answer.
Are you seeing a dermatologist? |
_________________ 23 yr old, sensitive/ combination/ acne-prone skin. |
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 4:10 pm |
Listen to dear old Dad and let him pay for a course of peels. Wish I'd had that chance when I was your age.
I'm 53 now and until a few months ago (when I started chemical peels) still suffered with occasional outbreaks. My face is totally clear now and the old scars are starting to look so much better. For the first time ever I'm not embarrased to be seen without makeup.
I started with glycolic peels and moved on to Jessners...your doctor may have a different treatment plan for you, but try it!! |
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 4:14 pm |
I think that the advice to wear a hat and forego sunscreen isn't the best route to go. While it is true that some people might have trouble with sunscreen clogging there pores, the vast majority of people can find a sunscreen that doesn't cause acne flair up on their skin.
You can't really wear a hat and see how it goes. You probably won't see the effects of daily sun exposure for 15 or 20 years. The majority of your sun damage comes from daily exposure, not that one time at the beach that you got burned. A hat, while helpful, is not enough to protect your entire face. That protection is vital particularly when you are using treatments such as retin-A, BP and certain antibiotics.
I also agree with abejita that Retin-A should be used over the entire face regularly, not just as a spot treatment. If you are having problems with sensitivity due to the retin-A, try using it every third night, then every other night, with the ultimate goal being every night. |
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 6:15 pm |
I would get your dad to go to the derm with you and discuss both regimens and hear what the derm has to say. The derm will listen to both of you and then whatever the derm decides, your dad will hear and then will follow that advice. |
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:03 pm |
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The only thing that I would comment on is that you say that you spot treat with retin-a. You will not get the full benefits of retin-a by spot treating, that is not how it is meant to be used. Retin-a needs to be used regularly over your entire face, whether or not you currently have acne in that area. Retin a is meant to prevent acne, not necessarily treat spots once they occur, that is why it is som important to use it regularly over your entire face. |
Well, my main break out areas are on my left and right cheek on my face. So i just take a bit and spread it around in that area, so really its not spot treating.
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Also, I wouldn't use retin-a and vitamin C at the same time, as it will increase your chances for irritation. Use your vit C in the morning and retin a in the evening and be sure to use sunscreen. |
Ok. ill try that.
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I know that sunscreen is super important but my dermatologist said that he hasn't seen a sunscreen that doesn't clog pores. |
My sunscreen says wont clog pores
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Are you seeing a dermatologist? |
Yes, he suggested a heavy peeling/benzoyl peroxide plan, whitch the other people from this forum (carekate, crazyskin etc..) said is too aggresive, and i dropped some of the things.
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Listen to dear old Dad and let him pay for a course of peels. |
hes not talking about peels like 100 buck ones, but like regular peels. and he also said things like clearlight (THAT the doctor SUGGESTED) is "just what the medicine does." so..
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I would get your dad to go to the derm with you and discuss both regimens and hear what the derm has to say. The derm will listen to both of you and then whatever the derm decides, your dad will hear and then will follow that advice. |
Read 2 quotes up. |
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Sat Nov 12, 2005 7:54 am |
Toronto_Belle wrote: |
I know that sunscreen is super important but my dermatologist said that he hasn't seen a sunscreen that doesn't clog pores. Sunscreen essentially forms a sheild on your skin to block sun rays, etc from penetrating. This means your sweat is mixing with the sunscreen and its all sitting in your pores. That is bound to cause either irritation or acne.
Try wearing a hat when you go out instead of applying sunscreen to your face. See if that helps at all.
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Sorry, really have to disagree with that. Anyone using Retin A needs to sue SPF every single day. |
_________________ ~normal but prone to dryness~slightly sensitive~usually clear~totm breakouts~mid 20s~ |
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Sat Nov 12, 2005 10:23 am |
What made your father talk about your skin? Did he have problems with his skin? How about your mother?
I saw a dermotologist and he helped me a lot. If your dad is willing to pay...go see a doctor and go from there. |
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Sat Nov 12, 2005 10:47 am |
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Are you seeing a dermatologist?
Yes, he suggested a heavy peeling/benzoyl peroxide plan, whitch the other people from this forum (carekate, crazyskin etc..) said is too aggresive, and i dropped some of the things.
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Listen to dear old Dad and let him pay for a course of peels.
hes not talking about peels like 100 buck ones, but like regular peels. and he also said things like clearlight (THAT the doctor SUGGESTED) is "just what the medicine does." so.. Sad
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I would get your dad to go to the derm with you and discuss both regimens and hear what the derm has to say. The derm will listen to both of you and then whatever the derm decides, your dad will hear and then will follow that advice.
Read 2 quotes up. |
Answer was already posted.
And i dont know, he just came in and said it, my mom is kind of supportive, but, she does agree with the clearlight, but my dad says it is pointless. |
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Sun Nov 13, 2005 2:37 pm |
Where do u live google5? I'm wondering if u really need sunscreen?
Although everyone "in here" are knowledgeable and great at sharing experiences and tips and giving advice - I gather no one has actually met you and seen your skin???
you say your breakouts are mainly concentrated on your cheeks - that's an indication that it is due to hormones... My advice is: go get a second opinion on possible meds and treatment from a new doctor/dermatologist.
take care /R |
_________________ Location: Denmark. Me = 32, think I'm combo without oiliness + sometimes sensitive. Have noticed that skin doesn't heal as quickly anymore and I've developed fine lines around my eyes... Hormonal breakouts which are sometimes cystic. PCOS |
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Sun Nov 13, 2005 5:03 pm |
Hi, I really think you need to see your doctor first. He may do a blood test to check if your hormones are ok, if they are, ask for a referal to a dermotologist or research and find a really good one. I asked to see the dermotoligist that I am seeing now because he treats some people who work for Canadian fashion magazine staff and some other well known Canadians.
If your dad started the subject....maybe your parents talked and thought their is something wrong with you and it was up to your dad to talk to you. Maybe they are afraid that you are taking drugs....and I know you can get very bad acne from taking drugs (I work with Young Offenders). What ever it is...go see your doctor first.
Good luck and please keep us up to date with what is going on. |
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Mon Nov 14, 2005 10:16 am |
I live in the Delmar area of New York. (near albany) and yes there is another young doctor that has his appointments, booked till febuary (thats when my app is.) |
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Mon Nov 14, 2005 5:22 pm |
never had a blood test to check hormones, whitch doctor would i talk to? just my main doctor? |
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Tue Nov 15, 2005 1:55 am |
Yes, your regular doctor should be able to help you with that. |
_________________ Location: Denmark. Me = 32, think I'm combo without oiliness + sometimes sensitive. Have noticed that skin doesn't heal as quickly anymore and I've developed fine lines around my eyes... Hormonal breakouts which are sometimes cystic. PCOS |
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Tue Nov 15, 2005 5:02 am |
ok but isnt it normal for my hormones to be braking out my cheeks when im 15?
But in my region, like no one gets acne cept for a couple kids, like me :\.
I alwaysthink my face is the main flaw people look it, well for some people it probably is, and it lowers my confidence. Mainly before school i try not to look in the mirror :\. |
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Tue Nov 15, 2005 5:43 am |
Hell I'm in my 30's and only just found something that's got my skin under control.
If your hormones are all over the place you may well break out on your cheeks, I know I have.
I find it annoying when those close to us can't be supportive over something that is important to us, like you've said it's started to lower your confidence.
If it's internal eg hormones, whatever you apply to your skin will only be cosmetic. I know plenty of people have found their holy grail of products, some of us it's taken a while longer to find them.
Right now there is only one thing I would recommend if people think their acne/spots are internal that's Acnease. The downside it seems is the expense, although it should be cheaper for you guys.
To treat the skin, I'd recommend the 101E Acne getaway lotion AND/OR Yonk Juvenil. Both are herb or essential oil based and do a great job of clearing the junk from the skin.
Can I ask why you aren't cleansing in the morning? |
_________________ Using. ADCE day & night |
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Tue Nov 15, 2005 7:44 am |
Living in New York, at this time of year, is Sunscreen really necessary? Seems like overkill for your skin and a waste of money.
It is very possible that it isn't helping you with your outbreaks... I'd definitley drop the sunscreen... |
_________________ Location: Denmark. Me = 32, think I'm combo without oiliness + sometimes sensitive. Have noticed that skin doesn't heal as quickly anymore and I've developed fine lines around my eyes... Hormonal breakouts which are sometimes cystic. PCOS |
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Tue Nov 15, 2005 12:40 pm |
i dont cleanse in the morning because i have sensitive skin, and it would probably flare up if i washed it with something.
Ive been on this plan for alil over a month, and been using the DHCC for a little over a week, and i think the DHCC has broken me out more, is this what it is suppose to do? :\
In my family, most of my parents say their skin cleared up in 2nd or 3rd year of hs, im in my first year, so im not sure. |
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Tue Nov 15, 2005 6:21 pm |
I don't suggest accutane and really see your doctor!!!
Don't let someone tell you what medication you should take.
Also, just to share with you, I use
Cetpahil gentle cleanser, it does not cure acne but you can wash with or without water and does not make your skin worse or burn your eyes.
I agree with Sonya Dakar theory, which is putting oil on oil. I use Omega 3 oil on my skin even though my skin is oily. It does not make me break out more, only help balance my oil production.
My doctor told me to eat more fish because the oil/fat in the fish is easier to come out of your pores compared to other oil/fat. I ate more salmon and noticed a huge difference. Over the summer I have been invited to friends cotteges, or BBQ parties and did not realized that I stopped eating salmon over the summer. By late summer/early fall I got some acne again. I was reminded to eat more fish and I did. My skin improved.
Please keep us up to date with your doctor visits and please just listen to your doctor and ask him/her all your questions. |
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Tue Nov 15, 2005 6:25 pm |
Ruth,
It is necessary to wear sunblock all year round. I wear SPF 30 all year long. |
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Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:52 pm |
I had hormonal acne in my late teens and was put on every course of antibiotic there was with no results but constant illness. Because my acne was cystic, I was eventually put on accutane and it saved my skin. It is the only thing that cured my cystic acne, but it is very controversial for boys because some doses can cause depression and suicide. I did not put my own son on it for that reason and the fact that it thins your skin and he played football, but also his acne wasn't that bad. He did have friends that took it with no problems, great results. But you might can consider a low dose or booster dose if your derm recommends it. Again, TALK TO YOUR DOCTOR. He sees your skin so he can make the best call for YOU. We can only make suggestions and it's just going to make you more stressed trying to figure out what to do and following the different schools of thought. |
_________________ Joined the 50 club several years back, blonde w/ fair/sensitive skin, Texas humidity and prone to rosacea, light breakouts and sunburns, combo skin type, starting to see sundamage and fine lines |
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Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:59 pm |
Skincare,
I am not telling anyone they have to take medication, I merely gave my opinion and links to sites where people are dealing with the exact skin issues as google. I have followed his posts from his first entry and if you had been following his posts you would know that he did see a dermatologist (whom by the way suggested accutane) and was put on an antibiotic among topical prescriptions which just about everyone who has responded to his many posts/threads has dismissed or recommended additional products. Now, I find this forum full of wonderful advice, info and recommendations but he is a teenager and this has gotten out of hand. As I suggested from the beginning, he should discuss his treatment with his derm and parents. |
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Tue Nov 15, 2005 11:35 pm |
I have a question for ya...
Do you use a cell phone? Do you use a regular phone a lot?
I want to tell you that I am allergic to my cell phone... I know that is weird but I break out on the left side and right side of my face because when I used my cell it would lay there on the exact place I was breaking out.. I ended up getting one of those hands free ear plugs and lo and behold in a week the breakouts went away.. Just a thought since those are the places you are breaking out and if you have regular ache you usually break out in all areas of your face... But a cell phone sitting against your face... heating it up will break you out in a heart beat...
Just a thought
cheri |
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